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blinkinlights
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high times pf cakes
#10856802 - 08/13/09 11:19 PM (14 years, 7 months ago) |
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i read in high times of this guy growin shrooms he made what i think was pint or half pint jars of pf cakes and when they were ready he cut out the middle with apple core remover thing and filled the hole with wet verm is this a good method cause i was thinking of doing this for future grows
Edited by blinkinlights (08/13/09 11:19 PM)
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TacoHerder
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Some people say it helps keep the cakes hydrated. i dont think you will need to use an apple core remover though. i have seen a vid not to long ago that showed this tek.
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Re: high times pf cakes [Re: TacoHerder]
#10856901 - 08/13/09 11:45 PM (14 years, 7 months ago) |
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Re: high times pf cakes [Re: TacoHerder]
#10857000 - 08/14/09 12:11 AM (14 years, 7 months ago) |
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iam not a cake grower and i usually refrain from any cake giving advice (except i think it's cool you can dunk before the first flush with cakes, unlike with bulk substrates, Sweet!) but i can't see how removing a good proportion of the mycelium and some of the fruitng area is a good idea. i'd love to see otherwise, but that just sounds wrong, at least to me as a bulk sub cultivator.
Sounds more like you need to keep your substrate (cake) hydrated. ~Pixie~
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Re: high times pf cakes [Re: Psuper]
#10857011 - 08/14/09 12:14 AM (14 years, 7 months ago) |
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i think in the vid i saw they didnt take any out, the bottom of the jar is concaved, so when you take the cake out you can just apply the verm on that.
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blinkinlights
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Re: high times pf cakes [Re: TacoHerder]
#10857032 - 08/14/09 12:21 AM (14 years, 7 months ago) |
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TacoHerder said: i think in the vid i saw they didnt take any out, the bottom of the jar is concaved, so when you take the cake out you can just apply the verm on that.
i dont know bout that but i know for shure that the guy in the mag cut holes down the middle and filled it with verm he also had a flooding system installed but it seemed pritty complicated
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nastos
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seems ike people like to make things more complicated than they need to be
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blinkinlights
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Re: high times pf cakes [Re: nastos]
#10857074 - 08/14/09 12:30 AM (14 years, 7 months ago) |
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i probably wont even do it just thought it was a good idea seeing the fruits the guy had
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nastos
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yeah the verm core sounds cool but agree that it would be removing a good portion of myc and food a good dunk and roll should be good enough to keep a cake hydrated.. as for a flooding system... wtf is that?
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blinkinlights
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Re: high times pf cakes [Re: nastos]
#10857124 - 08/14/09 12:39 AM (14 years, 7 months ago) |
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the guy had his cakes in a fish tank with nothing in bottom if i remember correctly and had tubes that would flood the whole chamber and then drain he had a whole room of tanks and it was all compleatly automated pritty smart setup actually but complicated
Edited by blinkinlights (08/14/09 12:39 AM)
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TacoHerder
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O ya, well i stayed at a Holiday Inn last night... so i think we all know who is really smart
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nastos
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funnyQuote:
blinkinlights said: the guy had his cakes in a fish tank with nothing in bottom if i remember correctly and had tubes that would flood the whole chamber and then drain he had a whole room of tanks and it was all compleatly automated pritty smart setup actually but complicated
by flood the whole tank you mean fill it up with water like soak the hole cake?
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Re: high times pf cakes [Re: nastos]
#10858064 - 08/14/09 07:21 AM (14 years, 7 months ago) |
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old outdated method.
www.mushroomvideos.com and watch the 4 pf tek videos.
dunk your cake before each flush including before the first. Roll in verm and mist to hydrate as it dries out during fruiting.
You can also put a spoonfull of verm ontop of the cake to help supply moisture, and also sit the cake in a saucer of water during the flush.
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nastos
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i was gonna say its kinda wierd hightimes would have someone in there with a less than optimal setup
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i've tried coring out a pint cake and filling it with verm, it had the same sized fruits as a 1/4 pint cake w/o a verm core
just my experiance tho
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Re: high times pf cakes [Re: tektonic]
#10858094 - 08/14/09 07:38 AM (14 years, 7 months ago) |
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seems like the process would add more time.. you wait long enough for 100% col. seems like dumb to damage it like tht especial since the mix is already mostly verm anyhow...
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Re: high times pf cakes [Re: nastos]
#10858235 - 08/14/09 08:48 AM (14 years, 7 months ago) |
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I think it was fahtster who posted something similar here. If I'm not mistaken, he takes a sharpie when he makes the cakes, pushes it into the unsterilized brf, and then fills the hole with verm. After that, the cakes are sterilized and inoculated in the normal way. However, with soaking/dunking, such methods are of dubious value. You don't want a constant state moisture content. You want an ebb and flow of substrate moisture content for best results. RR
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blinkinlights
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here's a quote from the actual article "i gazed about the room, superman began to explain how each tier was actually a shallow flood table, angled ever so slightly to allow each 10 gallon tank to drain into reservoirs at the base of the structure"
"with superman actually coring out the center of each cake (with a bong slide stem, i might add) and filling the middle with a column of small vermiculite particles. on a good day superman can pack 600 jars"
turns out this was done before spores were injected, but the guy who wrote that article might be tripping cause it says after that he sterilized after he injected
also the growers record is 23 dry pounds a month
Edited by blinkinlights (08/14/09 11:22 AM)
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nastos
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high times should stick to weed
why would he do 600 cakes a day why wouldnt he do bulk
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blinkinlights
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Re: high times pf cakes [Re: nastos]
#10858727 - 08/14/09 11:50 AM (14 years, 7 months ago) |
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i don't know but the grower did say in the article that his Technique considered old school
Edited by blinkinlights (08/14/09 12:02 PM)
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