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Black light?
    #1085634 - 11/25/02 10:49 PM (14 years, 5 months ago)

I have this little mini floro. It came with a regular and a black light bulb. Its only a 13 watt bulb. Would the black light provide a better spectrum than the cool white floro?


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Re: Black light? [Re: resin]
    #1085672 - 11/25/02 10:59 PM (14 years, 5 months ago)

Using a black light causes mutations. There is a large article about it on the PF website if you are interested.


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Re: Black light? [Re: dog]
    #1085679 - 11/25/02 11:00 PM (14 years, 5 months ago)

That is very interesting... Hmmm... I wonder why...


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Re: Black light? [Re: SixCee]
    #1085694 - 11/25/02 11:05 PM (14 years, 5 months ago)

Thats pretty cool Thanks. I might just give it a try.


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Re: Black light? [Re: resin]
    #1085703 - 11/25/02 11:06 PM (14 years, 5 months ago)

No you dont want to. You'll get freaky freaks man! When they come out you will be wondering if you can eat them or not.


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Re: Black light? [Re: resin]
    #1085831 - 11/25/02 11:43 PM (14 years, 5 months ago)

Using a black light may cause albinoism. As cool as that sounds, many times they do not produce spores, so you can't get a print.


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Re: Black light? [Re: dog]
    #1085834 - 11/25/02 11:43 PM (14 years, 5 months ago)

I call shennigans on PF's claim that Blacklights cause mutations. Shrooms grow outside in THE SUNLIGHT!

Sunlight puts off more UV than any damn blacklight.

In fact, it might help keep some contams at bay.


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Re: Black light? [Re: resin]
    #1085840 - 11/25/02 11:45 PM (14 years, 5 months ago)

Well i wouldnt suggest using a black light, simply because mushroom growth reeacts better to the blue/white spectrum, like natural outdoor light. :smile: 


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Re: Black light? [Re: resin]
    #1085897 - 11/26/02 12:02 AM (14 years, 5 months ago)

Just buy a 13 watt bulb from a store or something, and throw it in there.


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    #1086002 - 11/26/02 12:26 AM (14 years, 5 months ago)



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Re: Black light? [Re: matts]
    #1086119 - 11/26/02 12:59 AM (14 years, 5 months ago)

"....more pinheads are initiated upon exposure to blue and ultra-violent light with distinct peaks at 370 440 and 460 nanometers, in contrat red infa-red and green light having wavelengths greater than 510 nm were ineffective..." per TMC baby :laugh: now just go google the nanometers range and u should find what categor they fall in. if ya too lazy heres ya a link :wink: its google cache but still same info.
[url=http://216.239.51.100/search?q=cache:8NbNhVIOo2AC:www.olympusmicro.com/primer/lightandcolor/sources.html+visible+light+nanometers&hl=en&ie=UTF-8]http://216.239.51.100/search?q=cache:8NbNhVIOo2AC:www.olympusmicro.com/primer/lightandcolor/sources.html+visible+light+nanometers&hl=en&ie=UTF-8[/url]
so i think the 440 and 460 would benefit during primordia development and triggering but i dont know about as far as maturing they might like the other kinda light :/


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Re: Black light? [Re: socratesmind]
    #1088435 - 11/26/02 07:51 PM (14 years, 5 months ago)

Anyone ever looked at a cake thats just been birthed??? Try it, I saw weird green bumps which I think may be developing into the pins... but I'm not too sure...


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Re: Black light? [Re: SixCee]
    #1088516 - 11/26/02 08:34 PM (14 years, 5 months ago)

It causes mutations because it provides enough energy for some atoms in DNA to jump off or rearrange themselves. I forget if it affects the nucleotide bases or the phosphodiester backbone and I can't find my books so trust me on that one. I think, however, that there is confusion about blacklights. The spectrum of light that is harmful to DNA and can cause mutations is around 260nm. There are many ranges of UV light spectrums. Blacklights don't always have this spectrum and germicidal lights have very narrow spectrums thta hover around 260nm. The confusion I think is thinking that blacklights are germicidal or that UV light is only one kind of bulb. Just my 2 cents. here is a link where a similar topic came up my link


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    #1088529 - 11/26/02 08:38 PM (14 years, 5 months ago)



Edited by matts (11/26/02 08:42 PM)


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Re: Black light? [Re: matts]
    #1088842 - 11/26/02 10:45 PM (14 years, 5 months ago)

good info, that was the missing piece to my UV light puzzle. To the guy who was saying that mushrooms grow in the sun and that it has alot of UV, I think it would be necessary, or atleast more probable for a mutant to occur if the mycelia is exposed to UV light that is within the range I specified earlier. The atmosphere blocks alot of it and mycelia in the wild is not exposed to light like a PF cake is. So I think it is easier for that reason to induce a mutant in a PF cake than in the wild. There are also other factors. Consider, the next time you go hunting that it is probably cloudy, rainy or otherwise not a sunny day. Clouds help to block alot of the UV as well as trees and tall grasses. One thing to consider when using UV to fruit is the length of exposure. Stamets references in his book "The Mushroom Cultivator" an experiment where fruiting was induced with stimulation at wavelengths 370, 440, and 460 nm for only half a millisecond a day! He also says that red, infrared and green light with wavelengths greater than 510 nm were ineffective.


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