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KSSS filled Mini Mono tub Doc T style. With classic Monotub side by side comparison Update 8/20
    #10855177 - 08/13/09 07:22 PM (14 years, 8 months ago)

So on 7/7 I inoculated some rye with a MS KSSS print.  The jars were colonized fully on 7/21. The first tub which is a classic style of monotub was made on 7/23. It has 2 and  1/4 qts to 7 quarts sub of ckn poo/coir/compost/coffee.

Tub 1


The second Tub was done per Doc T's mini mono tub shown with Oakridge.
http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/10713572

1/4 inch holes every two inches all sides and the top.
Same 2 and 1/4 qts to 7 qts sub. This one was made on 7/26.

Tub 2


Threw in a pic of my closet. It use to be a fruiting chamber but Now i stack monotubs in it. The tubs I use a re 11 gal monoflo from costco. 3 for $24. Tub 2 was put in 2 trash bags. One slide on from both ends. I opened it up every 3-4 days.  I hadn't checked them in over a week this time and I notice that both are starting to fruit a bit. No exposure to light by the way. Just so people know light is not needed to pin put will help your pin set.
Anyways so I am starting fruiting conditions on both at the same time so I decide to start a comparison thread with some pics. Will keep updated.


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Re: KSSS filled Mini Mono tub Doc T style. With classic Monotub side by side comparison [Re: River77]
    #10855276 - 08/13/09 07:33 PM (14 years, 8 months ago)

If you take the tape off that one hole and put polyfil, you can mist without removing the lid.
Looks good, I'll be excited to see pins!


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Re: KSSS filled Mini Mono tub Doc T style. With classic Monotub side by side comparison [Re: Doc_T]
    #10855388 - 08/13/09 07:49 PM (14 years, 8 months ago)

Great idea!


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Re: KSSS filled Mini Mono tub Doc T style. With classic Monotub side by side comparison [Re: River77]
    #10855471 - 08/13/09 08:03 PM (14 years, 8 months ago)

If you have holes near the top that aren't shown in the pics, they work even better.

That tub is wider than the one I used, I'll be curious to see how the center pins. The block has more surface area for more humidity, but less relative air exchange so less FAE. Tradeoff.


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Re: KSSS filled Mini Mono tub Doc T style. With classic Monotub side by side comparison [Re: Doc_T]
    #10898733 - 08/20/09 04:14 PM (14 years, 7 months ago)

Here is what they look like a week later. Both tubs have several knots on top and some pins on the side.
    Tub one, the mono-tub also has several pins on top. Not that side pins bother me because they don't. I just don't want them to be the only things that form in my tubs.

Tub 1


    Here is Tub 2, the Mini-Tub.  No pins on top, lots of knots though, and more pins on the side then Tub 1.
Tub 2


I have been misting 4-5 times a day. Over night one day both tubs got a little dry on top. Tub 2 a little more then tub 1. I make sure to mist well right before bed now. FAE can not be my problem. My air conditioner is running during the day in the room and I have a fan on low facing away from the tubs as to suck air towards them vs. blow it on them.  I don't have anything to test my RH, but during these months it is around 60-80 in the air itself.  I can't help think that i am having RH problems inside my tubs. A hydrometer is a main priority now.
    The light they get is natural light from a window plus a 4700k 20w fluorescent. I plan on switching it out for a 6500k as soon as I can. Same time as the hydrometer.
    I spawned 2 more tubs last night with the same KSSS. 1 mono-tub and 1 Mini again. This time the sub is coir/steer manure/verm. And I upped the size of my sub to 4qts spawn to 12qts sub. for 16 qts vs. 9. I'll post pic when these as these come along also.


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Re: KSSS filled Mini Mono tub Doc T style. With classic Monotub side by side comparison [Re: River77]
    #10899298 - 08/20/09 06:03 PM (14 years, 7 months ago)

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FAE can not be my problem. My air conditioner is running during the day in the room and I have a fan on low facing away from the tubs as to suck air towards them vs. blow it on them.  I don't have anything to test my RH, but during these months it is around 60-80 in the air itself.  I can't help think that i am having RH problems inside my tubs. A hydrometer is a main priority now.






too much FAE will dry out your subs overnight....I have the same setup (a/c with fan in opposite direction) and I have to turn the fan off at night cuz it dries out the surface too much.   

not saying your doing something wrong just something to keep an eye out for.


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Re: KSSS filled Mini Mono tub Doc T style. With classic Monotub side by side comparison [Re: 13shrooms]
    #10899477 - 08/20/09 06:36 PM (14 years, 7 months ago)

Will take note thanks 13shrooms.


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Re: KSSS filled Mini Mono tub Doc T style. With classic Monotub side by side comparison [Re: River77]
    #10899851 - 08/20/09 07:34 PM (14 years, 7 months ago)

A/C kills your humidity.


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Re: KSSS filled Mini Mono tub Doc T style. With classic Monotub side by side comparison [Re: Doc_T]
    #10900310 - 08/20/09 08:36 PM (14 years, 7 months ago)

I have to have A/C otherwise it get in the upper eighty's. No way around it. Need to get a humidifier I guess.


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Re: KSSS filled Mini Mono tub Doc T style. With classic Monotub side by side comparison [Re: River77]
    #10900328 - 08/20/09 08:38 PM (14 years, 7 months ago)

Or just mist it more. It's worth having all that FAE.


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Re: KSSS filled Mini Mono tub Doc T style. With classic Monotub side by side comparison [Re: River77]
    #10900368 - 08/20/09 08:42 PM (14 years, 7 months ago)

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I have to have A/C otherwise it get in the upper eighty's. No way around it. Need to get a humidifier I guess.




upper 80's isnt much of problem during fruitng. cubensis is tropical.

a/c does reduce your ambient humidity as its a condensor, every notice a/c units dripping water? thts water from the air.

I wouldnt think it be much of a problem with a mono though


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Re: KSSS filled Mini Mono tub Doc T style. With classic Monotub side by side comparison [Re: Doc_T]
    #10900424 - 08/20/09 08:47 PM (14 years, 7 months ago)

I started upping the misting to about 8-10 times a day. The reason I went with more sub on the second batch was hoping to make it easier for water retention. With less misting.


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Re: KSSS filled Mini Mono tub Doc T style. With classic Monotub side by side comparison [Re: veda_sticks]
    #10900445 - 08/20/09 08:49 PM (14 years, 7 months ago)

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upper 80's isnt much of problem during fruitng. cubensis is tropical.




That's 30C. May not be a problem for the mushrooms, but not ideal for people.

Casing layer may be appropriate to your situation. Not on this batch, but try it next time maybe?


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Re: KSSS filled Mini Mono tub Doc T style. With classic Monotub side by side comparison [Re: Doc_T]
    #10900680 - 08/20/09 09:20 PM (14 years, 7 months ago)

keep the a/c where your comfortable and just pack your poly tighter if your loosing humidity.:thumbup:  a mono is self contained and nothing ambient should effect it(besides temps/lights).  you shouldnt have to mist or fan if your poly or what ever filter your using is adjusted correctly.


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Re: KSSS filled Mini Mono tub Doc T style. With classic Monotub side by side comparison [Re: Doc_T]
    #10900977 - 08/20/09 10:01 PM (14 years, 7 months ago)

I was thinking casing also. Already got some verm.


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Re: KSSS filled Mini Mono tub Doc T style. With classic Monotub side by side comparison [Re: River77]
    #10901094 - 08/20/09 10:17 PM (14 years, 7 months ago)

you dont need a casing layer, i think its a waste of your time. If you want to learn how a casing can contam ur bulk substrate for the first time goo for it by all means... :lol:

bulk doesnt need a casing layer.
by bulk i mean bulk. If your doing a shoebox sized tub then case it.... thats less than  1 lb of substrate. You go above 1 lb... your sub should hold enough mositure for atleast 2 solid flushes... you dont need more than that anyways...


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Re: KSSS filled Mini Mono tub Doc T style. With classic Monotub side by side comparison [Re: Shr00mZ]
    #11650349 - 12/14/09 05:34 PM (14 years, 4 months ago)

RIVER!!!!

i wanna see some pictures of these mini's

i just bought 3 20qt

just drilled holes today after full colonization, and...i think ive lost all humidity :lol:

is anyone having to tape holes?

theyre gonna look SOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO pretty if they fruit well.

one of them happens to be KSSS :grin:


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Re: KSSS filled Mini Mono tub Doc T style. With classic Monotub side by side comparison [Re: just me]
    #11650537 - 12/14/09 06:08 PM (14 years, 4 months ago)

Don't tape- mist more! FAE is crucial, if you tape up holes you are just preventing that.


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Re: KSSS filled Mini Mono tub Doc T style. With classic Monotub side by side comparison Update 8/20 [Re: River77]
    #11850745 - 01/18/10 12:29 AM (14 years, 2 months ago)

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Re: KSSS filled Mini Mono tub Doc T style. With classic Monotub side by side comparison Update 8/20 [Re: backflame]
    #11850904 - 01/18/10 01:20 AM (14 years, 2 months ago)

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Re: KSSS filled Mini Mono tub Doc T style. With classic Monotub side by side comparison Update 8/20 [Re: River77]
    #20117979 - 06/12/14 04:46 AM (9 years, 10 months ago)

i really like this thread

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Re: KSSS filled Mini Mono tub Doc T style. With classic Monotub side by side comparison Update 8/20 [Re: flyingfurther]
    #20118147 - 06/12/14 06:35 AM (9 years, 10 months ago)

Jesus fucking Christ.  Stop bumping old threads


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