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Feds Raid 2 Local Marijuana Dispensaries, Arrest Owner [CA]
    #10850378 - 08/13/09 01:05 AM (14 years, 9 months ago)

Despite U.S. Attorney General Eric Holder's statement to end the raids on medical cannabis facilities, they still continue...

Feds Raid 2 Local Marijuana Dispensaries, Arrest Owner
August 12, 2009 - ktla.com

LOS ANGELES - Federal and local agents raided two marijuana dispensaries in Los Angeles and arrested to owner.

Officials say more than 20 people from various agencies served a state search warrant Wednesday at the Organica Collective in Culver City, the Overland Gardens Collective in West Los Angeles and a private residence.

Drug Enforcement Administration Spokesman Jose Martinez says agents seized about 100 pounds of marijuana, about 200 live plants and about $100,000 in cash.

The owner of the dispensaries, 50 year old Jeffrey Joseph, was arrested at this home in Topanga Canyon.

Agents shot a pit bull during the raid, according to Martinez, but it was expected to survive.

The Drug Enforcement Administration, Federal Bureau of Investigation, Internal Revenue Service, Los Angeles County Sheriff's Department, Los Angeles Police Department, Torrance Police Department and Culver City Police Department took part in the raids.

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Re: Feds Raid 2 Local Marijuana Dispensaries, Arrest Owner [Re: veggie]
    #10850401 - 08/13/09 01:10 AM (14 years, 9 months ago)

They've attributed a number of past raids to side deals taking place to dump extra medicine, but it doesn't seem - at least on the surface - that this is what happened here.  Is that the reason for the raid on a 'private residence'?


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Re: Feds Raid 2 Local Marijuana Dispensaries, Arrest Owner [Re: ThirdParty]
    #10850587 - 08/13/09 01:49 AM (14 years, 9 months ago)

I imagine they'd need to come up with some kind of story considering just how many dispensaries besides these 2 are in LA...

Do they actually believe they're making progress in the "war on drugs" by continuing this? :smirk:
They must really not have anything better to do...



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Re: Feds Raid 2 Local Marijuana Dispensaries, Arrest Owner [Re: ThirdParty]
    #10850671 - 08/13/09 02:12 AM (14 years, 9 months ago)

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They've attributed a number of past raids to side deals taking place to dump extra medicine, but it doesn't seem - at least on the surface - that this is what happened here.




I imagine that is the official reason even if there is no evidence.. if I owned one of those places that would be a definite no no, you have to question why only 2 of them were raided, seems to me they've got to have some information about those 2 running wild

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Re: Feds Raid 2 Local Marijuana Dispensaries, Arrest Owner [Re: DAVID_ALLAN_CEO]
    #10851065 - 08/13/09 06:13 AM (14 years, 9 months ago)

awww...poor pit :frown:


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Re: Feds Raid 2 Local Marijuana Dispensaries, Arrest Owner [CA] [Re: veggie]
    #10851167 - 08/13/09 07:10 AM (14 years, 9 months ago)

may i ask why the fuck there are raids on dispensaries? they are completely legal as far as my knowledge goes. why dont these losers go and get rid of the real problem and go and raid a fuckin bottle'o? pigs...


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Re: Feds Raid 2 Local Marijuana Dispensaries, Arrest Owner [Re: rockNrave]
    #10851176 - 08/13/09 07:14 AM (14 years, 9 months ago)

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awww...poor pit :frown:




I bet it was running away from the cops too


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Re: Feds Raid 2 Local Marijuana Dispensaries, Arrest Owner [CA] [Re: Lucas89]
    #10851426 - 08/13/09 08:35 AM (14 years, 9 months ago)

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may i ask why the fuck there are raids on dispensaries? they are completely legal as far as my knowledge goes. why dont these losers go and get rid of the real problem and go and raid a fuckin bottle'o? pigs...





it has to do with the difference between state/local and federal laws. dispensaries are legal under California state law, but illegal under federal law.
but i do remember reading an article (i think it was posted on shroomery too) that the dea/feds weren't going to continue to bust dispensaries and were going to focus on hard drug dealers. i guess that's not happening.


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Re: Feds Raid 2 Local Marijuana Dispensaries, Arrest Owner [CA] [Re: istandalone]
    #10851602 - 08/13/09 09:33 AM (14 years, 9 months ago)

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may i ask why the fuck there are raids on dispensaries? they are completely legal as far as my knowledge goes. why dont these losers go and get rid of the real problem and go and raid a fuckin bottle'o? pigs...





it has to do with the difference between state/local and federal laws. dispensaries are legal under California state law, but illegal under federal law.
but i do remember reading an article (i think it was posted on shroomery too) that the dea/feds weren't going to continue to bust dispensaries and were going to focus on hard drug dealers. i guess that's not happening.




But then why were local agents present to help with the raid. I would figure if it was federal law being violated and not state then the feds. would be the only ones involved. Idk, sucks either way.


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Re: Feds Raid 2 Local Marijuana Dispensaries, Arrest Owner [CA] [Re: veggie]
    #10851629 - 08/13/09 09:46 AM (14 years, 9 months ago)

> But then why were local agents present to help with the raid.

Because pigs are pack animals by nature.  They like to stick together.

> Despite U.S. Attorney General Eric Holder's statement to end the raids on medical cannabis facilities, they still continue...

"My attitude is if the science and the doctors suggest that the best palliative care and the way to relieve pain and suffering is medical marijuana, then that’s something I’m open to." -Obama

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Re: Feds Raid 2 Local Marijuana Dispensaries, Arrest Owner [Re: Green_T]
    #10851661 - 08/13/09 09:55 AM (14 years, 9 months ago)

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awww...poor pit :frown:




I bet it was running away from the cops too



ive never known a pit to run from anything. its to bad they shot it though. even after a bullet i doubt a pit would stop attacking.


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Re: Feds Raid 2 Local Marijuana Dispensaries, Arrest Owner [Re: WorldWideWInton]
    #10851716 - 08/13/09 10:13 AM (14 years, 9 months ago)

"Because pigs are pack animals by nature.  They like to stick together"

QFT!! that's likely the statement of the day right there. fucking pigs.
if i was the owner of that dog, i'd send the vet bill to the DEA and demand they pay up.


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Re: Feds Raid 2 Local Marijuana Dispensaries, Arrest Owner [Re: istandalone]
    #10851759 - 08/13/09 10:23 AM (14 years, 9 months ago)

Jesus christ. I thought we mostly got over this shit? I'm going to contact my lawyer and find out WTF is going on down in California, I'll tell you guys if I hear anything interesting.

I hope they don't try this shit with my dispensary.

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Re: Feds Raid 2 Local Marijuana Dispensaries, Arrest Owner [Re: coloradocannabis]
    #10851835 - 08/13/09 10:38 AM (14 years, 9 months ago)

No information yet.

Just so you guys are aware: Federally, you don't want to break 99 plants. If the same owner was responsible for both dispensaries and wasn't delegating plants and medicine to company employees it is very likely he just became too big of a target. I HOPE.

If this shit doesn't stop I should be allowed to retract my vote.

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Re: Feds Raid 2 Local Marijuana Dispensaries, Arrest Owner [CA] [Re: istandalone]
    #10851879 - 08/13/09 10:49 AM (14 years, 9 months ago)

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may i ask why the fuck there are raids on dispensaries? they are completely legal as far as my knowledge goes. why dont these losers go and get rid of the real problem and go and raid a fuckin bottle'o? pigs...





it has to do with the difference between state/local and federal laws. dispensaries are legal under California state law, but illegal under federal law.
but i do remember reading an article (i think it was posted on shroomery too) that the dea/feds weren't going to continue to bust dispensaries and were going to focus on hard drug dealers. i guess that's not happening.





er, the real story is that the feds wont be going after those wh dont violate state law anymore, in this case it might be like the other guy said, doing side deals or some violation of the law.

I still think its stupid, at the same time it sort of hurts the movement as a whole if people are being greedy or not following the laws that are in place because it sends a message that "potheads" cant even follow laws when these are legal.

think of it as if the ATF raided a distillery because they where doing backdoor deals to get around taxes. same kinda thing.


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Re: Feds Raid 2 Local Marijuana Dispensaries, Arrest Owner [CA] [Re: Cannabischarlie]
    #10852154 - 08/13/09 11:47 AM (14 years, 9 months ago)

Organica collective was raided last year. They have probably kept tabs on them and the owner. As far as state police working with the Feds to raid dispensaries operating under state law, that's illegal. Who's gonna listen to the law when there are vigilantes like the LAPD running around.


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Re: Feds Raid 2 Local Marijuana Dispensaries, Arrest Owner [CA] [Re: Dr.Myco87]
    #10852449 - 08/13/09 12:43 PM (14 years, 9 months ago)

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may i ask why the fuck there are raids on dispensaries? they are completely legal as far as my knowledge goes. why dont these losers go and get rid of the real problem and go and raid a fuckin bottle'o? pigs...





it has to do with the difference between state/local and federal laws. dispensaries are legal under California state law, but illegal under federal law.
but i do remember reading an article (i think it was posted on shroomery too) that the dea/feds weren't going to continue to bust dispensaries and were going to focus on hard drug dealers. i guess that's not happening.




But then why were local agents present to help with the raid. I would figure if it was federal law being violated and not state then the feds. would be the only ones involved. Idk, sucks either way.




i believe this reinforces what ive thought for quite awhile now, i remember watching that national geographic documentary, marijuana inc. i think? anyway i remeber saying why the fuck are these bastards able to grow,distribute and sell weed without prosecution from the federal govt? at least some was and some were being busted. but since then the govt has officially announced to stop the raids and now this.

it because somebody isnt paying the right people! money makes the world go round and it keeps the police off your ass if you pay enough. thats how some dispenceries were able to get by while others got busted. they payed the right people! just my 2 cents


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Re: Feds Raid 2 Local Marijuana Dispensaries, Arrest Owner [CA] [Re: zenman223]
    #10852460 - 08/13/09 12:45 PM (14 years, 9 months ago)

More change we can believe in I guess.

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Re: Feds Raid 2 Local Marijuana Dispensaries, Arrest Owner [CA] [Re: caphillkid]
    #10852497 - 08/13/09 12:49 PM (14 years, 9 months ago)

well i can see this from a 1st point of view.

I have been to Organica, and i can easily seen it coming that they were going to be raided. I dont have a card, neither did my friend (actually it expired but they didnt care) we got buds from them a handfull of times, and each time it just seemed like they werent being managed at all. I would be seeing a few people onthe roof watering there plants, a funny black guy that let anyone it, and a hot cashier.

so im not suprised, but it still sucks donkey dick


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Re: Feds Raid 2 Local Marijuana Dispensaries, Arrest Owner [CA] [Re: j0nnyb0y05]
    #10854766 - 08/13/09 06:15 PM (14 years, 9 months ago)

Well the IRS was in on it. And they seized $100,000 cash. It's pretty obvious these guys weren't doin it all by the book.


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Re: Feds Raid 2 Local Marijuana Dispensaries, Arrest Owner [CA] [Re: FractalDust]
    #10854848 - 08/13/09 06:27 PM (14 years, 9 months ago)

Dont be mislead by all of the side story bullshit, people are  missing the point. The attorney general either went back on his word or lied and this administration and the democrats are doing nothing to stop the drug war.


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Re: Feds Raid 2 Local Marijuana Dispensaries, Arrest Owner [CA] [Re: dondoodle]
    #10855189 - 08/13/09 07:24 PM (14 years, 9 months ago)

its pretty stupid to have mature plants at any dispensary...its one thing to stop a collective thats helping the sick and operating under california laws...i dont agree that medical marijuana should be regulated, but i also think its careless to openly admit patients that dont even have credentials(paper printout of prescription or state id card)...especially in LA where the feds are in high abundance and are focused on low priority crime(they should be looking for the little boy that was abducted 5 miles away from my house a couple days ago.)


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Re: Feds Raid 2 Local Marijuana Dispensaries, Arrest Owner [CA] [Re: burtonRebel]
    #10855223 - 08/13/09 07:27 PM (14 years, 9 months ago)

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its pretty stupid to have mature plants at any dispensary...




Where did it say they had mature plants at the dispensary?


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    #10856123 - 08/13/09 09:46 PM (14 years, 9 months ago)

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its pretty stupid to have mature plants at any dispensary...its one thing to stop a collective thats helping the sick and operating under california laws...i dont agree that medical marijuana should be regulated, but i also think its careless to openly admit patients that dont even have credentials(paper printout of prescription or state id card)...especially in LA where the feds are in high abundance and are focused on low priority crime(they should be looking for the little boy that was abducted 5 miles away from my house a couple days ago.)



Having plants is not illegal and they never admitted people without papers


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    #10856180 - 08/13/09 09:55 PM (14 years, 9 months ago)

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Having plants is not illegal and they never admitted people without papers




What about Johnnyboy?

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I have been to Organica, and i can easily seen it coming that they were going to be raided. I dont have a card, neither did my friend (actually it expired but they didnt care) we got buds from them a handfull of times




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Re: Feds Raid 2 Local Marijuana Dispensaries, Arrest Owner [CA] [Re: FractalDust]
    #10857084 - 08/14/09 12:31 AM (14 years, 9 months ago)

I don't know if I can believe him but when I went they carded me.


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Re: Feds Raid 2 Local Marijuana Dispensaries, Arrest Owner [CA] [Re: j0nnyb0y05]
    #10857304 - 08/14/09 01:15 AM (14 years, 9 months ago)

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well i can see this from a 1st point of view.

I have been to Organica, and i can easily seen it coming that they were going to be raided. I dont have a card, neither did my friend (actually it expired but they didnt care) we got buds from them a handfull of times, and each time it just seemed like they werent being managed at all. I would be seeing a few people onthe roof watering there plantsa funny black guy that let anyone it, and a hot cashier.

so im not suprised, but it still sucks donkey dick





i assumed they were growing them full cycle. some places only supply clones. some grow on premisis which is illegal.


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    #10857325 - 08/14/09 01:18 AM (14 years, 9 months ago)

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I don't know if I can believe him but when I went they carded me.



i would believe it. there are some pretty sketchy places in LA... there are shady dispensaries wherever there are legit ones.


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Re: Feds Raid 2 Local Marijuana Dispensaries, Arrest Owner [CA] [Re: istandalone]
    #10857541 - 08/14/09 02:14 AM (14 years, 9 months ago)

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it has to do with the difference between state/local and federal laws. dispensaries are legal under California state law, but illegal under federal law.
but i do remember reading an article (i think it was posted on shroomery too) that the dea/feds weren't going to continue to bust dispensaries and were going to focus on hard drug dealers. i guess that's not happening.




meh... federal schmederal! the dea can clean out my colon with its/their big ugly face :gethigh:


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Re: Feds Raid 2 Local Marijuana Dispensaries, Arrest Owner [CA] [Re: Lucas89]
    #10918263 - 08/23/09 06:53 AM (14 years, 8 months ago)

They probably violated some state laws regarding MMJ


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