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Birdseed mix
    #1084888 - 11/25/02 06:03 PM (14 years, 11 days ago)

Can i use this as substrate, it contains other things besides plain millet.

Is this fine, or do I need 100% millet only?


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Re: Birdseed mix [Re: tekramrepus]
    #1084898 - 11/25/02 06:09 PM (14 years, 11 days ago)

Should be alright, what brand is it?


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Re: Birdseed mix [Re: tekramrepus]
    #1084925 - 11/25/02 06:26 PM (14 years, 11 days ago)

A mix is fine........... :wink:.................

6T WBS Tek (Wild Bird Seed) Bulk Spawn Preparation Method.

WBS consists primarily of white millet. It is often a combination of white & red millet & milo,  with a small percentage of sunflower seeds and sometimes tiny amounts of crushed corn. Some expensive brands are coated with a fungicide. For use as spawn material, treated WBS is not advisable.

You can find untreated WBS in 5 -10 & 20 pound bags, at low prices at most large chain grocery stores, or chain type pet supply stores. For instance, PetsMart has 40 pound bags for around $9.

Simply place whatever quantity you intend to use in a plastic pot, tub or bucket. Bear in mind, dry seed will expand about 20 to 25% - after it absorbs its capacity of water. Add tap water & soak the seed overnight. A 8 to 12 hour soak is fine. Seed soaked longer will begin to ferment. But, is still usable after soaking 24 to 36 hours.

There is no need to remove any floating husks, or sunflower seeds. These add lignin ( a good thing) & do not harbor any more possible contams than does the millet. It is all going to get thoroughly sterilized - anyway.

Once soaked, simply rinse the seed very thoroughly in a colander, or strainer. Then allow it to drain - WELL. As in 30 or more minutes. If it is drips - one drop. It is not drained - WELL.

Load pint or quart jars ? full, apply internal filter disk, material, polyfil or whatever method you use allow gas exchange through a ? or 3/8 inch hole in the lid. Screw lid on tight & back it off ? turn. Place a double layer of paper coffee filters over the lid & jar top, held down by a thick rubber band. Place the jars in the PC.

PC at 15 pounds for a full 60 minutes. 90 minutes is better, if you have the time. Allow the PC pressure to drop to zero & let it cool a bit. Open while still hot & remove jars. The paper coffee filters will dry almost instantly, when the PC is opened. Tighten lids (if necessary), shake jars to insure there are no clumps of seed inside. Place jars inside the oven on a rack, to cool, overnight. External coffee filters simply add another layer of protection to the jars content.

Once cooled to room temperature, store in a clean cardboard box - until used. Using them sooner than later is preferable. Note: This method was done in an All American PC. Some brands require more internal water & it may be advisable to also cover the coffee filters with tin foil- while PC'ing, so no excess boiling water gains entry into the jars. Simply remove the tinfoil when you remove the jars from the PC.

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Re: Birdseed mix [Re: SixTango]
    #1084946 - 11/25/02 06:36 PM (14 years, 11 days ago)

Let me just make sure this mix is okay by posting the ingediants:

7.5 pounds bag called "FINCH SELECT"

contains:

Golden Millet, Red Millet, Sunflower Chips, White Millet, Canary Seed, Nyjer Seed, and Hulled MIllet


sound find guys?


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Re: Birdseed mix [Re: tekramrepus]
    #1085030 - 11/25/02 07:13 PM (14 years, 11 days ago)

Sounds fine. Case it with coir, or coir with oyster shell. Both from the pet store.


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Re: Birdseed mix [Re: On_the_Down-Low]
    #1085032 - 11/25/02 07:14 PM (14 years, 11 days ago)

Don't case it, spawn it with poo or straw.


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Re: Birdseed mix [Re: cheifdog24]
    #1085109 - 11/25/02 07:36 PM (14 years, 11 days ago)

He never asked about spawning. He asked about using it for substrate.

one of my fav pics. just happens to be Anno's birdseed cased with coir.



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Re: Birdseed mix [Re: On_the_Down-Low]
    #1085139 - 11/25/02 07:46 PM (14 years, 11 days ago)

In reply to:

He never asked about spawning. He asked about using it for substrate.




I know, but he didn't ask about casing it either, besides, when you spawn it, it (birdseed in the jars) is still substrate, you just add it to more substrate (poo or straw). I love that pic as well, but I've heard that birdseed tends to dry out very easily when cased.


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Re: Birdseed mix [Re: cheifdog24]
    #1085179 - 11/25/02 08:02 PM (14 years, 11 days ago)

i mix my birdseed 1:1 with moist vermiculite prior to casing. Moisture problems solved.


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Re: Birdseed mix [Re: cheifdog24]
    #1085364 - 11/25/02 09:15 PM (14 years, 11 days ago)

I would think that once you used it as spawn, that would make it,ummm...spawn.


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Re: Birdseed mix [Re: On_the_Down-Low]
    #1085370 - 11/25/02 09:18 PM (14 years, 11 days ago)

What do you think spawn is, and the poo that you spawn it into? Its all substrate because the mycelium "feeds" off of it.


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Re: Birdseed mix [Re: cheifdog24]
    #1086832 - 11/26/02 07:06 AM (14 years, 10 days ago)

substrate is ....?
spawn is.....?

someone experienced please give me an overview. okay flame me, I don't care.


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Re: Birdseed mix [Re: shirley knott]
    #1086837 - 11/26/02 07:09 AM (14 years, 10 days ago)



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