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Bad combo or something more?
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A few weeks ago, I was out of town so my buddy invited another friend over to his place to have some fun with mushrooms. He has know his friend for years and has done a lot of different "drugs" with him in moderation at some point.
Anyways, apparently before they ate their mushrooms, they each did 2, 2" lines and had smoked some marijuana. then they mixed 2 grams (grinded) with chocolate (as always) and ate up. Everything was apparently the same as always as far as the trip came up fast and lasted for hours then slowly went away.
I was told when he left, the problem happened. He walked down my buddies stairs (6 or so steps) and forgot something, ran back up to get it, and when he came down he felt a little light headed. he sat down on the stairs while my buddy took a leak behind a bush. When he turned around his friend was laying across 3 or 4 steps. My buddy said that he didn't see his chest moving and didn't feel his breath. So he breathed 1 breath into him and he breathed deeply real quick and clutched his chest and slowly came to.
After he helped him inside, he drank some water because he was white apparently, and he was sweating. After 2 or 3 glasses, I guess he felt better. He wound up staying the night just in case.

Now does anyone have any info on the mixing of drugs or what may have happened? I suggested maybe dehydration because of how the water helped in the end, but to stop breathing from dehydration I haven't heard of. They also said they weren't outside in the heat or doing much of anything and had a few sodas during the trip.

So the only thing I could think of was the addition of the lines. That amount is probably a 20th of what they've done together before over the span of several hours though, so I didn't know if that was a problem.

If anyone has anything to suggest, or similar stories, please let us know.


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Re: Bad combo or something more? [Re: Setsero_63t]
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are you sure he wasn't breathing? im no doctor but, that would mean that he was dead i think...

i have passed out on mushrooms before and have seen it happen also, Sometimes people feel a little odd, then they just pass out and hit the deck from mushrooms. i am not sure why this happens, i started a thread about passing out from them a long time ago cause it scared the shit out of me too.

Im not sure what happened to your friend, is he doing fine and feeling normal now?


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Re: Bad combo or something more? [Re: SummerDaisies]
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As far as I know he was feeling fine the next night. I'm sort of glad I wasn't there or else I'd be freaked out. I've never heard of someone having strong physical problems from mushrooms (like not breathing) before.
Also, my buddy is not a doctor, but he said he didn't see his chest moving and didn't feel anything from his mouth/nose.


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Re: Bad combo or something more? [Re: Setsero_63t]
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did he have a pulse?


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Re: Bad combo or something more? [Re: SummerDaisies]
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The person probably just fainted. If they had lost a pulse and stopped breathing they would have required to phone an ambulance because CPR rarely restarts the heart, which it sounds like what your other friend was doing.

Its hard to say really, for some reason I believe not many of us are doctors :P and even if some of us were, we wouldn't be able to checkup the guy over the internet to find out the problem.

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Re: Bad combo or something more? [Re: Denebola]
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the vast majority of mushroom experiences like these that I personally have come across, include chocolate...I've never found any info that says this is a bad combo but i have noticed a trend


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Re: Bad combo or something more? [Re: the bizzle]
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your doctor friend prolly could not tell if he was breathing because he was trippin on mushrooms, and your friend was just passed out. When they locked lips that was prolly enough to wake him up.

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Re: Bad combo or something more? [Re: the bizzle]
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the bizzle said:
the vast majority of mushroom experiences like these that I personally have come across, include chocolate...I've never found any info that says this is a bad combo but i have noticed a trend



mild MAOI.

i have seen it from that or from fasting.

and yeah the dude just tried to play it off like he wasn't trying to kiss his friend.


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Re: Bad combo or something more? [Re: the bizzle]
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There are a lot of things at work in this situation, pinpointing the exact cause is probably only speculatory...  For example, it could have been one of the four drugs he had just consumed (shrooms, marijuana, cocaine, or chocolate(caffeine and theobromine).  Or it could have been a synergistic effect of all or some of the above.  My best guess would be the later, some vaso-affect of the combination but the big culprit in this case is the forgetting something and charging up and down the stairs.  It is fairly common when sober to experience dizziness and possibly even fainting due to brief, intense excursions after periods of rest (especially sitting and quickly getting up and attempting to do something).  I think this could have been alleviated by taking things a little slower, letting the body recover after such an extensive somatic workout.  That being said, I wouldn't be too overly concerned, his body was probably going through the reseting process after a faint when circulatory and respiratory systems go through reboot.  It was good that your friends were there to help him out, but I think the only real danger was head trauma due to the fall.  I doubt he would have stopped breathing entirely, maybe only for a moment, because I don't believe one breath would do enough to completely reset his system.  Just my opinion though.

Also just my opinion: perhaps you should carefully weigh the potential consequences of putting 4+ drugs into your body in a single session.  It is very difficult to figure where serious problems will arise when synergistic and antagonist effects of various drugs are in play...  But its your body  :laugh:

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Re: Bad combo or something more? [Re: Fikus]
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SummerDaisies said:
did he have a pulse?



Have no Idea, he just said he didn't feel him breathing.
the bizzle said:
the vast majority of mushroom experiences like these that I personally have come across, include chocolate...I've never found any info that says this is a bad combo but i have noticed a trend



That's pretty interesting. I've never known a great deal of people who take mushrooms, so that's new to me.
alphasnail said:
your doctor friend prolly could not tell if he was breathing because he was trippin on mushrooms, and your friend was just passed out. When they locked lips that was prolly enough to wake him up.



Although hilarious, yea some remaining effects (body high) might have been still around. No one leaves and gets in a car during tripping though. That's just stupid.

Fikus said:
There are a lot of things at work in this situation, pinpointing the exact cause is probably only speculatory...  For example, it could have been one of the four drugs he had just consumed (shrooms, marijuana, cocaine, or chocolate(caffeine and theobromine).  Or it could have been a synergistic effect of all or some of the above.  My best guess would be the later, some vaso-affect of the combination but the big culprit in this case is the forgetting something and charging up and down the stairs.  It is fairly common when sober to experience dizziness and possibly even fainting due to brief, intense excursions after periods of rest (especially sitting and quickly getting up and attempting to do something).  I think this could have been alleviated by taking things a little slower, letting the body recover after such an extensive somatic workout.  That being said, I wouldn't be too overly concerned, his body was probably going through the reseting process after a faint when circulatory and respiratory systems go through reboot.  It was good that your friends were there to help him out, but I think the only real danger was head trauma due to the fall.  I doubt he would have stopped breathing entirely, maybe only for a moment, because I don't believe one breath would do enough to completely reset his system.  Just my opinion though.

Also just my opinion: perhaps you should carefully weigh the potential consequences of putting 4+ drugs into your body in a single session.  It is very difficult to figure where serious problems will arise when synergistic and antagonist effects of various drugs are in play...  But its your body  :laugh:



That's what I was speculating at, but wasn't sure. The combination of things at one time was probably not too smart, even in the low doses since your not sure how they will all get along with each other in each person.

I appreciate the replies. I don't want to exclude a friend from having fun. I'm thinking next time we'll just cut it back a bit and not involve any extra variables, and we'll see how it goes.


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Re: Bad combo or something more? [Re: Fikus]
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I sometimes faint after long periods being lethargic and standing up quick, so add shrooms, coke, weed, chocolate, and the minimum of 6 hours of fasting, and well, Duh! Stop worrying people...

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Re: Bad combo or something more? [Re: Setsero_63t]
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Setsero_63t said:
That's pretty interesting. I've never known a great deal of people who take mushrooms, so that's new to me.



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Re: Bad combo or something more? [Re: silosighbin]
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From what I have learned in collage in the drug $ alchooool program he about blew his heart. His body went into almost a hibernation tryn to combat the mix of things. Always drink plenty of fluid before enjoyin these fine fruits n veggies and make sure you got some one with you. If you are goin to be putting so many diffrent chemicals in your body make sure u got a buddy to be there for you.

And like fikus had said him running up n down the stairs could have jump started his ass like stickn your finger in a light socket. When my friend and I used to make meth after I would get done making a batch I would go n scrape some off the glass and go wake him up with a nice long line. He would immediatly JUMP up and Book it up my stairs. He would get light headed but what can ya expect?

Edited by elemental420 (08/12/09 12:17 PM)

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