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Re: Newbie modified poor man's pod (indoor/outdoor) [Re: nastos]
    #10837744 - 08/11/09 03:37 AM (14 years, 7 months ago)

In order for it to work you need to keep mid 70's temp. 99%rh. good light,and very good fae as thats the #1 pinning trigger. you really shoulnt even need the heater, thats old and outdated tek. think that heater is going to keep your bulk sub around 75? meaning your external temp really needs to be lower then 75 since the bulk sub will produce heat itself.


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Re: Newbie modified poor man's pod (indoor/outdoor) [Re: nastos]
    #10837746 - 08/11/09 03:38 AM (14 years, 7 months ago)

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nice edit on the first post




yea i keep updating wat i forgot to add

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Re: Newbie modified poor man's pod (indoor/outdoor) [Re: CaliforniaLove]
    #10837751 - 08/11/09 03:40 AM (14 years, 7 months ago)

so your going to maintain a mid to lower 70's temp right? even though your using a heater...


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Re: Newbie modified poor man's pod (indoor/outdoor) [Re: TacoHerder]
    #10837755 - 08/11/09 03:43 AM (14 years, 7 months ago)

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TacoHerder said:
so your going to maintain a mid to lower 70's temp right? even though your using a heater...




yes until fruiting then 86 for they are cubensis

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Re: Newbie modified poor man's pod (indoor/outdoor) [Re: CaliforniaLove]
    #10837758 - 08/11/09 03:44 AM (14 years, 7 months ago)

I pretty sure a temp drop causes pinning not increase


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Re: Newbie modified poor man's pod (indoor/outdoor) [Re: newtogrowing]
    #10837764 - 08/11/09 03:48 AM (14 years, 7 months ago)

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I pretty sure a temp drop causes pinning not increase




I was reading here and got the temps...

http://www.shroomery.org/5133/10-tips-for-Newbie-Growers

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Re: Newbie modified poor man's pod (indoor/outdoor) [Re: CaliforniaLove]
    #10837767 - 08/11/09 03:49 AM (14 years, 7 months ago)

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TacoHerder said:
so your going to maintain a mid to lower 70's temp right? even though your using a heater...




yes until fruiting then 86 for they are cubensis




see dude thats all wrong. LEARN YOUR HOBBY FIRST.. ideal temp is from 74 to 81. At 83 grow rate slows down and your risk for contams are raised a shit load. At 91 mycl starts to die. So if your temp is set to say 86, that means the internal temp is more like 90 degrees. which is bad.


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Re: Newbie modified poor man's pod (indoor/outdoor) [Re: CaliforniaLove]
    #10837774 - 08/11/09 03:50 AM (14 years, 7 months ago)

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newtogrowing said:
I pretty sure a temp drop causes pinning not increase




I was reading here and got the temps...

http://www.shroomery.org/5133/10-tips-for-Newbie-Growers





read the date on that thing, its from 06. outdated and  misinformed.


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Re: Newbie modified poor man's pod (indoor/outdoor) [Re: TacoHerder]
    #10837775 - 08/11/09 03:51 AM (14 years, 7 months ago)

go type in all RR's notes. and read it ALL


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Re: Newbie modified poor man's pod (indoor/outdoor) [Re: CaliforniaLove]
    #10837779 - 08/11/09 03:52 AM (14 years, 7 months ago)

yea i hear ya,

i read wat you were saying here:
http://www.shroomery.org/8485/How-do-I-initiate-pinning-on-a-casing

but thats even older haha

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Re: Newbie modified poor man's pod (indoor/outdoor) [Re: TacoHerder]
    #10837781 - 08/11/09 03:52 AM (14 years, 7 months ago)



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Re: Newbie modified poor man's pod (indoor/outdoor) [Re: TacoHerder]
    #10837783 - 08/11/09 03:54 AM (14 years, 7 months ago)

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  *And I've been trying to correct that disinformation for years. It's all based on a chart somebody mailed to stamets many years ago showing 86F to be the peak temperature for growth of cubensis on a petri dish, and everybody just accepts it as though Moses carried it down from the mountain on a tablet of stone. However, every single experiment I did to try to duplicate that with extremely accurate temperature monitoring was unable to verify that bogus 86F figure. What I have repeatedly found regardless of strain is that cubensis colonization remains rather flat from about 75F through 81F. Beginning at 83F, the rate of growth falls off sharply. By 86F, growth has slowed down nearly 50% what it was between 75f and 81F. These experiments were conducted on petri dishes that produce little to no heat because of the very thin layer of mycelium. In jars, up to several degrees of heat is produced by the colonizing mycelium; so definitely don't go over 80F to 81F if you're looking for maximum rate of growth. Furthermore, bacteria and thermophilic molds such as Mucor, the black pin mold are stimulated by higher temperatures. Therefore using an incubator set to 86F is certainly favoring bacteria and molds, while slowing down mushroom mycelium growth. Below is a picture of one of my colonization shelves. It sits in my bedroom at normal room temperature and quart jars of rye berries colonize fully in ten days, and pf jars colonize fully in 14 to 21 days, but usually closer to 14. How often do we see posts where people have incubators set at 86F, and they're asking why their jars aren't colonized after four to five weeks, and they have large spots of yellow liquid forming? The liquid is metabolites that the mycelium secretes in response to stress, usually from competitor molds and/or bacteria. What has happened, is they've slowed down the mycelium while stimulating the competitors. COLONIZATION





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Re: Newbie modified poor man's pod (indoor/outdoor) [Re: TacoHerder]
    #10837785 - 08/11/09 03:54 AM (14 years, 7 months ago)

holy shit well thanks for the link

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Re: Newbie modified poor man's pod (indoor/outdoor) [Re: CaliforniaLove]
    #10837788 - 08/11/09 03:57 AM (14 years, 7 months ago)

Im still reading all that info he gave us. It answers so many questions...


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Re: Newbie modified poor man's pod (indoor/outdoor) [Re: TacoHerder]
    #10837789 - 08/11/09 03:57 AM (14 years, 7 months ago)

You can find alot of outdated info check the dates read through some peoples threads, I actually have some shit in my threads about temps I think


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Re: Newbie modified poor man's pod (indoor/outdoor) [Re: CaliforniaLove]
    #10837794 - 08/11/09 03:59 AM (14 years, 7 months ago)

alright cool guys thanks for the help

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Re: Newbie modified poor man's pod (indoor/outdoor) [Re: CaliforniaLove]
    #10837796 - 08/11/09 04:05 AM (14 years, 7 months ago)

Fo shizznizzle


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Re: Newbie modified poor man's pod (indoor/outdoor) [Re: newtogrowing]
    #10839107 - 08/11/09 11:57 AM (14 years, 7 months ago)

way more hasle than its worth. It may or may not work, and if it does work results would most likely be poor.

So whos going to find it>? Parents? Big no/.

If you dont have your own place, forget about growing its a bad idea.


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Re: Newbie modified poor man's pod (indoor/outdoor) [Re: veda_sticks]
    #10839148 - 08/11/09 12:03 PM (14 years, 7 months ago)

im just curious as to where the jars are colonizing if he can hide jars inside surely a fc of sorts can be hidden inside


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Re: Newbie modified poor man's pod (indoor/outdoor) [Re: veda_sticks]
    #10839172 - 08/11/09 12:07 PM (14 years, 7 months ago)

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way more hasle than its worth. It may or may not work, and if it does work results would most likely be poor.

So whos going to find it>? Parents? Big no/.

If you dont have your own place, forget about growing its a bad idea.




why do u suspect results to be poor?

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