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OfflineChubbSubb
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Exitentialism.
    #1082579 - 11/24/02 10:17 PM (14 years, 2 months ago)

Website links or suggested books?


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Anonymous

Re: Exitentialism. [Re: ChubbSubb]
    #1082997 - 11/25/02 12:30 AM (14 years, 2 months ago)

Theistic or atheistic?


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Re: Exitentialism. [Re: ]
    #1083022 - 11/25/02 12:37 AM (14 years, 2 months ago)

Agnosticism.


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Anonymous

Re: Exitentialism. [Re: Phluck]
    #1083072 - 11/25/02 12:49 AM (14 years, 2 months ago)

That isn't an existential category.

Try science for one hundred. :wink:


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Re: Exitentialism. [Re: ChubbSubb]
    #1083188 - 11/25/02 01:20 AM (14 years, 2 months ago)

http://www.philosophypages.com/
My favorite book on existentialism is "Love and Will" by Rollo May. He was an American, though, and some people don't consider American existentialism "real" existentialism. My favorite existential book, on the other hand, has to be "The Stranger" by Albert Camus. What it comes down to, I think, is the idea that existence precedes essense. This article talks about that a bit. Happy hunting!
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Anonymous

Re: Exitentialism. [Re: machineelf368]
    #1083258 - 11/25/02 01:55 AM (14 years, 2 months ago)

What an excellent link!

I eschew existentialism of both types because I do not think any of them understood the nature of man.  Rollo May is an excellent read though, if you want a good taste of "American existentialism".  Camus is great but I prefer Kafka's Metamorphosis for a true insight into how insane existentialism can be. :wink:

What do you think of Sartre?  How would he see habituation in the light of his thought?

Cheers, 


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Re: Exitentialism. [Re: ]
    #1083272 - 11/25/02 02:01 AM (14 years, 2 months ago)

Jean Paul Sartre: Basic Writings Stephen Priest


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Anonymous

Re: Exitentialism. [Re: Fcuerkt]
    #1083336 - 11/25/02 02:18 AM (14 years, 2 months ago)

Thank you.


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Anonymous

Re: Exitentialism. [Re: ]
    #1083528 - 11/25/02 03:42 AM (14 years, 2 months ago)

Could you explain in a nutshell what existentialism means. I've read the book The Stranger by Camus if that would help me understand.


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Re: Exitentialism. [Re: ]
    #1083573 - 11/25/02 04:04 AM (14 years, 2 months ago)

Existentialism is trying to address the questions of our existence and apply some kind of meaning to it. Athiest existentialists basically think existence is meaningless (until we assign one to it) and theists think we cannot understand it's meaning.

But I'm sure somebody here can give me a better definition.


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Re: Exitentialism. [Re: Fcuerkt]
    #1083616 - 11/25/02 04:36 AM (14 years, 2 months ago)

Existentialism is a misnomer... there is no single existentialist philosophy. All of the "existentialists" say things just a little differently.

Thus far, I think Nietzsche has a better grasp on what the "existentialists" were trying to communicate. I haven't read a whole lot of Sarte yet so my take on all of it might change... however, it seems to me that the "existentialists" only focus on half of the fork in the road (if that makes any sense). Whereas Nietzsche avoids the perils of the fork by walking both ways at the same time.

Just my current two cents...


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Re: Exitentialism. [Re: Sclorch]
    #1084075 - 11/25/02 12:41 PM (14 years, 2 months ago)

Thanks guys. I am new to philosophy, I have just started researching and learning about it. I would be greatful for any tips from you shroomerites. I have actually been thinking about taking some philosophy courses in college.
Happy trails, Trevor :laugh:


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Re: Exitentialism. [Re: ]
    #1084193 - 11/25/02 01:46 PM (14 years, 2 months ago)

As Fcuerkt indicates existentialism focuses on 'authenticity' and 'absurdity', two concepts that are essential to existentalism.

Camus' The Stranger cannot have Sartre's pasted over top of it at every point.

Maybe in the future we can discuss this further.

Good luck in your reading.


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