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Pennington's Anual Rye Grass Seed Help
    #1082413 - 11/24/02 08:43 PM (14 years, 17 days ago)

Hello there,

Does anyone have experience with this type of Pennington Anual Rye Grass Seed?

What is the best tech for this stuff?

I am going to first soak it overnight with rain water and then what?

Thanks for any help ,
GG


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Re: Pennington's Anual Rye Grass Seed Help [Re: GGreatOne234]
    #1082541 - 11/24/02 10:00 PM (14 years, 17 days ago)

Rain water sounds like a good idea, but when I tried that they all got contam. This was my first grow however so it could have been due to some other factor. You might want to try making a tea out of arowhead water and some random plant material around your yard. Check the ph before use. Just to see what you get.
Have you used rain water before?


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Re: Pennington's Anual Rye Grass Seed Help [Re: GGreatOne234]
    #1082629 - 11/24/02 10:44 PM (14 years, 17 days ago)

Soak for 6-24 hours, the longer you soak the more chance for sprouting. Load jars, only half full, so you can shake it. Pressure cook 15 psi for at least 60 minutes, 90 if you do 14 quarts at a time.

Cool overnight in cooker. Innoculate.

You can use your tap water if you want.

Can also just load jars with 1 1/2 cups ryegrass seed and 3/4 cup water, pressure cook, and cool overnight. Shake jars to distribute the drier seed into the wetter seed. This method does result in a more uneven distribution of moisture. Bottom seed gets caked, and top seed stays a bit dry, but it still works, just takes longer to colonize.


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Re: Pennington's Anual Rye Grass Seed Help [Re: ]
    #1085356 - 11/25/02 09:11 PM (14 years, 16 days ago)

Hi,

The jars have been prepared but they do not shake so well..

I'd like to have something easier to work with than Rye Grass Seed..  :smirk: :smirk: 


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Re: Pennington's Anual Rye Grass Seed Help [Re: GGreatOne234]
    #1085735 - 11/25/02 11:15 PM (14 years, 16 days ago)

Did you over fill the jars? Did you strain the soaked seed long enough?

Rye seed isn't difficult, like any substrate you just have to tinker with it a couple of times.

If shaking remains a problem, you can fluff up the seed with perlite prior to cooking. I use perlite ALOT as an additive to many substrate mixes. Really airs out compacted substrates, makes them easier to shake.

If you are doing seed up for sclerotia, I would reccomend not adding Perlite or Vermiculite, JUST USE THE STRAIGHT SEED. Moist of the good substrates for Sclerotia production are difficult to shake, ie RICE and SEED. If you are using the Substrate to lay out for SHROOMS, go ahead and add PERLITE or Vermiculite to lossen up the Substrate.

Doing some runs with millet right now, it to can get alittle compacted if you use to much water, simmer to long(exploded grains). I really like the millet though, going to replace the rye grain with it from now on.

Ryegrass seed also makes a great additive to manure mixtures for Pans.!!!!!

4 manure(leached overnight, drained overnight, and crumbled)
1 perlite/vermiculite(pre moistened)
1 ryegrass seed(pre soaked)
adjust moisture as neccessary

Load 2 cups per quart jar pressure cook for 60-90 minutes. Innoculate with mycelium. Incubate. Break up and lay out in trays. Incubate 24-48 hours. Case with just a dusting of peat:verm/perlite, enough to cover the white mycelium, incubate 24-48 hours, place in fruiting chamber. Mist and fan once a day until pins form. Start fanning more, and stop misting.



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Re: Pennington's Anual Rye Grass Seed Help [Re: ]
    #1085886 - 11/25/02 11:58 PM (14 years, 16 days ago)

I'm considering doing some experiments with rye grass seed and was wondering what is the best brand to use? All the rye grass I see in the store is treated with that blue or green shit to poison the birds and make it grow better or whatever


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Re: Pennington's Anual Rye Grass Seed Help [Re: PsiloSteve]
    #1086556 - 11/26/02 04:08 AM (14 years, 16 days ago)

Having encountered problems getting the water ratios for sraight rye grass seed - as im used to millet, i ended up making a mixture of verm and soaked grass-seed witha touch of rye to get things going. Pack into 400mls jars innoculated with small agar wedge.
Fruited Ps.Mexicanna and cubensis off this, so it worked fine.


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Re: Pennington's Anual Rye Grass Seed Help [Re: GGreatOne234]
    #1086607 - 11/26/02 04:31 AM (14 years, 16 days ago)

What exactly do you want to grow?


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Re: Pennington's Anual Rye Grass Seed Help [Re: PsiloSteve]
    #1088988 - 11/26/02 11:23 PM (14 years, 15 days ago)

Any brand that lacks added nitrogen fixing organisms or pesticides. Kmart has some that works fine, it is expensive though. KGRO brand.


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