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booduh
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a cube is a cube except PE
#10816902 - 08/07/09 10:30 AM (14 years, 5 months ago) |
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how is a P.E. a cube but it is stronger then any other cube? Is it because its a mutant? If so, does that mean all mutants have more actives then a regular cube?
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prismism



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Re: a cube is a cube except PE [Re: booduh]
#10816918 - 08/07/09 10:34 AM (14 years, 5 months ago) |
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pe tends to be really dense. that is what i attribute to the higher potency.
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Re: a cube is a cube except PE [Re: booduh]
#10816923 - 08/07/09 10:35 AM (14 years, 5 months ago) |
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Potency is mostly genetic. One of the mutations PE carries is for unusual potency (so I've read).
With agar skills, you could isolate the most potent fruits from any strain and breed stronger mushrooms. It would take some work, and you'd want some kind of testing equipment, probably a gas chromatograph or similar.
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elementswrath
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Re: a cube is a cube except PE [Re: booduh]
#10816933 - 08/07/09 10:37 AM (14 years, 5 months ago) |
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what defines a cube is by resemblance to other cubes from features including drug content . so that means if the drug content is similar and closes to acquired to cubes more than any other mushroom that is what makes it a cube.
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nastos
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elementswrath said: what defines a cube is by resemblance to other cubes from features including drug content . so that means if the drug content is similar and closes to acquired to cubes more than any other mushroom that is what makes it a cube. 
and the fact that it IS a cube just isolated from mutants
drug content? seems your not really sure what ur talking about here there are tons of mushrooms with "drug content" psilocybin to be more precise and they are not all cubes
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Slimz
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i thought it was a cube because it was a cube...
i mean if its the same species then its the same species..
thats like saying a human is a human except for a black man because he has more pigment in his skin.
species and strain are allot like species and race.
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nastos
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Re: a cube is a cube except PE [Re: Slimz]
#10816980 - 08/07/09 10:51 AM (14 years, 5 months ago) |
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Slimz said: i thought it was a cube because it was a cube...
i mean if its the same species then its the same species..
thats like saying a human is a human except for a black man because he has more pigment in his skin.
species and strain are allot like species and race.
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prismism



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elementswrath said: what defines a cube is by resemblance to other cubes from features including drug content . so that means if the drug content is similar and closes to acquired to cubes more than any other mushroom that is what makes it a cube. 
come again?
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Humbled
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Re: a cube is a cube except PE [Re: nastos]
#10816987 - 08/07/09 10:53 AM (14 years, 5 months ago) |
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I think he meant to say in the -amount of drug content- they are similar to other Cubensis.
Still.... other Psilocybes DO have similar drug contents in Psilocybin, Psilocin, and Baeocystin. Some more, some less.
I think the way we are identifying mushrooms nowadays has alot to do with DNA as well.
Many names seem to have been modified in the recent past.
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hemppy
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Re: a cube is a cube except PE [Re: Humbled]
#10817340 - 08/07/09 12:12 PM (14 years, 5 months ago) |
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I'm not sure that PE are more potent simply because they are a mutant "strain" so I doubt all mutants are more potent.
I don't think anyone here really knows why they are more potent. They just are. Then again it could be a mass placebo effect and we all just "think" we are more stoned than we really are.
I doubt that's the case because I ate 1g a couple weeks ago of APE and I am a firm believer they are stronger.
Oh and this thread belongs in the strain thread or you could have just added to the PE=potent as hell thread.
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Re: a cube is a cube except PE [Re: hemppy]
#10817406 - 08/07/09 12:25 PM (14 years, 5 months ago) |
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PE was the result of one person's steady lab work and cross-breeding. I bet that if you invested that much time in strain isolation you could have a culture isolated that would be similarly potent. Though I doubt you could make it shaped like a penis, that's just mad skillz.
It should also be said that I've read of PEs yielding easily a quarter of the amount of regular shrooms in weight. If this is true and the fruits are twice as potent, the organism is still only producing half the actives.
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From how I understand it "Penis Envy" had to at one point come from a single cubensis with a unique set of genetics and perticularly potent content. It also looked a lot like a dick. multiple spore prints were taken it was isolated, cloned, everything you could do to take a sample, the whole nine yards.
The genetics from that magical penis shroom that some unknown person found have now been commercialized. Imagine being the guy who was just stumbling through a field and saw a hallucinogenic dick sitting there in the grass 
no one knows where it came from, but many have speculated, some say it came from a world adventure journey of dennis and terrance mckenna, but that was later dis-credited when asked about it dennis mckenna replied "its news to me" im sure he would have remembered taking prints of a unique dick looking super potent shroom if it was true.
I would really like to know if PE is considered a mutant as well though. RR?
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Edited by Nuggetpouch (08/07/09 12:41 PM)
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Re: a cube is a cube except PE [Re: Nuggetpouch]
#10817480 - 08/07/09 12:42 PM (14 years, 5 months ago) |
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sorry. APE is a crossbreed, not regular PE (that I know of anyway). Just got my morning coffee.
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UpSwell
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Re: a cube is a cube except PE [Re: Nuggetpouch]
#10817511 - 08/07/09 12:50 PM (14 years, 5 months ago) |
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Nuggetpouch said: From how I understand it "Penis Envy" had to at one point come from a single cubensis with a unique set of genetics and perticularly potent content. It also looked a lot like a dick. multiple spore prints were taken it was isolated, cloned, everything you could do to take a sample, the whole nine yards.
The genetics from that magical penis shroom that some unknown person found have now been commercialized. Imagine being the guy who was just stumbling through a field and saw a hallucinogenic dick sitting there in the grass 
no one knows where it came from, but many have speculated, some say it came from a world adventure journey of dennis and terrance mckenna, but that was later dis-credited when asked about it dennis mckenna replied "its news to me" im sure he would have remembered taking prints of a unique dick looking super potent shroom if it was true.
I would really like to know if PE is considered a mutant as well though. RR?
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Jitsu
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Pretty sure it was Terrence Mckenna who brought the strain about.
There's a guy named mushroom john that would probably have more information on this subject.
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Re: a cube is a cube except PE [Re: Nuggetpouch]
#10817529 - 08/07/09 12:55 PM (14 years, 5 months ago) |
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Nuggetpouch said: I would really like to know if PE is considered a mutant
Everything is a mutant. Think about it.
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PNW FunGuy
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Re: a cube is a cube except PE [Re: Jitsu]
#10817555 - 08/07/09 01:01 PM (14 years, 5 months ago) |
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Re: a cube is a cube except PE [Re: PNW FunGuy]
#10817786 - 08/07/09 01:45 PM (14 years, 5 months ago) |
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Cos of the look of the shrooms i will never grow them
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apoonanor
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Re: a cube is a cube except PE [Re: spiritM]
#10817810 - 08/07/09 01:50 PM (14 years, 5 months ago) |
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the term "a cube is a cube" refers to the fact that most cubes have the same growth parameters and, other than a few circumstances, look and behave similarly.
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booduh
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Re: a cube is a cube except PE [Re: apoonanor]
#10818059 - 08/07/09 02:38 PM (14 years, 5 months ago) |
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I might be wrong, but i thought you can not make a print from a P.E. unless maybe you flush the gills.
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