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help with second monotub grow
    #10704455 - 07/19/09 03:02 PM (14 years, 8 months ago)

This is my second monotub grow and the initial pinset and flush are always mangled and deformed.  I took some pics to show the grows and setup.  tub1 I took the picture through the plastic covering so it is a little hazy but I went ahead and opened tub2 up to get a clear shot.  The lights hanging over the tub are incandescent indoor plant lights.  I stood underneath the ceiling fan that runs in the room to get the shot and I also have a standing vornado running as well.  The temperature within the tubs hangs around 78.5 degrees, sadly this is as low as I can get it in a house with no AC.  The outside ambient temperature of the room is 74 degrees.  The Humidity within the tubs is 85%.  Any help greatly appreciated.



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Re: help with second monotub grow [Re: ev0lfung]
    #10704464 - 07/19/09 03:03 PM (14 years, 8 months ago)

i know why, i had the same thing, its the blue tub i rekon. does something with the light, could be rong though is your lid clear?


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Re: help with second monotub grow [Re: FractalXplora]
    #10704476 - 07/19/09 03:06 PM (14 years, 8 months ago)

I cut out the entire lid center to the edge and used gorilla tape hold a clear shower curtain over it

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Re: help with second monotub grow [Re: ev0lfung]
    #10704519 - 07/19/09 03:17 PM (14 years, 8 months ago)

Poor lighting


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Re: help with second monotub grow [Re: veda_sticks]
    #10704542 - 07/19/09 03:24 PM (14 years, 8 months ago)

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Poor lighting



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That may not be the whole problem, but you're using crappy bulbs. Incandescent bulbs put out barley any light and what they do is in the wrong spectrum for fruiting. Get some daylight or cool white compact fluorescents. 15 or 20 watts should be enough over each tub.

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Re: help with second monotub grow [Re: wygram]
    #10704590 - 07/19/09 03:36 PM (14 years, 8 months ago)

I am using Philips Agro-Lite 60 W incandescent.  Would a 24" fluorescent be well enough lighting for 2 tubs?

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Re: help with second monotub grow [Re: ev0lfung]
    #10704644 - 07/19/09 03:47 PM (14 years, 8 months ago)

so 2 separate grows with same mutants? what strain are they? are you using LC, agar or MS ? what is your substrate made of?


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Re: help with second monotub grow [Re: tonyshroom]
    #10704751 - 07/19/09 04:10 PM (14 years, 8 months ago)

are you using lysol to clean the tubs and/or surrounding area?

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Re: help with second monotub grow [Re: Optx]
    #10704766 - 07/19/09 04:13 PM (14 years, 8 months ago)

Lysol = mutants = myth


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Re: help with second monotub grow [Re: tonyshroom]
    #10705308 - 07/19/09 05:51 PM (14 years, 8 months ago)

Tony, this is a MS inoculation to a grain jar and then to a Grain LC using agar's tech.  This is the way I have always done jars and never received anything like this.  This is a Pink Buffalo grow.  The first Monotub grow I did was B+ and the first flush was the same.  The second, third and fourth flushes came out beautifully.

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whoops, forgot.  The substrate is 75/25 coir/verm with a tablespoon of fish fertalizer for nitrogen.  The fish fertilizer is new.  The first tubs I did I used coffee grounds.  This seems to be producing a much denser pinset than original... I can't say for sure on that because this is pink buffalo and the first was B+

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Re: help with second monotub grow [Re: Optx]
    #10705316 - 07/19/09 05:52 PM (14 years, 8 months ago)

Optx, I use soap and water to clean surfaces and tubs.

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Re: help with second monotub grow [Re: ev0lfung]
    #10718908 - 07/22/09 02:50 AM (14 years, 8 months ago)

ok, pics 12 hours before first harvest... looks like i really need to do something about the light issue.  Notice some of the caps are inverting and bodies are stringy (best way to describe it).  A few on the left of tub1 grew into themselves and even had a few pins that just grew into caps with no bodies which looks like a giant pill bug (rolly polly?). 


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Re: help with second monotub grow [Re: ev0lfung]
    #10736797 - 07/25/09 04:21 AM (14 years, 8 months ago)

Is there an albino in there?


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Re: help with second monotub grow [Re: Triptonic]
    #10736896 - 07/25/09 06:07 AM (14 years, 8 months ago)

lol what i was thinking in the second pick:thumbup:

and oh yea, get some 6500k bulbs and u'll be good to go

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Re: help with second monotub grow [Re: Fangaz420]
    #10785421 - 08/02/09 12:12 PM (14 years, 7 months ago)

Yes that was an albino in there.  I got some 6500K lights finally, equivalent to 100W incandescent (23 watt i believe).  The second and third flush turned out much shorter and much much more dense with the new lighting.  We'll see how it turns out in the next grow.  very nice.  Here is some pin porn for your entertainment.


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Re: help with second monotub grow [Re: ev0lfung]
    #10796461 - 08/04/09 02:36 AM (14 years, 7 months ago)

My similar problem, using a transparent blue tub and lid, a clear lid made for a more normal looking second flush!










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Re: help with second monotub grow [Re: FractalXplora]
    #10796489 - 08/04/09 02:54 AM (14 years, 7 months ago)

I think FractalXplora is right I remember seeing alot of threads on this like 3-4 years back when everyone was using 18 gallon rubbermaid totes for monotubs.


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Re: help with second monotub grow [Re: ArcanePerception]
    #10796648 - 08/04/09 04:27 AM (14 years, 7 months ago)

strangly enought though this was my biggest ever yield of a montub, 1st flush was 1800g of twisted mutants, destoyed the substrate as it was a carpet of stems, potency rocked though :thumbup:

strange though cause my 1st ever mono used the same tub and lid, and the EQ strain grew large and perfect. only difference being it recieved natual daylight though a window and not a 2ft 6500K bulb as in this gT grow.


only conclusion i can come to is the electric light somehow penetrates the transparent bule and causes this mutation.


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Re: help with second monotub grow [Re: FractalXplora]
    #10811603 - 08/06/09 01:58 PM (14 years, 7 months ago)

Interesting, well I got some new rubbermaid stack n view tubs that are white with clear tops.  I will do another grow in the blue versus the white with the same isolated myc. and same lighting.

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Re: help with second monotub grow [Re: ev0lfung]
    #10811682 - 08/06/09 02:12 PM (14 years, 7 months ago)

more fae and clone that albino but don't listen to me.

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