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Invisiblebert
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other worldly tripping
    #1080093 - 11/23/02 09:18 PM (14 years, 9 months ago)

how many of you have tripped so hard you were firmly convinced you were in an alternate reality? I think i just did and it was the most amazing thing ever. my question is, do you think you can achieve the same mind blowing effects of say, salvia, by doing things like deep meditation?


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Re: other worldly tripping [Re: bert]
    #1080109 - 11/23/02 09:25 PM (14 years, 9 months ago)

Can's say that I have.

As for medatation, I think it could be possable with LOTS of practice.


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What if everything around you
Isn't quite as it seems?
What if all the world you think you know,
Is an elaborate dream?
And if you look at your reflection,
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Re: other worldly tripping [Re: bert]
    #1080115 - 11/23/02 09:31 PM (14 years, 9 months ago)

While ON Salvia extract I've definitely been convinced I wasn't where I just was before I smoked it, but upon coming back down, I look back and think "well I'm still sitting right here..."

I've not gotten into meditation much (well not conventional meditation..), so I don't know how deep that can take you. McKenna was convinced its not possible to achieve full-blown psychedelic states through meditation alone, and I certainly think it would take years of strict dedication to get anywhere CLOSE to what happens on psychedelics... so.. I'm not sure :smile:


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Re: other worldly tripping [Re: Strumpling]
    #1080123 - 11/23/02 09:35 PM (14 years, 9 months ago)

I guess you can count my salvia experience as well.

I have had a very vivid 'spatial sense' while medatating, I also visualized some neat stuff. But my sense of depth and space seems to get beyond 3 dimensions.


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What if all the world you think you know,
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Re: other worldly tripping [Re: bert]
    #1080160 - 11/23/02 09:53 PM (14 years, 9 months ago)

well, i wrote that first post a little while ago and im still tripping pretty hard. salvia and dxm plus weed...leads you to some pretty amazing places. I can only guess how many of you have been there..to that place. Post here, if you have.


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Re: other worldly tripping [Re: bert]
    #1080164 - 11/23/02 09:55 PM (14 years, 9 months ago)

I'm not into dxm..... but the salvia extract certainly seems to rip me right out of the living room for a while.


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Re: other worldly tripping [Re: Strumpling]
    #1080167 - 11/23/02 09:57 PM (14 years, 9 months ago)

i think salvia is the most powerful drug in the world. It changes your frame of mind so much its like getting you brain and wrapping it around a rock and throwing it off the edge of a huge cliff. It completely breaks down the parts of reality that you need the most.


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Re: other worldly tripping [Re: bert]
    #1080175 - 11/23/02 10:02 PM (14 years, 9 months ago)

You haven't tried DMT then have you?


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Re: other worldly tripping [Re: Strumpling]
    #1080195 - 11/23/02 10:12 PM (14 years, 9 months ago)

we salvia users should come together and discuss its effects. I was always curious if I was really feeling similar things to other people on salvia. It's such a unique and foreign yet familiar feeling. Anyone else get this?


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Re: other worldly tripping [Re: bert]
    #1080206 - 11/23/02 10:16 PM (14 years, 9 months ago)

Maybe, I donno really. I was too far gone to realize I existed.


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Re: other worldly tripping [Re: bert]
    #1080210 - 11/23/02 10:17 PM (14 years, 9 months ago)

dude go to www.erowid.org and check out the salvia trip-reports..... you can get a pretty good range of metaphors for a range of different people's salvia trips.


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Re: other worldly tripping [Re: bert]
    #1082335 - 11/24/02 07:55 PM (14 years, 9 months ago)

3 times. once on shrooms, once on shrooms/salvia, and once on salvia alone.


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