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hawks eye/bad spores?
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So i ordered 2 syringes of b+ from the hawk's eye, and the shipping time was great.  Syringes had brown tumbleweedy things inside(lots of spores=good, right?)  I followed rr's rye tek:

http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/7000595#7000595

to a tee(half coffee, half water,1 tsp gypsum per every 4 cups of grains, pre soaked 36 hrs, removed WHILE boiling, dried thoroughly) and started with 6 jars using this method.  2 days later I inoculated 4 more jars with the very same rye tek, and 2 with this popcorn tek:

http://www.shroomery.org/9035/Popcorn-Tek-w-pics

also following the instructions exactly.

After a total of 10 days from inoculation of the first jars, none of them are colonized at all.  I am very new to amateur mycology, so i want to find a method that will work best for me using grains.  I kept half of the jars in my back room which is about 78-80 degrees, and half in  another room which is about 73-75 degrees to see which would work best.  I used 2 layers of tyvek paper, and 4 nail holes in the lids, with the tyvek on the outside to combat moisture on the bottom of the tyvek.  2-3 inches of water in the pc'er, and foiled the jar tops,100 minute pc'ing, no flooding/over drying at all, as a matter of fact everything looked and still looks ideal(not too moist, not too dry), but zero growth.  i have like 2 cc's left from each of the syringes(4cc total) that i will attempts a last ditch attempt to make 2 lc's out of.  contams are no worry to me so far as NOTHING is growing in my jars....i sterilized everything, covered my inoculation holes with porous tape, i did everything you guys told me to.

I'm not bashing the hawk at all but do you think if i don't see growth in my lc's my spores are dead?  Should i try the hawk again or try somewhere else?  And lastly can the heat of fl during shipping ruin spores? ( if so i may be s.o.l. as a whole)  I love this hobby even though i am having problems....i love the shroomery too, and i  won't give up!

comments, advice, all is welcome, and thanks for the help so far to everyone


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Edited by Harold Hole (08/03/09 02:46 PM)

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Re: hawks eye/bad spores? [Re: Harold Hole]
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have used him and is OK fast and discreet but not that happy with results but as far as i know he will replace your order with a new one if you email him


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Re: hawks eye/bad spores? [Re: feelfunny]
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I've never had a problem with anything I've ordered from him. My last  order only took 2 days to get to me

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Re: hawks eye/bad spores? [Re: eric111e]
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not bad just not my first choice


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Re: hawks eye/bad spores? [Re: Harold Hole]
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Popcorn tek has a very bad rate if you don't know what you are doing. You messed up somewhere I bet. Stick with something easier for your first try. If you insist on using a grain use Rye or one of the others.


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Re: hawks eye/bad spores? [Re: feelfunny]
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The B+ spores I ordered from hawk's eye grew wonderfully (so did the EQ's). I used the BRF tek. My spores looked like your description "brown tumble-weedy things". Did you let your jars cool overnight before inoculation?


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Re: hawks eye/bad spores? [Re: feelfunny]
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It also got to me in 2 days flat!  I am very happy with the order experience, and still don't blame hawk(shit happens) but like i asked before, do you think that the heat during shipping is going to affect future orders? It would be unexpectedly cool if i got diff syringes but how do you email someone telling them spores you aren't supposed to use for anything but researching didn't work?


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Re: hawks eye/bad spores? [Re: MHbound]
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whimsy said:
The B+ spores I ordered from hawk's eye grew wonderfully (so did the EQ's). I used the BRF tek. My spores looked like your description "brown tumble-weedy things". Did you let your jars cool overnight before inoculation?


yes i did-about 14 hrs


MHbound said:
Popcorn tek has a very bad rate if you don't know what you are doing. You messed up somewhere I bet. Stick with something easier for your first try. If you insist on using a grain use Rye or one of the others.


i agree , I added the popcorn tek just to do a couple jars in case something like this happened it would help to to determine the cause of failure by having multiple teks in use


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Re: hawks eye/bad spores? [Re: Harold Hole]
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hinderpits said:
It also got to me in 2 days flat!  I am very happy with the order experience, and still don't blame hawk(shit happens) but like i asked before, do you think that the heat during shipping is going to affect future orders? It would be unexpectedly cool if i got diff syringes but how do you email someone telling them spores you aren't supposed to use for anything but researching didn't work?


I'm 4 for 4 with the spores I got from the Hawk's Eye, so from my experience and from what I've read he seems solid. 

If you're pretty sure it was the syringes I'd send him an email saying you've been looking at the spores under a microscope and you don't think that they're living viable spores or that they show signs that lead you to believe they were contaminated or something along those lines, and ask if there's anything he can do to help you with that.

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Re: hawks eye/bad spores? [Re: Harold Hole]
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Its more likely something you did wrong, because I've ordered probably 10 different strains and never had a problem.

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Re: hawks eye/bad spores? [Re: eric111e]
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I just bought B+ from him 3 weeks ago and I am 6 for 6. Here is a pic from that exact syringe.


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Re: hawks eye/bad spores? [Re: Harold Hole]
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What is the number tempwise spores fail at?  these spore syringes sat in my black mailbox in s florida for at least a couple hours.  I asked about this b4 but heard they should be fine.

Edited by Harold Hole (08/03/09 03:15 PM)

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Re: hawks eye/bad spores? [Re: Harold Hole]
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I saw somewhere that it is like 130f for that amount of time. Mine sat in the mailbox for around an hour or 2 and they where fine. How soon after sterilizing the jars did you knock them up? If you do it before the jars cool to room temp you can kill them...

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Re: hawks eye/bad spores? [Re: FuckMeRunnin]
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I guess they can start to fail at around 106 but wont completely die till around 130-150F.

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Re: hawks eye/bad spores? [Re: FuckMeRunnin]
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get a print they can stand more heat i live in AL and have had the same problem with the mail box killing spores


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If the sky is falling, don't look up!  :abduction:

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Re: hawks eye/bad spores? [Re: FuckMeRunnin]
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FuckMeRunnin said:
I guess they can start to fail at around 106 but wont completely die till around 130-150F.


if its a 100 degrees outside, and my mailbox is on a post,black,plastic and seals fairly well, i would guess it meets those temps  Honestly i didn't expect the hawk to ship so quickly, i mean i'm not even sure how the hell something got here regular mail in less than 48 hrs:smile:
I'm going to order again whether my lc's turn out or not and this time i will maintain a constant vigil on that mailbox, and think ill try some wbs this time as well as some rye again


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Re: hawks eye/bad spores? [Re: Harold Hole]
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GOOD LUCK BUT I WOULD E MAIL HIM HE HAS NO PROBLEM REPLACING THEM BECAUSE IT WAS NOT YOUR FAULT


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IF A CAT AND DOG CAN GET ALONG WHY CANT EVERYONE ELSE?
If the sky is falling, don't look up!  :abduction:

Feel Family Founder. :pm: me if you are tired of hearing, "Use the search function".

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Re: hawks eye/bad spores? [Re: Harold Hole]
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I will drop him an email.  And just to repeat I am not jumping on hawk's- My experience had extenuating circumstances.  I will not give up til i see mycelium mountain!!

Edited by Harold Hole (08/03/09 04:27 PM)

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Re: hawks eye/bad spores? [Re: Harold Hole]
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YOU ARE 1 OF MANY TO FAIL THE FIRST TIME SO DON'T GIVE UP IT IS WORTH THE WAIT I'M SURE YOU KNOW


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IF A CAT AND DOG CAN GET ALONG WHY CANT EVERYONE ELSE?
If the sky is falling, don't look up!  :abduction:

Feel Family Founder. :pm: me if you are tired of hearing, "Use the search function".

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Re: hawks eye/bad spores? [Re: eric111e]
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eric111e said:
I've never had a problem with anything I've ordered from him. My last  order only took 2 days to get to me


Neither did I, My mycobag is growing hella nice.(actually hella slow)

Check it out

http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/10793566

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Re: hawks eye/bad spores? [Re: Jooooony]
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i ordered from there about a month and a half ago. fast shipping.. when they arrived i immediately opened the box and checked them out.. they were extremely warm. had to be around 100 or more. i just let em col threw em in the fridge and used them about a week later....100%. worked great. although the tumbleweed is very hard to break up inside


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Re: hawks eye/bad spores? [Re: wattballasts]
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RR's rye tek says to use half coffee and half water.  I used instant coffee, but in the prescribed amount per the coffee instructions and an 8 ounce cup.  Could this have made my rye too acidic?(the instant coffee smells potent)


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Re: hawks eye/bad spores? [Re: Harold Hole]
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anyone?


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Re: hawks eye/bad spores? [Re: Harold Hole]
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I wouldn't think freeze drying coffee would make the coffee more acidic.  In short, probably not, but if you think so, use a little less and see what happens -- or just buy a ph meter off of ebay for $40, it'll take the guess work out of substrate ph.

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Re: hawks eye/bad spores? [Re: xtofury]
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i use freezed dried coffee with the pf tek, it still grows fine.

to check the syringe, make up a pf cake. and inoculate that.

LC isnt a good test you will be wasting alot of time and may not get an answer.


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Re: hawks eye/bad spores? [Re: xtofury]
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This is probably sposed to be in the sponsors forum. But, heck, if so it'll get there. I've ordered from a few of the sponsors (before I never needed them again). Dark Spores, whom I never had a luck at all with. Sporeworks, and the hawks eye. The hawks eye always gave me the best syringes and the best service hands down. Usually big clumpy spores that when grown out were hungry to devour substrate and fruit. And also as someone else noted I've gotten my order in 2 days before. I would say the problem is popcorn. I've never used the stuff, because why would you? WBS is cheap as hell, and also I just started using rye grass seed. 56lbs for 20 bux. As long as you're spawning to bulk (which I always am), this stuff works amazingly. No soaking for 24 hours, no boiling, no draining, put it in jars, put water in jars, and pc. So much quicker to get massive amounts of spawn.

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Re: hawks eye/bad spores? [Re: headofmike]
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headofmike said:
This is probably sposed to be in the sponsors forum. But, heck, if so it'll get there. I've ordered from a few of the sponsors (before I never needed them again). Dark Spores, whom I never had a luck at all with. Sporeworks, and the hawks eye. The hawks eye always gave me the best syringes and the best service hands down. Usually big clumpy spores that when grown out were hungry to devour substrate and fruit. And also as someone else noted I've gotten my order in 2 days before. I would say the problem is popcorn. I've never used the stuff, because why would you? WBS is cheap as hell, and also I just started using rye grass seed. 56lbs for 20 bux. As long as you're spawning to bulk (which I always am), this stuff works amazingly. No soaking for 24 hours, no boiling, no draining, put it in jars, put water in jars, and pc. So much quicker to get massive amounts of spawn.


why does everyone think i'm using only popcorn?  Did anyone even read my op?  I used primarily rye berries, and only a few popcorn jars as a second method for result analysis!


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Re: hawks eye/bad spores? [Re: Harold Hole]
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sorry hinderpits. Get more sterile? Get water content right? Could be any any any number of things before you blame the syringe of a very well respected sponsor.

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Re: hawks eye/bad spores? [Re: Harold Hole]
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headofmike said:
sorry hinderpits. Get more sterile? Get water content right? Could be any any any number of things before you blame the syringe of a very well respected sponsor.


OMG I have stated in my thread like several times that i am not dogging hawk's AT ALL and that i strongly suspect the spores died in my mailbox, or i made an error!  Sorry to be a smart ass, but did you read the thread, or just post as a response to the title?  I simply asked what people thought may have happened.

hinderpits said:
I will drop him an email.  And just to repeat I am not jumping on hawk's- My experience had extenuating circumstances.  I will not give up til i see mycelium mountain!!


hinderpits said:
FuckMeRunnin said:
I guess they can start to fail at around 106 but wont completely die till around 130-150F.


if its a 100 degrees outside, and my mailbox is on a post,black,plastic and seals fairly well, i would guess it meets those temps  Honestly i didn't expect the hawk to ship so quickly, i mean i'm not even sure how the hell something got here regular mail in less than 48 hrs:)
I'm going to order again whether my lc's turn out or not and this time i will maintain a constant vigil on that mailbox, and think ill try some wbs this time as well as some rye again


I should have just made the title dead syringe, and not involved the sponsor's name, and I apologize for doing so, and appreciate all the great input here at the mb

Edited by Harold Hole (08/04/09 10:26 AM)

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Re: hawks eye/bad spores? [Re: headofmike]
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$20 for 56lbs... that's not bad at all, what sorta place do you find these seeds from?

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Re: hawks eye/bad spores? [Re: xtofury]
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Edited by Harold Hole (08/15/09 07:39 AM)

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Re: hawks eye/bad spores? [Re: Harold Hole]
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Well thought i'd update this thread... I actually ended up with about 7cc's of the b+ left over from hawk's and, I also recieved a gift of a fat ass oak ridge print from an anonymous shroomery user, and i made 12 pf tek cakes(6 hawks, 6 oak ridge) and 6 rye grain jars, and well, after 6 days the oak ridge cakes are full of colonization and hawk's have nothing, so I guess the syringes were bad after all.  I'm not mad at hawk's at all, it wasn't their fault probably either baked in my mailbox, or was an unintentional error of some sort.  Either way I'm just thrilled to see this growth finally, and i will start a grow log to day with some pics.  Thanks to all the support from everyone at the shroomery, from the old school veterans to the newer members still trying to help, thanks again.:grin:

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Re: hawks eye/bad spores? [Re: Harold Hole]
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I've only used Hawks, great service, great product, and great deals.

Mine baked in the mail box, one time, due to the heat where I live and the problem was taken care of in a matter of days. 

Supply, service and deals, great way to build your library.

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