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OfflineTheGreenPhantom
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Irradiated Substrate???
    #1078325 - 11/23/02 01:19 AM (14 years, 17 days ago)

I've followed PF Tek to the 't', yet mycelium never grows on the brown rice or brown rice flour I use.

A little water got on my baggie of weed stems the other day, and presto -- mycellia practically crawling out of the bag! I threw this into my jars of BRF substrate, and they've colonized them a little, but not much. It's been a week and a half now.... :mad:

Does anyone know if the stuff at the supermarket I've been using as substrate has been treated with some sort of anti-fungal agent, or if it's been irradiated (subjected to a small ammount of radiation) to prevent spoilage?

Also, can someone point the way to a more viable substrate -- preferably one that's relatively cheap....


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Re: Irradiated Substrate??? [Re: TheGreenPhantom]
    #1078333 - 11/23/02 01:22 AM (14 years, 17 days ago)

can you explain the part about the weed stems again????


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Re: Irradiated Substrate??? [Re: TheGreenPhantom]
    #1078403 - 11/23/02 01:54 AM (14 years, 17 days ago)

Irradiation would make no difference.


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Re: Irradiated Substrate??? [Re: TheGreenPhantom]
    #1078427 - 11/23/02 02:10 AM (14 years, 17 days ago)

Let me rephrase my question: what other substrates can I use besides BRF????

As for the weed stems, I spilled a glass of tea on my desk, and it got into my drawers. A few days later I found that a bag of weed stems had colonized with mycelia. I put said stems into my jars of BRF, and they have been veeeeeerrry slow to colonize. Innoculating them has engendered no growth. To test if it was the spores that were bad, I've soaked another weed stem with water from my spore serynge, and guess what -- mycelia.



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Re: Irradiated Substrate??? [Re: TheGreenPhantom]
    #1078445 - 11/23/02 02:23 AM (14 years, 17 days ago)

Two questions.
Where did you get your brown rice flour?
Do you still want to do cakes?
You should do the PF tek first.


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Re: Irradiated Substrate??? [Re: TheGreenPhantom]
    #1078504 - 11/23/02 03:01 AM (14 years, 17 days ago)

I really don't have the space to make a poopoo garden from a cat litter box (read: I'm in school and live with my folks), so I guess I have no other choice but cakes.

Pardon my lack of knowledge on mycological matters, but couldn't I just stuff a mason jar w. a different substrate -- one that would actually do its job -- and sterilize it?

I've been thinking about trying quaker oats, wood shavings, and the fiber that comes out of my juicer when I make myself carrot/beet/apple juice. What do you think: will this shit get colonized?

If you know where I could get rye grain or millet, please tell me.

As for the BRF -- I got it from a health food store. When I use whole brown rice, I use Carolina brand....


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Re: Irradiated Substrate??? [Re: TheGreenPhantom]
    #1078543 - 11/23/02 03:24 AM (14 years, 17 days ago)

What makes you think the weed stems would just happen to be colonised with psilocybe cubensis?


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Re: Irradiated Substrate??? [Re: zeta]
    #1078741 - 11/23/02 04:56 AM (14 years, 17 days ago)

Hehe haha oh yeah, thats good. I was thinking the exact damn thing. I love this forum cause every so often we get some off the wall shit that makes me crack up, ahhh, kinda like all of LSAuser's posts, I kinda miss the little guy.


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Re: Irradiated Substrate??? [Re: TheGreenPhantom]
    #1078749 - 11/23/02 04:59 AM (14 years, 17 days ago)

Interesting....in all my readings on mushroom cultivation, the subject of 'Weed stems' has never come up. Yesterday, a friend of mine (completely randomly) mentioned (jokingly) that we should try growing on weed stems.
Now I see this post!
OK, ok, ok, I'm rambling.


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Re: Irradiated Substrate??? [Re: TheGreenPhantom]
    #1079364 - 11/23/02 02:48 PM (14 years, 16 days ago)

Hey guys, I'm not fucking with you. Like, I had no idea.... but it seems to work. The last stem I dropped spore water on is contaminated since I didn't sterilize it first -- but it does have mycelial growth in addition to a green spot of mold.

Brown rice is shit... I've tried using it 8 times already and have only gotten 4 out of (12 x 8) jars to colonize. And those cakes produced a scanty ammount of shrooms... only enough for me to trip twice -- like 8 grams dried. I think I might get better results using dry leaves from my backyard. If I do, I'll keep you posted.


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Re: Irradiated Substrate??? [Re: zeta]
    #1079409 - 11/23/02 03:18 PM (14 years, 16 days ago)

From what I got, the weed stems were to see if anything could colonize the brown rice flour.  But, I might just be making something intelligent out of something not. :tongue: 


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Re: Irradiated Substrate??? [Re: ]
    #1079829 - 11/23/02 06:49 PM (14 years, 16 days ago)

were you drinking mycelium tea? i dont get how you just spilt tea on the stem, and it was covered in myc....maybe grinding up some stems and throiwing them in with the brf is not a bad idea.....


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Re: Irradiated Substrate??? [Re: MsPacMan]
    #1079857 - 11/23/02 07:09 PM (14 years, 16 days ago)

Don't know about stems but a friend of mine has collected a huge jar of ganja seeds. I'm thinking about stealing it off him and trying to use it as a substrate just for a laugh !!!  :grin:

Has anyone ever tried this ? 


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Re: Irradiated Substrate??? [Re: Bi0TeK]
    #1079904 - 11/23/02 07:40 PM (14 years, 16 days ago)

I haven't tried it, but I think it would work! Quite a waste of good seeds though, it'd be better to use 'hemp' seeds. They don't have the potential to grow into many sticky, THC filled beauties.


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Re: Irradiated Substrate??? [Re: TheGreenPhantom]
    #1080816 - 11/24/02 03:02 AM (14 years, 16 days ago)

I Give you the benefit of the doubt, try to help you out. Then you go and post shit like this.
In reply to:

I've been thinking about trying quaker oats, wood shavings, and the fiber that comes out of my juicer when I make myself carrot/beet/apple juice. What do you think: will this shit get colonized?





In reply to:

Brown rice is shit... I've tried using it 8 times already and have only gotten 4 out of (12 x 8) jars to colonize. And those cakes produced a scanty ammount of shrooms... -- like 8 grams dried.



Umm..maybe it's not the rice.

Have you actually read anything here?


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Re: Irradiated Substrate??? [Re: Bi0TeK]
    #1081015 - 11/24/02 04:09 AM (14 years, 16 days ago)

from the shroomery FAQ

Hemp seed are very high in fats, something not generally desirable in the mushroom cultivation, but you will most likely get some growth. There are better, cheaper and more readily available substrates on the market though, like grains or straw.


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Re: Irradiated Substrate??? [Re: MsPacMan]
    #1093035 - 11/28/02 03:38 AM (14 years, 12 days ago)

Yeah, plus the fact that marijuana seeds contain absolutely no THC


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Re: Irradiated Substrate??? [Re: zeta]
    #1093101 - 11/28/02 04:12 AM (14 years, 12 days ago)

As I said I was only thinking of trying ganja seeds just for a laugh to see what happened. As to whether I get any results from it is a different matter ! Besides, I don't think my friend would be too happy with me stealing his grade a skunk seeds !  :tongue: 


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Re: Irradiated Substrate??? [Re: TheGreenPhantom]
    #1093584 - 11/28/02 01:34 PM (14 years, 11 days ago)

I can't get it, in your first post you say you've never managed to grow nothing from BRF cakes, then you say you have got shrooms from cakes  :confused: .
Look man, try to remember the next lines, the easiest way to grow cubensis is using BRF cakes, if you can't do it then most probably you also can't do it with other substrates such as grain, wich is more prone to flaws and as advice avoided by newbies.
If you are not confortable with BRF try using organic wheat or rye floor but please use the rest of PF Tek in the first batches.
Also, cubensis is not a wood lover, using something like leaves or wood pieces will result in failure.

MAIA


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Re: Irradiated Substrate??? [Re: MAIA]
    #1093945 - 11/28/02 03:18 PM (14 years, 11 days ago)

I agree. Damn newbies these days, get all those crazy ideas in their heads, talkin bout using mj stems and seeds, whats next? Hehehe.


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