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Re: psilocybin extraction process? (moved) [Re: piracetam]
    #10696262 - 07/17/09 09:35 PM (12 years, 3 months ago)

It would seem that you and the paper are talking about two different things then. Since the paper is talking about extracted enzymes which desphosphylate the psylocybin into psylocin (which seem to be more prominent in the ethanol extraction) and you seem to be talking about the interactions between the solvents and the psylocybin.

Do I have it straight now? :smile:


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Re: psilocybin extraction process? (moved) [Re: Billy1111]
    #10696411 - 07/17/09 10:06 PM (12 years, 3 months ago)

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excuse the ignorrant question but why extract it?




Just to do so, I have also heard that by ingesting pure psilocin/psilocybin won't cause cramps, which I get in my legs ver badly.


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Re: psilocybin extraction process? (moved) [Re: piracetam]
    #10696418 - 07/17/09 10:07 PM (12 years, 3 months ago)

what kind of extract will you end up with?

A liquid?


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Re: psilocybin extraction process? (moved) [Re: canadadreaming]
    #10696442 - 07/17/09 10:12 PM (12 years, 3 months ago)

hopefully a powder, but if i wanted to i could leave it as a liquid


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Re: psilocybin extraction process? (moved) [Re: canadadreaming]
    #10696446 - 07/17/09 10:13 PM (12 years, 3 months ago)

I know it would be a bunch  of extra work, but I recall reading an article about someone who did an A/B extraction. Could that work?


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Re: psilocybin extraction process? (moved) [Re: radiantthought]
    #10696456 - 07/17/09 10:17 PM (12 years, 3 months ago)

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It would seem that you and the paper are talking about two different things then. Since the paper is talking about extracted enzymes which desphosphylate the psylocybin into psylocin (which seem to be more prominent in the ethanol extraction) and you seem to be talking about the interactions between the solvents and the psylocybin.

Do I have it straight now? :smile:




perhaps

again, to be clear, those enzymes will be inactive in dried mushrooms, i.e. non-functional. from fresh mushrooms, the alcohol will extract primarily psilocybin, as psilocin is embedded deep within the fungal cells.

the alcoholic extraction is simple, less tedious, and doesn't involve potentially hazardous non-polar solvents. psilocybin is stable enough that it can be extracted in a soxhlet.

the A/B extraction, when done carefully, will yield more actives. the latter procedure is tricky, requires less heat, and is sensitive to highly basic solution


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Re: psilocybin extraction process? (moved) [Re: Simulacra541]
    #10696466 - 07/17/09 10:22 PM (12 years, 3 months ago)

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I know it would be a bunch  of extra work, but I recall reading an article about someone who did an A/B extraction. Could that work?




yes.


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Re: psilocybin extraction process? (moved) [Re: piracetam]
    #10696497 - 07/17/09 10:29 PM (12 years, 3 months ago)

Yes, the first step is generally to extract to a liquid, then you can concentrate it to whatever level you want, to a powder in most cases or if it's a very clean one
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It would seem that you and the paper are talking about two different things then. Since the paper is talking about extracted enzymes which desphosphylate the psylocybin into psylocin (which seem to be more prominent in the ethanol extraction) and you seem to be talking about the interactions between the solvents and the psylocybin.

Do I have it straight now? :smile:




perhaps

again, to be clear, those enzymes will be inactive in dried mushrooms, i.e. non-functional. from fresh mushrooms, the alcohol will extract primarily psilocybin, as psilocin is embedded deep within the fungal cells.

the alcoholic extraction is simple, less tedious, and doesn't involve potentially hazardous non-polar solvents. psilocybin is stable enough that it can be extracted in a soxhlet.

the A/B extraction, when done carefully, will yield more actives. the latter procedure is tricky, requires less heat, and is sensitive to highly basic solution




If the enzymes are 'inactive' as you say then why would they bother mentioning it in the paper? It just seems like a strange thing to write a whole paragraph about in your paper if it's not relevant. Ofcourse this paper WAS written in 94, so perhaps it was discovered later that the enzymes in question were deactivated in the drying process, no?


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Re: psilocybin extraction process? (moved) [Re: radiantthought]
    #10696540 - 07/17/09 10:39 PM (12 years, 3 months ago)

enzymes are the machinery of the living fungal tissue... once you dry them, they're dead. they can be isolated, but they cannot undergo protein folding.

I also mentioned in a previous response that alcohol will extract various peptides from the fungal biomass, but these peptides will not dephosphorylate the psilocybin. they would be inactive.


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Re: psilocybin extraction process? (moved) [Re: piracetam]
    #10776865 - 07/31/09 09:51 PM (12 years, 2 months ago)

glad i found this and just want to get it in my treads so i wont forget


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Re: psilocybin extraction process? (moved) [Re: feelfunny]
    #10776893 - 07/31/09 09:56 PM (12 years, 2 months ago)

better way is to scroll down to the bottom and hit 'toggle favorite' then it shows up in your favorites (in your account screen) instead of getting lost in all your threads. Not to mention it prevents thread necromancy.

If your favorites are getting too clogged you can go ahead and do what some do and create a journal entry of useful links and separate them by category.


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