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OfflineCoaster
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If thers a noise complaint and i dont open the doors for the cops can they kick it in??????
    #10772538 - 07/31/09 03:33 AM (14 years, 5 months ago)

if thers is music coming thru the door
wut if its like noon


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Re: If thers a noise complaint and i dont open the doors for the cops can they kick it in?????? [Re: Coaster]
    #10772551 - 07/31/09 03:39 AM (14 years, 5 months ago)

definitely not at noon,
kicking in a door usually requires some sort of higher approval than just a normal cop on the job as it raises the liabilities considerably.


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Re: If thers a noise complaint and i dont open the doors for the cops can they kick it in?????? [Re: twighead]
    #10772555 - 07/31/09 03:40 AM (14 years, 5 months ago)

wut if its midnite
how can they just get called to a complaint and leave without fixing the problem that doesnt make sense


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Re: If thers a noise complaint and i dont open the doors for the cops can they kick it in?????? [Re: Coaster]
    #10772575 - 07/31/09 03:52 AM (14 years, 5 months ago)

Well they'd definitely need some sort of warrant to kick down your door,
but hell
never really happened to me
so i donno  :vaped:


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Re: If thers a noise complaint and i dont open the doors for the cops can they kick it in?????? [Re: Coaster]
    #10772596 - 07/31/09 04:09 AM (14 years, 5 months ago)

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Coaster said:
wut if its midnite
how can they just get called to a complaint and leave without fixing the problem that doesnt make sense





well they cant break down your door, BUT, you damn well realize they will remember that you were obviously home and refused to answer when they made their presence known. be safe.


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Re: If thers a noise complaint and i dont open the doors for the cops can they kick it in?????? [Re: Coaster]
    #10772682 - 07/31/09 04:55 AM (14 years, 5 months ago)

The police will not kick down your door for a noise complaint.

Its never a good idea to open the door for the police. 

When it happens to me, I turn the music down and ignore the cops outside, after awhile they go away.  They are used to being ignored in this situation, it happens to them every day.


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Re: If thers a noise complaint and i dont open the doors for the cops can they kick it in?????? [Re: Alan Rockefeller]
    #10772739 - 07/31/09 05:34 AM (14 years, 5 months ago)

I used to get noise complaints a few years ago at this apartment I lived in with my friend.
And it was pretty repetitive, almost an every night shit. We were dickheads
But we never answered the door and they'd eventually leave :shrug:


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Re: If thers a noise complaint and i dont open the doors for the cops can they kick it in?????? [Re: visions]
    #10772773 - 07/31/09 05:53 AM (14 years, 5 months ago)

I think if the door is unlocked they may be able to open it but they cant kick it down

rules may differ if you live in a closed gate appartment complex or in section 8 housing

both of those I have no clue on


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Re: If thers a noise complaint and i dont open the doors for the cops can they kick it in?????? [Re: Alan Rockefeller]
    #10772797 - 07/31/09 06:01 AM (14 years, 5 months ago)

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Alan Rockefeller said:
The police will not kick down your door for a noise complaint.

Its never a good idea to open the door for the police. 

When it happens to me, I turn the music down and ignore the cops outside, after awhile they go away.  They are used to being ignored in this situation, it happens to them every day.




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Re: If thers a noise complaint and i dont open the doors for the cops can they kick it in?????? [Re: fee]
    #10772800 - 07/31/09 06:02 AM (14 years, 5 months ago)

if its for a noise complant and the music is still on i bet they could kick it down and not get in trouble.  if the music was totally off then you'd prolly win in court.

on the other hand, you really can't know for sure why they are their, it could be more than just the noise.  so it almost seems like your kinda obligated to open or at least talk through the door to them


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Re: If thers a noise complaint and i dont open the doors for the cops can they kick it in?????? [Re: makaveli8x8]
    #10773031 - 07/31/09 07:32 AM (14 years, 5 months ago)

Quote:

your kinda obligated to open


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You constantly make posts thatr fling middle school insults at people you don't like mixed in with maladjusted psychopathic comments about wanting to beat up the other poster with a crowbar.

You know how shit you are, you just don't give a fuck for precisely that reason.

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Re: If thers a noise complaint and i dont open the doors for the cops can they kick it in?????? [Re: TheFakeSunRa]
    #10773066 - 07/31/09 07:45 AM (14 years, 5 months ago)

if there was a serial rapist on the loose and they thought you might know or be in danger failing to answer would give them the right to come in no?


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Re: If thers a noise complaint and i dont open the doors for the cops can they kick it in?????? [Re: makaveli8x8]
    #10773300 - 07/31/09 08:49 AM (14 years, 5 months ago)

It's better to let them break in than to let them in. If they break in and decide to bust you for whatever reason you may have the 4th Amendment on your side. If you let them in you're forfeiting your 4th Amendment rights. (This is for Americans only) If you watch Cops they try to put everything into a question like, 'If you ain't got nothing to hide you don't mind if I look through your trunk, do you?' Say no. Once you let them in your home you open yourself up to all kinds of invasion and have less chance of getting out of it.


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You constantly make posts thatr fling middle school insults at people you don't like mixed in with maladjusted psychopathic comments about wanting to beat up the other poster with a crowbar.

You know how shit you are, you just don't give a fuck for precisely that reason.

I disendorse you.[/quote]


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Re: If thers a noise complaint and i dont open the doors for the cops can they kick it in?????? [Re: TheFakeSunRa]
    #10773437 - 07/31/09 09:20 AM (14 years, 5 months ago)

Ya, don't open the door if there's shit going on inside, just turn off the music and play Anne Frank till they leave.


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Re: If thers a noise complaint and i dont open the doors for the cops can they kick it in?????? [Re: fee]
    #10773475 - 07/31/09 09:25 AM (14 years, 5 months ago)

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fee said:
I think if the door is unlocked they may be able to open it but they cant kick it down




Let them walk into my house uninvited. I would be shooting towards the door like crazy screaming intruder!! If they are all dead then whos going to testify in court?


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Re: If thers a noise complaint and i dont open the doors for the cops can they kick it in?????? [Re: TheFakeSunRa]
    #10773518 - 07/31/09 09:33 AM (14 years, 5 months ago)

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It's better to let them break in then to let them in. If they break in and decide to bust you for whatever reason you may have the 4th Amendment on your side. If you let them in you're forfeiting your 4th Amendment rights. (This is for Americans only) If you watch Cops they try to put everything into a question like, 'If you ain't got nothing to hide you don't mind if I look through your trunk, do you?' Say no. Once you let them in your home you open yourself up to all kinds of invasion and have less chance of getting out of it.




Who said anything about letting them in.

If a cop comes to a party I'm hosting (which has happened once) I opened the door, stepped outside, and closed the door.

Granted I wasn't doing anything beyond drinking and there wasn't anything of mine in the house. They said "One of your neighbors called and they'd like you to turn down the music." I said "Okay they could have just asked me but yeah no problem officer."
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Re: If thers a noise complaint and i dont open the doors for the cops can they kick it in?????? [Re: jewunit]
    #10773697 - 07/31/09 10:03 AM (14 years, 5 months ago)

Coaster, when they come knock on your door....start blaring "were not going to take it!"


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Re: If thers a noise complaint and i dont open the doors for the cops can they kick it in?????? [Re: Coaster]
    #10773707 - 07/31/09 10:05 AM (14 years, 5 months ago)

It's already been said, but you don't have to open the door.  Just lock the doors (they should already be locked) and turn the music down and make chicks stop being loud until they leave.

The cops used to come to my 8 bedroom party house in college all the time, and someone would always let them in.  One of the times I got a disorderly conduct for a noise violation, even though we had 10 friends over tops and there was a raging party across the street.

Just because some drunk idiot opened the door.

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Re: If thers a noise complaint and i dont open the doors for the cops can they kick it in?????? [Re: Alan Rockefeller]
    #10773847 - 07/31/09 10:35 AM (14 years, 5 months ago)

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The police will not kick down your door for a noise complaint.




I don't know about other states, but that's not true in Oregon.  I was at a friend's house once, the music was pretty loud, and the cops got a noise complaint (actually not a noise complaint about my friends' place, but a different house down the block). When they arrived, they heard music blasting, knocked on my friends' door. No one answered, so they kicked the door down. They seized some schedule I's and took my friends who owned the place to jail for the night.

In court, the charges got dropped... not because it was illegal for them to kick down the door (apparently refusal to open the door constitutes probable cause, since anything illegal inside could be disposed of by the time they get a warrant). The charges were dropped because protocol dictates that they're required to videotape the incident when kicking down a door.


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Re: If thers a noise complaint and i dont open the doors for the cops can they kick it in?????? [Re: Entropymancer]
    #10773912 - 07/31/09 10:49 AM (14 years, 5 months ago)

i honestly think it depends on the cops. once they've been dispatched to a location, they have a lot of latitude in deciding what to do, not to mention how easily they can fabricate 'probable cause'. if the cop wants to come in, they will.

its probably best to go talk to them OUTSIDE your property; close the door quickly behind you. if its a yard party, try to talk to them in the street, or front of the house.


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Re: If thers a noise complaint and i dont open the doors for the cops can they kick it in?????? [Re: makaveli8x8]
    #10773945 - 07/31/09 10:56 AM (14 years, 5 months ago)

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if there was a serial rapist on the loose and they thought you might know or be in danger failing to answer would give them the right to come in no?





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Re: If thers a noise complaint and i dont open the doors for the cops can they kick it in?????? [Re: Entropymancer]
    #10773973 - 07/31/09 11:02 AM (14 years, 5 months ago)

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In court, the charges got dropped... not because it was illegal for them to kick down the door (apparently refusal to open the door constitutes probable cause, since anything illegal inside could be disposed of by the time they get a warrant).





for that to stand in court they would need to have reasonable
suspicions that there were drugs in the premises in the first
place, as the door was closed and I'm assuming there was no view
of people using drugs through the windows there was no evidence
of such, loud music and a refusal to open a door wouldnt
constitute probable cause in a case like that, it applies to
places that have been under observation for drug activity or
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Re: If thers a noise complaint and i dont open the doors for the cops can they kick it in?????? [Re: Taco Chef]
    #10774002 - 07/31/09 11:06 AM (14 years, 5 months ago)

holy shit Entropymancer! thats freaky

in cali you can stand at your window (shut) and talk to them
if they say you NEED to open your door
you can put your hands in the air (in front of the window) and state: "if you have a warrant, i'll stand right here, otherwise we can talk just fine thru this window"

you can even add "i'm sorry, but i don't open my door for police" just be honest, not sarcastic, make a stand, they will work with you, unless you really have it commin

if you open your door, you lose your rights
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Re: If thers a noise complaint and i dont open the doors for the cops can they kick it in?????? [Re: tektonic]
    #10774024 - 07/31/09 11:09 AM (14 years, 5 months ago)

I don't know about you guys but I don't just leave shit (edit: Illegal shit, my apartment is a fucking mess) strewn about my house.

Step outside, close the door, and talk to 'em. It's really not that hard and there's no reason to be a giant cock about everything.


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Re: If thers a noise complaint and i dont open the doors for the cops can they kick it in?????? [Re: tektonic]
    #10774036 - 07/31/09 11:11 AM (14 years, 5 months ago)

and for shit sake..... if they haven't already walked thru the front door....

LOCK your door..... you don't even know what bs they have pulled on me..... they don't need a warrant if "your door was open"

even if they are already knocking.... lock your door immediatly & nicely


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Re: If thers a noise complaint and i dont open the doors for the cops can they kick it in?????? [Re: tektonic]
    #10774330 - 07/31/09 12:10 PM (14 years, 5 months ago)

Never open the door for the police ,always keep the door locked.

  Talk to them thru the door.As soon as you open the door to step out and talk to them ,that means they can claim they smelled pot or saw something....even if they did not.
  Never ever ever open the door.You think they will treat you with respect,they could give a fuck less what you think of them.


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