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Is concrete the best thing for roads?
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I've noticed that in Minnesota, roads are constantly  under construction and I got to wondering if there is a better material to make roads out of than concrete? Perhaps something more durable/flexible?


Is anyone here knowledgable on this subject or maybe even a civil engineer?


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Re: Is concrete the best thing for roads? [Re: learningtofly]
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My brother is I'll ask him and if there isn't an answer by then I'll let you know what I find out.


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Re: Is concrete the best thing for roads? [Re: learningtofly]
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I don't think they are made of concrete...its asphalt that they are made out of, which is quite flexible and grips better.


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Re: Is concrete the best thing for roads? [Re: learningtofly]
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I would imagine it's the best thing that's affordable...  If it wasn't I would imagine they would have started using whatever else, so they wouldn't have to spend even more $ fixing it AGAIN the next time it wears down.

Ima Trooper said:
I don't think they are made of concrete...its asphalt that they are made out of, which is quite flexible and grips better.


Ya it's asphalt


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Re: Is concrete the best thing for roads? [Re: learningtofly]
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I'd be willing to bet it is better than asphalt.

The Autobahn in Germany is made of concrete, so I believe it is the best.


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Re: Is concrete the best thing for roads? [Re: niteowl]
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I think you're right.


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Re: Is concrete the best thing for roads? [Re: niteowl]
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Yeah but asphalt has rubber and shit in it, doesn't it? So the rubber from the tires would grip a rubbery road better than a concrete one, I would think. Might be wrong though, but it makes sense to me.


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Re: Is concrete the best thing for roads? [Re: Ima Trooper]
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just invent flying cars already jesus


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Re: Is concrete the best thing for roads? [Re: learningtofly]
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Concrete is more durable than asphalt but also costs more and is more time-consuming to install.


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Re: Is concrete the best thing for roads? [Re: MHbound]
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it really depends on the location, in colder areas concrete will
be more durable, in temperate zones like the south asphalt works
well for the cost, each has different characteristics that are
desirable, asphalt for instance will usually allow water to pass
through and has better expansion characteristics, concrete has to
allow water to run off and if a crack develops and freezing occurs
it expands the crack


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Re: Is concrete the best thing for roads? [Re: Ima Trooper]
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Yea, but concrete can be teatured to aid in grip.
Asphalt breaks down faster than concrete.
Making it a much better road builder IMO.

Again it is kinda hard to argue with the results from the Autobahn.


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Re: Is concrete the best thing for roads? [Re: learningtofly]
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learningtofly said:
I've noticed that in Minnesota, roads are constantly  under construction and I got to wondering if there is a better material to make roads out of than concrete? Perhaps something more durable/flexible?


Is anyone here knowledgable on this subject or maybe even a civil engineer?


Get the scientists working on the Tube technology immediately. *


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Re: Is concrete the best thing for roads? [Re: learningtofly]
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The reason it seems so bad in places like Minnesota (or Central New York where I grew up) is because it gets fucking unrelenting amounts of salt. Plus they can only do road work realistically for about 4-5 months a year. So that means they have to repair main roads every summer and they can't spread out the work like they do in places even just a bit further south.

It really fucking sucks.


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Re: Is concrete the best thing for roads? [Re: niteowl]
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niteowl said:
Asphalt breaks down faster than concrete.



in some areas, once it starts crumbling it's a major project to
remove it and replace it because patching doesnt work for long on
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Re: Is concrete the best thing for roads? [Re: jewunit]
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If Sarah Palin were president we'd have jet packs with shotgun racks within the year.


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Re: Is concrete the best thing for roads? [Re: niteowl]
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I just did some quick and dirty research online and it appears you're right. :thumbup:


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Re: Is concrete the best thing for roads? [Re: Prisoner#1]
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Prisoner#1 said:
niteowl said:
Asphalt breaks down faster than concrete.



in some areas, once it starts crumbling it's a major project to
remove it and replace it because patching doesnt work for long on
high traffic roads



We have a few concrete roads here in Arkansas. Mainly asphalt though.
IME the concrete roads don't get the potholes that asphalt does.
When it freezes in winter, by summer there are new cracks & bigger holes on the asphalt roads.

I rarely see potholes or cracks in the concrete roads.


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Re: Is concrete the best thing for roads? [Re: Ima Trooper]
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For a second i thought that was a reply to blewmeanie and i laughed.


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Re: Is concrete the best thing for roads? [Re: niteowl]
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Without knowing anything my guess is in states with relatively rough winters both asphalt and concrete roads need to be repaired/maintained and asphalt is cheaper to upkeep.


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Re: Is concrete the best thing for roads? [Re: niteowl]
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niteowl said:
Again it is kinda hard to argue with the results from the Autobahn.


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Re: Is concrete the best thing for roads? [Re: niteowl]
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niteowl said:
I rarely see potholes or cracks in the concrete roads.



down here it's mostly asphalt, I've not seen any potholes in 30
years other than when they're repairing something under the road


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Re: Is concrete the best thing for roads? [Re: Prisoner#1]
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We had a concrete road layed down and in under 5 years its already got gouges from where the cars travel so bad it pulls you around. I don't think they did it right or something.


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Re: Is concrete the best thing for roads? [Re: pmb]
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up north the roads get fucked up from the plow trucks more than the salt.  ive seen roads fucked up after only one year.  altho these are the same idiots that manage to hit mailboxes, curbs, and manholes


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Re: Is concrete the best thing for roads? [Re: Prisoner#1]
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Prisoner#1 said:
niteowl said:
I rarely see potholes or cracks in the concrete roads.



down here it's mostly asphalt, I've not seen any potholes in 30
years other than when they're repairing something under the road


Consider yourself lucky then.

Our interstates are made of concrete and I can't remember the last time I had issues driving on them.

The rest of the roads are either asphalt or dirt/gravel.
The main state highways are kept better than some of the side roads.
Our main problem in my area are all the log trucks.
In the summer the asphalt gets soft and the trucks make valleys in the roads.
When it rains, each lane has 2 rivers of water on them.

Any road that gets a lot of big trucks should be made of concrete IMO.
Sadly this is not the case around here :shake:
except for the interstate that is


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Re: Is concrete the best thing for roads? [Re: blewmeanie]
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blewmeanie said:
If Sarah Palin were president we'd have jet packs with shotgun racks within the year.


:rofl:


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Re: Is concrete the best thing for roads? [Re: niteowl]
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It doesn't really matter if you live in the south.
Salt, and like Makaveli said the plows, are really what take a toll on the roads.
I think larger temperature fluctuations hurt roads too. Going from below 0 to above freezing in a matter of a month creates stress from what I remember.


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Re: Is concrete the best thing for roads? [Re: niteowl]
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niteowl said:
Yea, but concrete can be teatured to aid in grip.
Asphalt breaks down faster than concrete.
Making it a much better road builder IMO.

Again it is kinda hard to argue with the results from the Autobahn.


The Autobahn has a 24/7, 365 repair crew that fixes cracks as soon as they are formed.  This is too expensive for most purposes.


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Re: Is concrete the best thing for roads? [Re: niteowl]
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niteowl said:
Any road that gets a lot of big trucks should be made of concrete IMO.



as I mentioned, when concrete starts to degrade it happens
pretty rappidly, one small crack can become a problem over a
single winter season, I've lived in several homes with concrete
driveways that lasted less than 20 year based on when the house
was built, one I lived in when I was a kid that I helped to pave
(really fucked up story there) that's more than 30 years old and
still intact

I cant even begin to tell you how many driveways and even roads
I've worked on doing repairs


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Re: Is concrete the best thing for roads? [Re: Prisoner#1]
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chain gang ftw


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Re: Is concrete the best thing for roads? [Re: niteowl]
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niteowl said:
Again it is kinda hard to argue with the results from the Autobahn.


Have you ever driven on the older parts of the autobahn that are concrete (the newer parts are asphalt) It's fucked!  The expansion joints cause a bump every twenty meters or so, it's all bump bump bump bump....  Sucks balls.


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Re: Is concrete the best thing for roads? [Re: Set]
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a tad off topic but i thought you guys would enjoy! i heard about this only a few weeks ago. i wanna go to it for the hell of it!


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Re: Is concrete the best thing for roads? [Re: learningtofly]
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learningtofly said:
For a second i thought that was a reply to blewmeanie and i laughed.



Same here. :lol:

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Re: Is concrete the best thing for roads? [Re: RupturedHernia]
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RupturedHernia said:
niteowl said:
Again it is kinda hard to argue with the results from the Autobahn.


Have you ever driven on the older parts of the autobahn that are concrete (the newer parts are asphalt) It's fucked!  The expansion joints cause a bump every twenty meters or so, it's all bump bump bump bump....  Sucks balls.


:lol:

The last time I was on the Autobahn was....well......probably '88ish

It was all concrete back then
as far as I know anyway


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Re: Is concrete the best thing for roads? [Re: RupturedHernia]
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RupturedHernia said:
niteowl said:
Again it is kinda hard to argue with the results from the Autobahn.


Have you ever driven on the older parts of the autobahn that are concrete (the newer parts are asphalt) It's fucked!  The expansion joints cause a bump every twenty meters or so, it's all bump bump bump bump....  Sucks balls.



We have concrete express ways in MI and I fucking hate that bump bump bump... you'd think I'd be used to it, but I don't think I ever will get to that point.


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Re: Is concrete the best thing for roads? [Re: niteowl]
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Only the old nazi built parts are concrete, it is a good surface but those expansion joints suck.


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