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Organic Food
    #10761614 - 07/29/09 12:37 PM (14 years, 5 months ago)

'Organic has no health benefits'

Organic food is no healthier than ordinary food, a large independent review has concluded.

There is little difference in nutritional value and no evidence of any extra health benefits from eating organic produce, UK researchers found.

The Food Standards Agency who commissioned the report said the findings would help people make an "informed choice".

But the Soil Association criticised the study and called for better research.

Researchers from the London School of Hygiene and Tropical Medicine looked at all the evidence on nutrition and health benefits from the past 50 years.

Among the 55 of 162 studies that were included in the final analysis, there were a small number of differences in nutrition between organic and conventionally produced food but not large enough to be of any public health relevance, said study leader Dr Alan Dangour.

Overall the report, which is published in the American Journal of Clinical Nutrition, found no differences in most nutrients in organically or conventionally grown crops, including in vitamin C, calcium, and iron.

The same was true for studies looking at meat, dairy and eggs.

Differences that were detected, for example in levels of nitrogen and phosphorus, were most likely to be due to differences in fertilizer use and ripeness at harvest and are unlikely to provide any health benefit, the report concluded.

Gill Fine, FSA director of consumer choice and dietary health, said: "Ensuring people have accurate information is absolutely essential in allowing us all to make informed choices about the food we eat.

"This study does not mean that people should not eat organic food.

"What it shows is that there is little, if any, nutritional difference between organic and conventionally produced food and that there is no evidence of additional health benefits from eating organic food."

She added that the FSA was neither pro nor anti organic food and recognised there were many reasons why people choose to eat organic, including animal welfare or environmental concerns.

Dr Dangour, said: "Our review indicates that there is currently no evidence to support the selection of organically over conventionally produced foods on the basis of nutritional superiority."

He added that better quality studies were needed.

Peter Melchett, policy director at the Soil Association said they were disappointed with the conclusions.

"The review rejected almost all of the existing studies of comparisons between organic and non-organic nutritional differences.

"Although the researchers say that the differences between organic and non-organic food are not 'important', due to the relatively few studies, they report in their analysis that there are higher levels of beneficial nutrients in organic compared to non-organic foods.

"Without large-scale, longitudinal research it is difficult to come to far-reaching clear conclusions on this, which was acknowledged by the authors of the FSA review.

"Also, there is not sufficient research on the long-term effects of pesticides on human health," he added.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/health/8174482.stm


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Re: Organic Food [Re: Chespirito]
    #10762412 - 07/29/09 03:01 PM (14 years, 5 months ago)

Chemicals are bad. Theres no getting past that.


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Re: Organic Food [Re: legallyhomeless]
    #10762561 - 07/29/09 03:21 PM (14 years, 5 months ago)

If you say so :thumbup:


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Re: Organic Food [Re: Chespirito]
    #10762728 - 07/29/09 03:47 PM (14 years, 5 months ago)

I don't like the antibiotics and hormones in my chicken and cow products.


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Re: Organic Food [Re: Existence]
    #10762736 - 07/29/09 03:49 PM (14 years, 5 months ago)

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Existence said:
I don't like the antibiotics and hormones in my chicken and cow products.




Why not?


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Re: Organic Food [Re: pmb]
    #10762821 - 07/29/09 04:04 PM (14 years, 5 months ago)

:shrug: cause.


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Re: Organic Food [Re: Existence]
    #10763081 - 07/29/09 04:45 PM (14 years, 5 months ago)

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I don't like the antibiotics and hormones in my chicken and cow products.




This is why 12 year old girls have huge boobs


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Re: Organic Food [Re: legallyhomeless]
    #10763247 - 07/29/09 05:10 PM (14 years, 5 months ago)

Shocker: Medical Research Frequently Bogus

http://www.naturalnews.com/026573_medical_research_drugs_cancer.html

Charges of fake research hit new high

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/8474936/



We all know how the DEA has used the Medical Establishment to misrepresent the effects of certain drugs. Anyone remember the study where they claimed MDMA was dimming the whole brain, only to later find that these bogus claims were the results from methamphetamine mislabled as mdma.

It's no big surprise that agribuisness would do just the same, and has been doing for quite some time. They fund actually MANY such studies, as a matter to PICK AND CHOOSE what they present to the american public. This is why we see studies that suggest absurd results such as MERCURY IS NOW GOOD FOR THE BRIAN.. If you believe that nonsense, why I've got some lead based fruitjuice I've got to sell you..


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Re: Organic Food [Re: DropScience]
    #10763369 - 07/29/09 05:33 PM (14 years, 5 months ago)

Nice redirection there, unfortunately for you its a logical fallacy, also this study was done in the UK.


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Re: Organic Food [Re: Chespirito]
    #10763796 - 07/29/09 06:54 PM (14 years, 5 months ago)

'Organic' for the loss.  Its a silly bandwagon people jump on; they want organic to be healthier so they believe organic is healthier.


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Re: Organic Food [Re: DieCommie]
    #10763849 - 07/29/09 07:03 PM (14 years, 5 months ago)

Yes I agree.  Although truthfully I do wonder if organic meats, particularly liver, is more safe.  This study as far as I can tell did not go into that (except for a single line in the article).  Id love to find out its no better however.


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Re: Organic Food [Re: Chespirito]
    #10764167 - 07/29/09 08:03 PM (14 years, 5 months ago)

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Chespirito said:
'Organic has no health benefits'

blah blah blah

"Also, there is not sufficient research on the long-term effects of pesticides on human health," he added.





You don't see anything wrong with this picture? You can't imagine that pesticides might have an effect on human health?

I think this article is pointless. Pesticides, antibiotics and hormones are the reasons I eat organic. All of these points are not addressed in the study, it looked only at nutritional differences.


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Re: Organic Food [Re: Existence]
    #10764213 - 07/29/09 08:14 PM (14 years, 5 months ago)

Yes that point was indeed said by the member of the organization designed to promote organic food (the Soil Association).  I'm not sure of the harm of pesticides, though I think that area of research has a body of work that is quite large.  We've been using pesticides for a long time and I know of numerous pesticides that were banned because of research done on them.  The ones we use now have passed those tests, that said Id have to investigate further to find recent studies.

This study is focusing on nutritional differences as you will hear a lot of times people talk about organic food as being notably higher in nutrition.  My roommate was a big user of that


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Re: Organic Food [Re: Chespirito]
    #10764273 - 07/29/09 08:27 PM (14 years, 5 months ago)

There is a list of the top twelve items that have the most pesticides. I try and get the organic varieties of those, mainly apples and bell peppers. That and I get hormone and antibiotic free chicken. The rest I don't care so much.

You have to think about the environment also.


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Re: Organic Food [Re: Existence]
    #10765670 - 07/30/09 12:33 AM (14 years, 5 months ago)

i buy organic when i can, because it is a more sustainable farming method + i would rather my money gets to people who care about the food they produce and the earth we live on, rather than monsanto or some such giant chemical co who is trying exterminate "natural." +

Organic tastes better alot of the time, and is probably grown closer to local...


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    #10765673 - 07/30/09 12:34 AM (14 years, 5 months ago)

Infact, not for one second have i thought of organic food as more nutrition dense, only as non organic food as chemically contaminated. Maybe that's how we should be looking at this...


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Re: Organic Food [Re: legallyhomeless]
    #10766623 - 07/30/09 06:03 AM (14 years, 5 months ago)

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Quote:

Existence said:
I don't like the antibiotics and hormones in my chicken and cow products.




This is why 12 year old girls have huge boobs




Lol man :lol:
Indeed, also they gives chicken hormones so they will produce much more fat and over feed them (same with ducks)


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Re: Organic Food [Re: dstark]
    #10766753 - 07/30/09 06:39 AM (14 years, 5 months ago)

Organic farming methods don't create nearly as much food as farming done with fertilizers and pest and weed control measures.  Personally, I like cheap and available food, and so do many poor people.


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Re: Organic Food [Re: Hypercube]
    #10767708 - 07/30/09 11:06 AM (14 years, 5 months ago)

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Organic farming methods don't create nearly as much food as farming done with fertilizers and pest and weed control measures.  Personally, I like cheap and available food, and so do many poor people.




:thumbup:  The more food we can get per acre the cheaper food is and the less old growth habitat needs to be cleared away for farmland.


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Re: Organic Food [Re: PDU]
    #10768644 - 07/30/09 01:37 PM (14 years, 5 months ago)

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Infact, not for one second have i thought of organic food as more nutrition dense, only as non organic food as chemically contaminated. Maybe that's how we should be looking at this...



Exactly.  It's not about organic food containing more nutrients.  It's about what it doesn't contain.  Not to mention that it's more sustainable for the environment.  Also, it tastes better.


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