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Re: Obama: Police who arrested professor 'acted stupidly' [Re: lonestar2004]
    #10726824 - 07/23/09 12:53 PM (14 years, 8 months ago)

they all look the same


who all looks the same?


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Re: Obama: Police who arrested professor 'acted stupidly' [Re: Taco Chef]
    #10727027 - 07/23/09 01:41 PM (14 years, 8 months ago)

i think you know what he meant. :thumbdown:


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Re: Obama: Police who arrested professor 'acted stupidly' [Re: lonestar2004]
    #10727103 - 07/23/09 01:54 PM (14 years, 8 months ago)

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Re: Obama: Police who arrested professor 'acted stupidly' [Re: lonestar2004]
    #10727357 - 07/23/09 02:45 PM (14 years, 8 months ago)

I don't know the specifics but the fact that this man is a Black Harvard Professor has nothing to do with the case.  The fact is that he was seen breaking into his house because he had no keys..  Neighbors called the cops and when they arrived they met a confrontational man who was uncooperative.

In no way should the cops have to put up with this mans attitude when all they were doing was trying to protect his assets.  I'm sure that the level of his attitude was enough to convince the cops that they had the right to cuff him and charge him. 

Ill bet anything that if we were to watch a video of the incident, even Obama would be embarrassed at how this prominent black Harvard professor acted.


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Re: Obama: Police who arrested professor 'acted stupidly' [Re: GabbaDj]
    #10727433 - 07/23/09 02:57 PM (14 years, 8 months ago)

From the below article:  "This suggests that something happened that should not have happened," Cambridge Mayor E. Denise Simmons said on CNN's "American Morning." "The situation is certainly unfortunate. This can't happen again in Cambridge."


What can't happen again in Cambridge?  No one can ever be arrested on a disorderly persons charge?  This whole thing is beyond ridiculous; based on the police report (which I believe is accurate) the officer followed protocol, and was actually walking away to leave the scene, but Gates wouldn't stop screaming at him, even insulting his mother.

Gates is claiming racism, but he's the one injected race into this whole mess.  Gates called the police officer a racist when the police officer initially arrived on the scene and asked to see ID.  This is completely unacceptable, and, while I'm not a fan of LEO's in general, the spotlight should be on Gates, not this cop.  The police officer should be calling Gates a racist, and not vice versa.



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Re: Obama: Police who arrested professor 'acted stupidly' [Re: GabbaDj]
    #10727449 - 07/23/09 03:00 PM (14 years, 8 months ago)

He isn't just a professor of any old bullshit.  He headed the African American studies department for many years.  He is a well trained racialist grievance monger of the highest sort.  Meanwhile the cop, apparently, has been running and teaching anti-profiling seminars for years.
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20090723/ap_on_re_us/us_harvard_scholar_disorderly_51

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CAMBRIDGE, Mass. – The white police sergeant criticized by President Barack Obama for arresting black scholar Henry Louis Gates Jr. in his Massachusetts home is a police academy expert on understanding racial profiling.

Cambridge Sgt. James Crowley has taught a class about racial profiling for five years at the Lowell Police Academy after being hand-picked for the job by former police Commissioner Ronny Watson, who is black, said Academy Director Thomas Fleming.

"I have nothing but the highest respect for him as a police officer. He is very professional and he is a good role model for the young recruits in the police academy," Fleming told The Associated Press on Thursday.

The course, called "Racial Profiling," teaches about different cultures that officers could encounter in their community "and how you don't want to single people out because of their ethnic background or the culture they come from," Fleming said.

Obama has said the Cambridge officers "acted stupidly" in arresting Gates last week when they responded to his house after a woman reported a suspected break-in.

Crowley, 42, has maintained he did nothing wrong and has refused to apologize, as Gates has demanded.

Crowley responded to Gates' home near Harvard University last week to investigate a report of a burglary and demanded Gates show him identification. Police say Gates at first refused, flew into a rage and accused the officer of racism.




I think it's pretty clear who the bullshit artist is here.  Piled higher and Deeper.


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Re: Obama: Police who arrested professor 'acted stupidly' [Re: Gogol]
    #10727548 - 07/23/09 03:14 PM (14 years, 8 months ago)

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From the below article:  "This suggests that something happened that should not have happened," Cambridge Mayor E. Denise Simmons said on CNN's "American Morning." "The situation is certainly unfortunate. This can't happen again in Cambridge."


What can't happen again in Cambridge?  No one can ever be arrested on a disorderly persons charge?  This whole thing is beyond ridiculous; based on the police report (which I believe is accurate) the officer followed protocol, and was actually walking away to leave the scene, but Gates wouldn't stop screaming at him, even insulting his mother.

Gates is claiming racism, but he's the one injected race into this whole mess.  Gates called the police officer a racist when the police officer initially arrived on the scene and asked to see ID.  This is completely unacceptable, and, while I'm not a fan of LEO's in general, the spotlight should be on Gates, not this cop.  The police officer should be calling Gates a racist, and not vice versa.



http://www.cnn.com/2009/US/07/23/gates.arrest.mayor/index.html





Exactly.  Also, dropping the charges was a big mistake.  The guy was out of line and he is not going to let this go.  He should have to go in front of a judge and learn the hard way that his actions were not appropriate and racism had nothing to do with this at all.


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Re: Obama: Police who arrested professor 'acted stupidly' [Re: Therian]
    #10727642 - 07/23/09 03:30 PM (14 years, 8 months ago)

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Um, if you haven't noticed, they all look the same.




Grow up, child.

I know your white persecution syndrome is easy to have when you're worthless at pretty much everything in life, but c'mon now.  The ignorance and stupidity is just kind of blinding.

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Re: Obama: Police who arrested professor 'acted stupidly' [Re: zappaisgod]
    #10727761 - 07/23/09 03:51 PM (14 years, 8 months ago)

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Cambridge Sgt. James Crowley has taught a class about racial profiling for five years at the Lowell Police Academy after being hand-picked for the job by former police Commissioner Ronny Watson, who is black, said Academy Director Thomas Fleming.







This story just keeps getting better and better.


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Re: Obama: Police who arrested professor 'acted stupidly' [Re: lonestar2004]
    #10728523 - 07/23/09 06:16 PM (14 years, 8 months ago)

OBAMA TELLS IT HOW IT IS
check it out new news footage of him responding to his earlier statement
youtube.com/watch?v=ju1V7k0XnEI&videos=U35TTd05Akw&playnext_from=TL&playnext=1

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Re: Obama: Police who arrested professor 'acted stupidly' [Re: lonestar2004]
    #10728577 - 07/23/09 06:29 PM (14 years, 8 months ago)

> Obama said, "I don't know, not having been there ...

Which begs the quesiton, why the f@#$ are you making a comment if you don't know?


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Re: Obama: Police who arrested professor 'acted stupidly' [Re: Seuss]
    #10728634 - 07/23/09 06:37 PM (14 years, 8 months ago)

That is pretty much his entire performance.


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Re: Obama: Police who arrested professor 'acted stupidly' [Re: zappaisgod]
    #10730355 - 07/23/09 11:34 PM (14 years, 8 months ago)

Ooh no, I've been called a child AND been given the angry french fry face, for what shall I do? Actually I think I could use your help. I am attempting to over a new leaf and drop my "racist" ways and rid myself of this white persecution syndrome. I would like to become a highly respected, world renowned, civil rights leader and humanitarian. Much like the ones we have now that meet with foreign leaders and also have the ear of the president of the united states. I would like to fight for the rights of the common man and ensure equality in our society.

The quandary I find myself having is which well respected non-biased, non partisan, leader to emulate. I know there are several that the black community has canonized. I know saying they all look alike is sooo horrible, so what do I have to do to lose my evil racist ways and become one of these great leaders?

I thought about perhaps emulating Farrakhan or perhaps the civil rights icon Jesse Jackson. I guess I'll have to drop the looking alike comment and just come out like they have and call all whites blue eyed devils, of course the Jews are nothing but bloodsucking parasites, they are Satan himself, they are nothing but Himies living in Himie town. Blacks then need to "storm the white house" to "get their own country established".  But I'm dismayed, I thought segregation was a white racist ideal, why would these wonderful non-racist leaders condone this?

Then I though about modeling myself after the Rev. Sharpton, you know the one who now works with Obama, visits him at the white house, the one Obama said that he is friends with and has supported his national action network. I guess my frail statements wont be enough. I'm going to have to call congressmen "nigger whores" or call whites "cracker whores, recycled white trash, etc." I'll have to find a way to get a young girl naked, shove her in a garbage bag and cover her with dog shit. Then I can blame white congressmen, District attorneys and cops for the "crime" of battery, gang rape, etc. I'll just drop the derogatory  Jew banter as it is too numerous to mention. I will just incite violence amongst my followers and have them burn many people alive, shoot others, and of course stab an innocent Jew bastard to death on the streets.

I can stand outside the courthouse when the central park jogger victim is in court and call her a lying white whore. I can scream that she is a racist because obviously her boyfriend did it. Of course there were other cracker whores that were mangled and slashed by black perps, but they too were racist, and the blacks were innocent, regardless of the eyewitnesses. But once again I'm dismayed I thought those preaching tolerance,equality, and non racist behaviors would not call others cracker whores,Satan, jew bastards, white trash etc.

Well there is always M.L.King. The problem is that he would embezzle contribution money meant for the civil right cause and buy alcohol and hookers with it, committing adultery continuously on his sex parties. As a matter of fact on his last night alive he screwed two hookers and beat the shit out of another. Also since I have already received my degree, I can't therefore completely plagiarize my doctorate dissertation as did he. I could be like Gores campaign manager and call all congressmen "white boys" but its ok blacks can't be racists. And these are the civil rights "heroes" that blacks look up to, and kids in school are meant to revere?

As for white persecution, I don't know what to say. Minorities have been given preferences when it comes to admissions to college, acquiring jobs, attaining government contracts, and so on. Simply based on the color of their skin. Didn't MLK himself say people should be judged by content of character vs. skin color? Now I'm really confused, it seems like a contradiction to what this great civil rights leader had in mind. All this is done at the expense of white candidates that usually score higher and are more capable than those given special consideration. If not, then why do they need these preference points?

The ex secretary of labor and adviser of Obama R.Reich stated that he didn't want to see the stimulus money going to white construction workers. But I though Obama was looking for racial equality? Can you imagine if Bush called out a particular race that he didn't want to see get money from the stim package. Holy shit, yes I want everyone to foot the bill for the stimulus package, but I don't want to see any white males receiving any benefits from it. You know it is because white construction workers have always had so much cash, political clout, and influence that they need to be reigned in. Are these whites not being persecuted based solely on their skin color?


It's ironic that redstorm,with limited intellectual acuity would bring up a persecution issue. When this Harvard prof got in the cops face and began belittling him, and taunting him what did he think would happen? Then when he gets arrested he squeals about being persecuted, and racism, and being guilty of the crime of being black in America. Same cry racism/be the perpetrator and victim simultaneously negro bullshit.


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Grow up, child.

I know your white persecution syndrome is easy to have when you're worthless at pretty much everything in life, but c'mon now.  The ignorance and stupidity is just kind of blinding.


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I've noticed you like to call other people children quite frequently, often with nothing to add. It seems you are the one with some sort of complex. Doing so doesn't make you seem worldly, wise, or intelligent, it just seems your trying too hard.

And no redstorm, I can't tell them apart and I have no desire to do so. Perhaps you may have the need, as I'm sure 3or4 of your boyfriends are most likely black, when you can tell them apart and call them by name does it make them feel special??  When you are on all fours to service them and they are lined up behind you does it really matter?

No I wouldn't say I'm worthless at everything in life, there are some things I'm very good at, just go out on the porch and ask your mama, she'll tell you so. Just be sure to give her the chance to swallow first.

Please, oh please not another angry french fry or your evil condescending tone.

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Re: Obama: Police who arrested professor 'acted stupidly' [Re: Therian]
    #10731141 - 07/24/09 03:13 AM (14 years, 8 months ago)

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Ooh no, I've been called a child AND been given the angry french fry face, for what shall I do? Actually I think I could use your help. I am attempting to over a new leaf and drop my "racist" ways and rid myself of this white persecution syndrome. I would like to become a highly respected, world renowned, civil rights leader and humanitarian. Much like the ones we have now that meet with foreign leaders and also have the ear of the president of the united states. I would like to fight for the rights of the common man and ensure equality in our society.

The quandary I find myself having is which well respected non-biased, non partisan, leader to emulate. I know there are several that the black community has canonized. I know saying they all look alike is sooo horrible, so what do I have to do to lose my evil racist ways and become one of these great leaders?

I thought about perhaps emulating Farrakhan or perhaps the civil rights icon Jesse Jackson. I guess I'll have to drop the looking alike comment and just come out like they have and call all whites blue eyed devils, of course the Jews are nothing but bloodsucking parasites, they are Satan himself, they are nothing but Himies living in Himie town. Blacks then need to "storm the white house" to "get their own country established".  But I'm dismayed, I thought segregation was a white racist ideal, why would these wonderful non-racist leaders condone this?

Then I though about modeling myself after the Rev. Sharpton, you know the one who now works with Obama, visits him at the white house, the one Obama said that he is friends with and has supported his national action network. I guess my frail statements wont be enough. I'm going to have to call congressmen "nigger whores" or call whites "cracker whores, recycled white trash, etc." I'll have to find a way to get a young girl naked, shove her in a garbage bag and cover her with dog shit. Then I can blame white congressmen, District attorneys and cops for the "crime" of battery, gang rape, etc. I'll just drop the derogatory  Jew banter as it is too numerous to mention. I will just incite violence amongst my followers and have them burn many people alive, shoot others, and of course stab an innocent Jew bastard to death on the streets.

I can stand outside the courthouse when the central park jogger victim is in court and call her a lying white whore. I can scream that she is a racist because obviously her boyfriend did it. Of course there were other cracker whores that were mangled and slashed by black perps, but they too were racist, and the blacks were innocent, regardless of the eyewitnesses. But once again I'm dismayed I thought those preaching tolerance,equality, and non racist behaviors would not call others cracker whores,Satan, jew bastards, white trash etc.

Well there is always M.L.King. The problem is that he would embezzle contribution money meant for the civil right cause and buy alcohol and hookers with it, committing adultery continuously on his sex parties. As a matter of fact on his last night alive he screwed two hookers and beat the shit out of another. Also since I have already received my degree, I can't therefore completely plagiarize my doctorate dissertation as did he. I could be like Gores campaign manager and call all congressmen "white boys" but its ok blacks can't be racists. And these are the civil rights "heroes" that blacks look up to, and kids in school are meant to revere?

As for white persecution, I don't know what to say. Minorities have been given preferences when it comes to admissions to college, acquiring jobs, attaining government contracts, and so on. Simply based on the color of their skin. Didn't MLK himself say people should be judged by content of character vs. skin color? Now I'm really confused, it seems like a contradiction to what this great civil rights leader had in mind. All this is done at the expense of white candidates that usually score higher and are more capable than those given special consideration. If not, then why do they need these preference points?

The ex secretary of labor and adviser of Obama R.Reich stated that he didn't want to see the stimulus money going to white construction workers. But I though Obama was looking for racial equality? Can you imagine if Bush called out a particular race that he didn't want to see get money from the stim package. Holy shit, yes I want everyone to foot the bill for the stimulus package, but I don't want to see any white males receiving any benefits from it. You know it is because white construction workers have always had so much cash, political clout, and influence that they need to be reigned in. Are these whites not being persecuted based solely on their skin color?


It's ironic that redstorm,with limited intellectual acuity would bring up a persecution issue. When this Harvard prof got in the cops face and began belittling him, and taunting him what did he think would happen? Then when he gets arrested he squeals about being persecuted, and racism, and being guilty of the crime of being black in America. Same cry racism/be the perpetrator and victim simultaneously negro bullshit.


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Grow up, child.

I know your white persecution syndrome is easy to have when you're worthless at pretty much everything in life, but c'mon now.  The ignorance and stupidity is just kind of blinding.


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I've noticed you like to call other people children quite frequently, often with nothing to add. It seems you are the one with some sort of complex. Doing so doesn't make you seem worldly, wise, or intelligent, it just seems your trying too hard.

And no redstorm, I can't tell them apart and I have no desire to do so. Perhaps you may have the need, as I'm sure 3or4 of your boyfriends are most likely black, when you can tell them apart and call them by name does it make them feel special??  When you are on all fours to service them and they are lined up behind you does it really matter?

No I wouldn't say I'm worthless at everything in life, there are some things I'm very good at, just go out on the porch and ask your mama, she'll tell you so. Just be sure to give her the chance to swallow first.

Please, oh please not another angry french fry or your evil condescending tone.



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Re: Obama: Police who arrested professor 'acted stupidly' [Re: doodoomaster]
    #10731261 - 07/24/09 03:56 AM (14 years, 8 months ago)

What I want to know is why Obama even commented on this incident. It's not his job to watch over these tiny events, he has to look at the entire picture, statistics. What is he gonna voice his opinion on EVERY arrest for his entire presidency? Is he gonna come to my house and tell me I'm not cooking my steak right? I get it, your black, people are racist, but he fucking jumped at the chance to defend a black guy who from what I can tell in the report was being the stupid one. The exact same thing would happen to ANYONE who proceeded to yell at a cop in a public setting.

I guess I can kind of understand what Obama is trying to do. Hes trying to make us all disgusted with our selfs for letting racist things happen. He did it at the wrong incident though.

If a cop came to MY door after saying there was a reported burglary call I wouldn't say fuck you this is my house. I would be more courteous of someone who was looking out for the safety of my fucking house.

I would have expected more of a Harvard professor.

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Re: Obama: Police who arrested professor 'acted stupidly' [Re: lowsodium]
    #10731321 - 07/24/09 04:44 AM (14 years, 8 months ago)

> What I want to know is why Obama even commented on this incident.

To show the black people that voted for that he was still one of them and can empathize with their struggles.  Always gotta look out for that next election...

The sad thing is that is how cops behave, regardless of skin color.  If I had been the one giving the cop attitude, he would have done the same thing to me.  Obama could have made this a real issue about police overstepping their authority if he had dropped the race card.  Instead, he made it about race and not about police behavior in general.  As Zappa said, more or less, typical of this waste of a president.


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Re: Obama: Police who arrested professor 'acted stupidly' [Re: Seuss]
    #10731478 - 07/24/09 06:14 AM (14 years, 8 months ago)

The cop said he asked him to step outside for his own safety
thats fucked up
he forced a man outside his own home
wut a douche bag move


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Re: Obama: Police who arrested professor 'acted stupidly' [Re: Coaster]
    #10731602 - 07/24/09 07:00 AM (14 years, 8 months ago)

He didn't force him anywhere.  The cop was getting uncomfortable because with the asshole yelling at him inside he couldn't radio.  Cops are trained to be wary of apparently deranged assholes and that is most definitely what the race baiting punk Gates was.  Throw in Gates' class warfare remark "Do you know who I am?" and you clearly have a case of criminal douchery.  He was interfering with a police officer doing his job, i.e. investigating a reported break-in.

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Re: Obama: Police who arrested professor 'acted stupidly' [Re: Therian]
    #10731791 - 07/24/09 08:13 AM (14 years, 8 months ago)

so are you part of the stormfront out-reach program?


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Re: Obama: Police who arrested professor 'acted stupidly' [Re: Therian]
    #10731962 - 07/24/09 09:23 AM (14 years, 8 months ago)

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***whole bunch of racist shit***




Wow...just, wow.

Am I correct in thinking you don't believe you're a racist person?

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