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Obama: Police who arrested professor 'acted stupidly'
    #10725998 - 07/23/09 11:22 AM (12 years, 2 months ago)

(CNN) -- President Obama said that police in Cambridge, Massachusetts, "acted stupidly" in arresting a prominent black Harvard professor last week after a confrontation at the man's home.

"I don't know, not having been there and not seeing all the facts, what role race played," Obama said.


I think it's fair to say, No. 1, any of us would be pretty angry; No. 2, that the Cambridge police acted stupidly in arresting somebody when there was already proof that they were in their own home; and, No. 3 ... that there's a long history in this country of African-Americans and Latinos being stopped by law enforcement disproportionately."

The incident, Obama said, shows "how race remains a factor in this society."

Crowley wrote in the Cambridge police report that Gates refused to step outside to speak with him, the police report said, and when Crowley told Gates that he was investigating a possible break-in, Gates opened the front door and exclaimed, "Why, because I'm a black man in America?" the report said.

The report said Gates initially refused to show the officer identification, but eventually produced a Harvard identification card, prompting Crowley to radio for Harvard University Police.


While I was led to believe that Gates was lawfully in the residence, I was quite surprised and confused with the behavior he exhibited toward me," Crowley said, according to the report.

Gates was arrested for "loud and tumultuous behavior in a public space" and was released from police custody after spending four hours at the police station.


He told CNN on Wednesday that although charges had been dropped, he will keep the issue alive.

http://www.cnn.com/2009/US/07/22/harvard.gates.interview/index.html?eref=rss_topstories



what is Obama saying?

that black men should not have to show police there proof of residence when responding to a burglary call?


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Re: Obama: Police who arrested professor 'acted stupidly' [Re: lonestar2004]
    #10726014 - 07/23/09 11:27 AM (12 years, 2 months ago)

Boston Globe Scrubs Henry Louis Gates Arrest Report From Website


the police report describing Gates’s hysterical behaviour has apparently disappeared from the Boston Globe site. Strange, don’t you think?


Strange, perhaps, but not really surprising since, despite the assertion yesterday by President Barack Obama that the Cambridge police department acted "stupidly," one might think differently after reading the full police report. Here are a few excerpts from the report by arresting officer, James Crowley:

On Thursday July 16, 2009, Henry Gates, Jr. - -, of Ware Street, Cambridge, MA) was placed under arrest at Ware Street, after being observed exhibiting loud and tumultuous behavior, in a public place, directed at a uniformed police officer who was present investigating a report of a crime in progress. These actions on the behalf of Gates served no legitimate purpose and caused citizens passing by this location to stop and take notice while appearing surprised and alarmed.

...When I arrived at Ware Street I radioed ECC and asked that they have the caller meet me at the front door to this residence. I was told that the caller was already outside. As I was getting this information, I climbed the porch stairs toward the front door. As [reached the door, a female voice called out to me. I looked in the direction of the voice and observed a white female, later identified {} who was standing on the sidewalk in front of the residence, held a wireless telephone in her hand arid told me that it was she who called. She went on to tell me that she observed what appeared to be two black males with backpacks on the porch of• Ware Street. She told me that her suspicions were aroused when she observed one of the men wedging his shoulder into the door as if he was trying to force entry. Since I was the only police officer on location and had my back to the front door as I spoke with her, I asked that she wait for other responding officers while I investigated further.

As I turned and faced the door, I could see an older black male standing in the foyer of {} Ware Street. I made this observation through the glass paned front door. As I stood in plain view of this man, later identified as Gates, I asked if he would step out onto the porch and speak with me. He replied “no I will not”. He then demanded to know who I was. I told him that I was “Sgt. Crowley from the Cambridge Police” and that I was “investigating a report of a break in progress” at the residence. While I was making this statement, Gates opened the front door and exclaimed “why, because I’m a black man in America?”. I then asked Gates if there was anyone else in the residence. While yelling, he told me that it was none of my business and accused me of being a racist police officer. I assured Gates that I was responding to a citizen’s call to the Cambridge Police and that the caller was outside as we spoke. Gates seemed to ignore me and picked up a cordless telephone and dialed an unknown telephone number. As he did so, I radioed on channel I that I was off in the residence with someone who appeared to be a resident but very uncooperative. I then overheard Gates asking the person on the other end of his telephone call to “get the chief’ and “whats the chiefs name?’. Gates was telling the person on the other end of the call that he was dealing with a racist police officer in his home. Gates then turned to me and told me that I had no idea who I was “messing” with and that I had not heard the last of it. While I was led to believe that Gates was lawfully in the residence, I was quite surprised and confused with the behavior he exhibited toward me. I asked Gates to provide me with photo identification so that I could verify that he resided at Ware Street and so that I could radio my findings to ECC. Gates initially refused, demanding that I show him identification but then did supply me with a Harvard University identification card. Upon learning that Gates was affiliated with Harvard, I radioed and requested the presence of the Harvard University Police.

With the Harvard University identification in hand, I radioed my findings to ECC on channel two and prepared to leave. Gates again asked for my name which I began to provide. Gates began to yell over my spoken words by accusing me of being a racist police officer and leveling threats that he wasn’t someone to mess with. At some point during this exchange, I became aware that Off. Carlos Figueroa was standing behind me. When Gates asked a third time for my name, I explained to him that I had provided it at his request two separate times. Gates continued to yell at me. I told Gates that I was leaving his residence and that if he had any other questions regarding the matter, I would speak with him outside of the residence.

As I began walking through the foyer toward the front door, I could hear Gates agai,n demanding my name. I again told Gates that I would speak with him outside. My reason for wanting to leave the residence was that Gates was yelling very loud and the acoustics of the kitchen and foyer were making it difficult for me to transmit pertinent information to ECC or other responding units. His reply was “ya, I’ll speak with your mama outside”. When I left the residence, I noted that there were several Cambridge and Harvard University police officers assembled on the sidewalk in front of the residence. Additionally, the caller, md at least seven unidentified passers-by were looking in the direction of Gates, who had followed me outside of the residence.

As I descended the stairs to the sidewalk, Gates continued to yell at me, accusing me of racial bias and continued to tell me that I had not heard the last of him. Due to the tumultuous manner Gates had exhibited in his residence as well as his continued tumultuous behavior outside the residence, in view of the public, I warned Gates that he was becoming disorderly. Gates ignored my warning and continued to yell, which drew the attention of both the police officers and citizens, who appeared surprised and alarmed by Gates’s outburst. For a second time I warned Gates to calm down while I withdrew my department issued handcuffs from their carrying case. Gates again ignored my warning and continued to yell at me. It was at this time that I informed Gates that he was under arrest. I then stepped up the stairs, onto the porch and attempted to place handcuffs on Gates. Gates initially resisted my attempt to handcuff him, yelling that he was “disabled” and would fall without his cane. After the handcuffs were property applied, Gates complained that they were too tight. I ordered Off. Ivey, who was among the responding officers, to handcuff Gates with his arms in front of him for his comfort while I secured a cane for Gates from within the residence. I then asked Gates if he would like an officer to take possession of his house key and secure his front door, which he left wide open. Gates told me that the door was un securable due to a previous break attempt at the residence. Shortly thereafter, a Harvard University maintenance person arrived on scene and appeared familiar with Gates. I asked Gates if he was comfortable with this Harvard University maintenance person securing his residence. He told me that he was.


Not a very pretty picture of the highly abusive Gates was painted here. And this is probably why the Boston Globe felt it had to remove the police report from its website







http://newsbusters.org/blogs/p-j-gladnick/2009/07/23/boston-globe-scrubs-henry-louis-gates-arrest-report-website


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Re: Obama: Police who arrested professor 'acted stupidly' [Re: lonestar2004]
    #10726265 - 07/23/09 12:41 PM (12 years, 2 months ago)



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Re: Obama: Police who arrested professor 'acted stupidly' [Re: Taco Chef]
    #10726319 - 07/23/09 12:57 PM (12 years, 2 months ago)

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this is your rebuttal to

Obama: "I Don’t Know All The Facts But The Cops Acted Stupidly"


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Re: Obama: Police who arrested professor 'acted stupidly' [Re: lonestar2004]
    #10726331 - 07/23/09 01:02 PM (12 years, 2 months ago)

yes; you're posting a meaningless thread about a few words to a question that shouldn't even have been asked at a news conference. OMG the president said some police acted stupidly, which they did.

the only reason you're posting this is to try and stir up white resentment...and i'm sure the other freepers on the site will soon chime in and act hysterical over this meaningless sound bite.


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Re: Obama: Police who arrested professor 'acted stupidly' [Re: Taco Chef]
    #10726360 - 07/23/09 01:11 PM (12 years, 2 months ago)

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yes; you're posting a meaningless thread about a few words to a question that shouldn't even have been asked at a news conference. OMG the president said some police acted stupidly, which they did.

the only reason you're posting this is to try and stir up white resentment...and i'm sure the other freepers on the site will soon chime in and act hysterical over this meaningless sound bite.





how did the Police act stupidly?


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Re: Obama: Police who arrested professor 'acted stupidly' [Re: Taco Chef]
    #10726378 - 07/23/09 01:15 PM (12 years, 2 months ago)

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yes; you're posting a meaningless thread about a few words to a question that shouldn't even have been asked at a news conference. OMG the president said some police acted stupidly, which they did.




Really?  Not from what I read.  Some elitist Harvard twat got all classist with a cop checking out a reported break in.  He channeled his inner Al Sharpton and started yelling racist.  But what is of more import is that the idiot President said he didn't know what happened and then went on.  He's a stupid man with prejudged notions of any conflict between a black man and a cop.
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the only reason you're posting this is to try and stir up white resentment...and i'm sure the other freepers on the site will soon chime in and act hysterical over this meaningless sound bite.




President Stupid should not be passing judgment on any local police matter, especially ones he knows nothing about involving his race baiting friends.  He, by the sheer weight of his office, prejudices any following legal matter.  Previous Presidents knew this.  Even ones who weren't lawyers, although Nixon did fuck up with Manson.


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Re: Obama: Police who arrested professor 'acted stupidly' [Re: lonestar2004]
    #10726381 - 07/23/09 01:16 PM (12 years, 2 months ago)

Quote:

lonestar2004 said:
Quote:

novumorganum said:
yes; you're posting a meaningless thread about a few words to a question that shouldn't even have been asked at a news conference. OMG the president said some police acted stupidly, which they did.

the only reason you're posting this is to try and stir up white resentment...and i'm sure the other freepers on the site will soon chime in and act hysterical over this meaningless sound bite.





how did the Police act stupidly?




He arrested a guy on his own porch for disorderly conduct because he was raising his voice. You don't find that fucked up? They even dropped the charges because it was clearly stupid to arrest him. Disorderly conduct is bullshit and should done away with as a crime.

Sure, the guy was a dumb nagger but the cops should have just left the guy's property.


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Re: Obama: Police who arrested professor 'acted stupidly' [Re: d33p]
    #10726388 - 07/23/09 01:17 PM (12 years, 2 months ago)

of course they find it fucked up. but any excuse to try and attack the president.


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Re: Obama: Police who arrested professor 'acted stupidly' [Re: Taco Chef]
    #10726422 - 07/23/09 01:24 PM (12 years, 2 months ago)

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of course they find it fucked up. but any excuse to try and attack the president.




Well, obama's reply was retarded. We already know Obama's retarded but there's no reason not to call him out on this. It was one of the more insignificant things he said that night though.


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Re: Obama: Police who arrested professor 'acted stupidly' [Re: d33p]
    #10726427 - 07/23/09 01:25 PM (12 years, 2 months ago)

i see your point but gates was obviously being an ass.


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Re: Obama: Police who arrested professor 'acted stupidly' [Re: lonestar2004]
    #10726446 - 07/23/09 01:30 PM (12 years, 2 months ago)

we all would be acting the same way in that situation. i don't feel like i need to prove to the cops that i own the house i live in...

the real person in the story with a problem is the neighbor who called 911.

edit: i mean, how do you not know who your neighbors are?


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Re: Obama: Police who arrested professor 'acted stupidly' [Re: Taco Chef]
    #10726492 - 07/23/09 01:40 PM (12 years, 2 months ago)

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we all would be acting the same way in that situation. i don't feel like i need to prove to the cops that i own the house i live in...

the real person in the story with a problem is the neighbor who called 911.

edit: i mean, how do you not know who your neighbors are?




They were breaking into the house...

After the fact, Gates said he was glad the cops were called and came to investigate.


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Re: Obama: Police who arrested professor 'acted stupidly' [Re: d33p]
    #10726502 - 07/23/09 01:42 PM (12 years, 2 months ago)

all im saying is wouldn't you be able to tell your neighbor apart from random strangers?


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    #10726522 - 07/23/09 01:45 PM (12 years, 2 months ago)

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all im saying is wouldn't you be able to tell your neighbor apart from random strangers?




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Re: Obama: Police who arrested professor 'acted stupidly' [Re: d33p]
    #10726536 - 07/23/09 01:48 PM (12 years, 2 months ago)

don't go outside much?


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Re: Obama: Police who arrested professor 'acted stupidly' [Re: Taco Chef]
    #10726577 - 07/23/09 01:56 PM (12 years, 2 months ago)

just moved

But I don't care to know my neighbors anyways.


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Re: Obama: Police who arrested professor 'acted stupidly' [Re: Taco Chef]
    #10726669 - 07/23/09 02:15 PM (12 years, 2 months ago)

Quote:

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the real person in the story with a problem is the neighbor who called 911.

edit: i mean, how do you not know who your neighbors are?





i thought the same thing! :grin: but then i know people just like d33p.


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Re: Obama: Police who arrested professor 'acted stupidly' [Re: lonestar2004]
    #10726751 - 07/23/09 02:33 PM (12 years, 2 months ago)

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all I'm saying is wouldn't you be able to tell your neighbor apart from random strangers?




Um, if you haven't noticed, they all look the same. Pissed because you have to prove to the cops you live there? Someone saw a guy breaking into a house, the cops were called, and he was asked to prove he lived there. Whats wrong with that? If he was the perp and the cops didn't ask him for his identification and he went on to rob the place, then I'm sure they would be held accountable also.

If cops are no longer able to ask someone who was seen breaking into a house for id then I'm going to start breaking into houses. Uh officer this is my house, I don't care if the neighbors saw me breaking into it, no I won't prove I live here, now go away, bitch ass honkey, racist 5/0, why U gotsa be sweatin' a naggah? I'm sure if the prof was white this wouldn't even have made the news, then again, I'm sure a white prof wouldn't have immediately called him a racist, done the negro I'm persecuted song and dance, and told him what to do with his mama.

By the way what difference does it make that this asswipe taught at Harvard? Like it makes any difference, as if he can't be a typical loudmouth jackass negro due to his place of employment. Hell I believe Marian Barry has a doctorate in organic chemistry. Yet he gets busted for corruption, taking kickbacks, stalking, and smoking crack with a whore at motel 6. Nigga Pleeeze!!

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Re: Obama: Police who arrested professor 'acted stupidly' [Re: Therian]
    #10726814 - 07/23/09 02:49 PM (12 years, 2 months ago)

The officer then asked Gates to come out onto the front porch and talk with him and the HARVARD professor was reported to have said, “No, I will not!” and,

“I’ll speak with your mama outside!”


:rofl2:


is that what they teach at Harvard? no wonder Obama is such an idiot.


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