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Wikipedias Definition of Fungus
    #10723975 - 07/23/09 12:08 AM (12 years, 4 months ago)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fungus

Everything seems pretty on point.
Except for one thing.

I was reading through the wikipedia page for the word "fungus" and something struck my attention.

FROM WIKIPEDIA:
"The discipline of biology devoted to the study of fungi is known as mycology, and is often regarded as a branch of botany, even though fungi are more closely related to animals than to plants."

Fungi are more closely related to animals then plants? What scientific basis is there for this to be on the wikipedia page with no citation.

Unless I am missing some piece of vital information I would say fungi are more closely related to plants then animals.

Okay, fine they aren't photosynthetic. But they DO feed off nutrients found in the substrate that they GERMINATE in don't they?

They sit it one place growing out of the ground!

How can anyone say that mushrooms are more closely related to animals then plants?


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Re: Wikipedias Definition of Fungus [Re: Nuggetpouch]
    #10723995 - 07/23/09 12:12 AM (12 years, 4 months ago)

The first reason I can think of is fungi take in oxygen and give off CO2,  same as animals.  opposite plants.

I'm sure there are other differences/similarities.


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Re: Wikipedias Definition of Fungus [Re: Beefy1]
    #10724117 - 07/23/09 12:28 AM (12 years, 4 months ago)

Also from Wiki

Fungi were previously included in the plant kingdom, but are now seen to be more closely related to animals. Unlike embryophytes and algae which are generally photosynthetic, fungi are often saprotrophs: obtaining food by breaking down and absorbing surrounding materials. Most fungi are formed by microscopic structures called hyphae, which may or may not be divided into cells but contain eukaryotic nuclei. Fruiting bodies, of which mushrooms are most familiar, are the reproductive structures of fungi. They are not related to any of the photosynthetic groups, but are close relatives of animals. Therefore, the fungi are in a kingdom of their own.


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Re: Wikipedias Definition of Fungus [Re: Beefy1]
    #10724227 - 07/23/09 12:44 AM (12 years, 4 months ago)

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Fungi is a living organism that is much more closely related to mammals such as humans, than to plants.  People need to quit looking at mycelium as a different kind of plant, which it isn't.  Mycelium has been shown to have circadian rhythms just like mammals, and this is the reason that 12/12 light cycles work best.
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The fact that they germinate on their substrate and sit in one place has no bearing on what other organisms their processes resemble. Maybe RR can give you more input on this.

Until then think about this... animals are just faster moving organisms not that dissimilar from plants. We use rapid electrical signaling utilizing neurotransmitters to accomplish thinking and on a larger scale hormones to signal other cells in the body to do things. Plants have plant hormones like auxins to do the same thing. Animals mate to exchange haploid cells and combine them into diploid cells containing the complete set of genetic code that creates another animal. Plants can do the same thing through pollen. Are we that different? You can ignore this part, it's just my ramblings.


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Re: Wikipedias Definition of Fungus [Re: Nuggetpouch]
    #10724245 - 07/23/09 12:45 AM (12 years, 4 months ago)

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Nuggetpouch said:
Fungi are more closely related to animals then plants? What scientific basis is there for this to be on the wikipedia page with no citation.





Perhaps they were quoting me.  It's a fact.
http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/7232931#7232931
http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/6002854#6002854
http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/9607938#9607938
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Re: Wikipedias Definition of Fungus [Re: wygram]
    #10724260 - 07/23/09 12:48 AM (12 years, 4 months ago)

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RogerRabbit said:
Fungi is a living organism that is much more closely related to mammals such as humans, than to plants.  People need to quit looking at mycelium as a different kind of plant, which it isn't.  Mycelium has been shown to have circadian rhythms just like mammals, and this is the reason that 12/12 light cycles work best.
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The fact that they germinate on their substrate and sit in one place has no bearing on what other organisms their processes resemble. Maybe RR can give you more input on this.

Until then think about this... animals are just faster moving organisms not that dissimilar from plants. We use rapid electrical signaling utilizing neurotransmitters to accomplish thinking and on a larger scale hormones to signal other cells in the body to do things. Plants have plant hormones like auxins to do the same thing. Animals mate to exchange haploid cells and combine them into diploid cells containing the complete set of genetic code that creates another animal. Plants can do the same thing through pollen. Are we that different? You can ignore this part, it's just my ramblings.




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Re: Wikipedias Definition of Fungus [Re: RogerRabbit]
    #10724261 - 07/23/09 12:48 AM (12 years, 4 months ago)

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Re: Wikipedias Definition of Fungus [Re: Niffla]
    #10724586 - 07/23/09 01:35 AM (12 years, 4 months ago)

They think that all fungi used to have a flagellate stage and lost it.  Only the chytrid phyla have retained this primitive characteristic and get mistaken for protozoa.

Chemical similarities are used a lot these days to classify organisms.  Plants store their energy in sugar, animals in glycogen.  Humans use glycogen.  Mushrooms use glycogen.  Mushrooms produce chitin.  So do insects.  I don't think any plants make chitin.


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