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Re: Mini Mono Tub update w/ pics [Re: AlexP] * 1
    #10756830 - 07/28/09 05:07 PM (15 years, 5 months ago)

For some reason I am reminded of kids trading baseball cards.


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AlexP said: that's a good mantra for week one. The mantra for week two should be: "I will not improvise. I will not improvise. I will not improvise."

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Re: Mini Mono Tub update w/ pics [Re: AlexP]
    #10756849 - 07/28/09 05:10 PM (15 years, 5 months ago)

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AlexP said:
It's funny you are so keen on introducing your very own point of view to Doc_T. Like it would be bad (or less optimal) to have the tape there...

Light is also a trigger for pining. By taping the sides it surely reduces side pining.
:peace:




AlexP, if only you had one grow under your belt for every thousand posts you write... you might just get a clue.
:peace:


Doc, have you tried one WITH the garbage bag but WITHOUT the tape?  As I wrote before, I've personally seen no correlation between pin placement and the exact locations that light strikes.  For me, side pinning is always a result of insufficient humidity along the surface of the sub.  That's why I strongly prefer the double tub setup which allows you to cover the bottom tub with a lid to seal in more humidity closer to the surface of the sub.  Also, I've noticed that side-pinning is far less bothersome when you can actually see all sides of the sub.  The duct tape only hinders that view.

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Re: Mini Mono Tub update w/ pics [Re: AlexP]
    #10756897 - 07/28/09 05:17 PM (15 years, 5 months ago)

This is a beautiful setup Doc.
Following your tek I can take it all the way to pinning then give them out to friends so they can have there own little harvests. 
This will put some smiles on faces..... thanks
-sun

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Re: Mini Mono Tub update w/ pics [Re: Dudester67]
    #10757005 - 07/28/09 05:35 PM (15 years, 5 months ago)

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AlexP, if only you had one grow under your belt for every thousand posts you write... you might just get a clue.




Whooo Mr. Sherlock hummm?? FYI, if you study enough, you don't need one (1) grow to know light is a pinning trigger. Doc likes to use tape on the sides of his tubs, I can't see what's wrong with that nor why you're being so stubborn about it and trying to answer me in an arrogant way. You chose the wrong guy buddy.

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Doc, have you tried one WITH the garbage bag but WITHOUT the tape?




As Doc said, he uses the tape, not the bags. There's nothing wrong with that. Each grower has his own methods. That one doesn't work better than this. You don't need an extra bag for your tub everytime you grow. The tape is there, always, a lot better to the environment also!

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As I wrote before, I've personally seen no correlation between pin placement and the exact locations that light strikes




Try using indirect sunlight and placing your substrate everyday under the sun for 10 minutes. The side that gets it pins more.

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For me, side pinning is always a result of insufficient humidity along the surface of the sub.




There's enough humidity on the middle of that tub.

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That's why I strongly prefer the double tub setup which allows you to cover the bottom tub with a lid to seal in more humidity closer to the surface of the sub.




That's a personal option.

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I've noticed that side-pinning is far less bothersome when you can actually see all sides of the sub. The duct tape only hinders that view.




Bothersome? Are you going to stick your fingers through the substrate to rescue some pins?


Great way to practice my English! :cool:

:peace:
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Re: Mini Mono Tub update w/ pics [Re: Dudester67]
    #10757096 - 07/28/09 05:50 PM (15 years, 5 months ago)

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Doc, have you tried one WITH the garbage bag but WITHOUT the tape? 




I have not. But I don't really care for the bags, like I said- so if the tape works, then that's what I'll use.


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Re: Mini Mono Tub update w/ pics [Re: radiantthought]
    #10757104 - 07/28/09 05:52 PM (15 years, 5 months ago)

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For some reason I am reminded of kids trading baseball cards.




Gotta get 'em all!


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Re: Mini Mono Tub update w/ pics [Re: AlexP]
    #10757112 - 07/28/09 05:53 PM (15 years, 5 months ago)

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Whooo Mr. Sherlock hummm?? FYI, if you study enough, you don't need one (1) grow to know light is a pinning trigger. Doc likes to use tape on the sides of his tubs, I can't see what's wrong with that nor why you're being so stubborn about it and trying to answer me in an arrogant way. You chose the wrong guy buddy.

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Re: Mini Mono Tub update w/ pics [Re: Doc_T]
    #10757136 - 07/28/09 05:58 PM (15 years, 5 months ago)

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radiantthought said:
For some reason I am reminded of kids trading baseball cards.




Gotta get 'em all!




I'll trade you an albino penis envy, a Ty Cobb, and two b+ for your Joe Dimaggio and atl#7.


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This is your new mantra, say it every day when you wake up for good health.

AlexP said: that's a good mantra for week one. The mantra for week two should be: "I will not improvise. I will not improvise. I will not improvise."

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Re: Mini Mono Tub update w/ pics [Re: Doc_T]
    #10757141 - 07/28/09 05:58 PM (15 years, 5 months ago)

Only things I don't like about tape is that it makes your tub look all that more inconspicuous. Even if it has a bunch of holes and polyfil. I also don't like how it ruins the tub with all the stickiness. I personally like bags becasue you can move them around, trim them to perfection and they shrink with your sub and easy to replace. It is true though that they are worse for environment :smile:....but seriously if we are going to name those items there are plenty more we use in this hobby that are A LOT more harmful.

It is grower's choice really. While there are valid reasons why to use and why not to use each 'method' there are no valid reasons for arguing over it.


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Re: Mini Mono Tub update w/ pics [Re: kinderfeld11]
    #10757170 - 07/28/09 06:03 PM (15 years, 5 months ago)

Inconspicuous? Conspicuous?

Either way, if somebody sees my greenhouse, tape's not going to be the subject of their first question.


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Re: Mini Mono Tub update w/ pics [Re: Doc_T]
    #10757185 - 07/28/09 06:06 PM (15 years, 5 months ago)

May I see it???

Oh and Doc, thank you very much! :wink:

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Re: Mini Mono Tub update w/ pics [Re: Doc_T]
    #10757196 - 07/28/09 06:07 PM (15 years, 5 months ago)

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Inconspicuous? Conspicuous?

Either way, if somebody sees my greenhouse, tape's not going to be the subject of their first question.




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Re: Mini Mono Tub update w/ pics [Re: Doc_T]
    #10757210 - 07/28/09 06:10 PM (15 years, 5 months ago)

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Doc_T said:
Inconspicuous? Conspicuous?

Either way, if somebody sees my greenhouse, tape's not going to be the subject of their first question.





Will it because you used trash bags this time?


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Re: Mini Mono Tub update w/ pics [Re: River77]
    #10757234 - 07/28/09 06:15 PM (15 years, 5 months ago)

:rolleyes:

More like "why do you have a gree- oh, never mind. Wait... what the hell is that in there?!?"


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Re: Mini Mono Tub update w/ pics [Re: Doc_T]
    #10757260 - 07/28/09 06:20 PM (15 years, 5 months ago)

:lmafo:


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"The joy of life consists in the exercise of one's energies, continual growth, constant change, the enjoyment of every new experience. To stop means simply to die. The eternal mistake of mankind is to set up an attainable ideal." Aleister Crowley

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Re: Mini Mono Tub update w/ pics [Re: AlexP]
    #10757480 - 07/28/09 07:03 PM (15 years, 5 months ago)

search 'stealth growing'

trash bags are ALWAYS used. They also work real well in a WHITE trash bag in case of an emergency, which your TAPE will not help. And I already mentioned if you didn't care about stealth then it would not matter. Having a greenhouse, I am not thinking you care too much and for that reason you are not the 'majority'.

Yea you guys are hilarious and beating a dead horse. The tape only crew, give me a break.

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Re: Mini Mono Tub update w/ pics [Re: kinderfeld11]
    #10757502 - 07/28/09 07:07 PM (15 years, 5 months ago)

Why are people hassling me about stealth?

I don't fucking like the fucking bags, you fucking fucks!
Was that clear enough?

Could somebody lock this thread please? :crankey:


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Re: Mini Mono Tub update w/ pics [Re: Doc_T]
    #10757514 - 07/28/09 07:10 PM (15 years, 5 months ago)

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Why are people hassling me about stealth?




Because it's not important whatsoever and has nothing to do with this hobby whatsoever in any aspect.

And I agree for the lock.


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Edited by kinderfeld11 (07/28/09 07:10 PM)

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Re: Mini Mono Tub update w/ pics [Re: Doc_T]
    #10757922 - 07/28/09 08:28 PM (15 years, 5 months ago)

This shit is waaayyy too amusing to lock down. May this thread go on forever and the party never end.:rofl2::whoo:


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Re: Mini Mono Tub update w/ pics [Re: Epilson Lyrae]
    #10760118 - 07/29/09 05:51 AM (15 years, 5 months ago)

Sorry I was :crankey: last night.

I'll try bags vs tape someday. rolleyes: Don't expect me to like it.

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