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Re: Mini Mono Tub update w/ pics [Re: slapphappypill]
    #13620222 - 12/12/10 06:15 AM (13 years, 1 month ago)

Funny thing about bleach is that its what mold removal guys tell you not to use around your house to kill mold. They say use anything but actually. They say that bleach water only kills the outer layer of cells, and then the water is  absorbs the by osmosis to the still living mycelium. Source Modern Marvels :Mold and Fungus.

Another funny fact about bleach is that it is more effective in a low ph as opposed to the high ph that we get it at. Check this out.

Hope this makes since, I've had little sleep this week.


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Re: Mini Mono Tub update w/ pics [Re: Doc_T]
    #13620228 - 12/12/10 06:22 AM (13 years, 1 month ago)

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Also: bleach doesn't kill mold spores. :wink:

also again: these tubs do have an inside corner, you'll want to use a toothbrush or similar.



I use one of these to effectively reach and scrub the corners of all my tubs and trays.  Works great for cleaning the insides of jars too.



@ slappy, Pressure sterilizing is what kills the endospores.  We wash our jars as well as our grains before loading them into jars to decrease the amount of endospores that has to be incinerated by our sterilizers.




@ DOC, this was what the jars comment was about


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Re: Mini Mono Tub update w/ pics [Re: slapphappypill]
    #13620232 - 12/12/10 06:24 AM (13 years, 1 month ago)

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haha, ok, thanks for clearing that up. The reason I asked is someone was saying that they dont use cat boxes for their bulk martha grows because if something contams, they need to toss it. As both are made of hard plastic etc...



Honestly unreal dude.

http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/13620119/vc/1#13620119

It was more for the fact they are the perfect size and cheap then the contam issue. At some point your going to run into a tub or something that no matter how hard to clean it the contam will come back.


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Re: Mini Mono Tub update w/ pics [Re: slapphappypill]
    #13620238 - 12/12/10 06:32 AM (13 years, 1 month ago)

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@ DOC, this was what the jars comment was about




This = what?
You have a pronoun with no referent.


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Re: Mini Mono Tub update w/ pics [Re: PinsWellWithOthers]
    #13620267 - 12/12/10 06:54 AM (13 years, 1 month ago)

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haha, ok, thanks for clearing that up. The reason I asked is someone was saying that they dont use cat boxes for their bulk martha grows because if something contams, they need to toss it. As both are made of hard plastic etc...



Honestly unreal dude.

http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/13620119/vc/1#13620119

It was more for the fact they are the perfect size and cheap then the contam issue. At some point your going to run into a tub or something that no matter how hard to clean it the contam will come back.




My bad dude, I misunderstood then


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I have FINALLY written up a couple teks as to how SHP has done things in the past. DISCLAIMER: This is not for the newbie to mycology, and not going to work for everyone! This is simply what works for one person when other teks and methods have failed miserably!
~~~~~How SHP does their unconventional WBS Prep!! (NO DRY METHOD)~~~~
~~~~~SHP's highly disputed method of doing ALL their work outside of a flow hood or a Still air box!~~~~~
~~~~~Troubles harvesting the side and bottom pins in your mono? Learn how!! Dunking included ;-)~~~~~


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Re: Mini Mono Tub update w/ pics [Re: PinsWellWithOthers]
    #13620277 - 12/12/10 07:02 AM (13 years, 1 month ago)

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PinsWellWithOthers said: At some point your going to run into a tub or something that no matter how hard to clean it the contam will come back.




No.

Unless by 'something' you mean a syringe of LC.


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Re: Mini Mono Tub update w/ pics [Re: Doc_T]
    #13620305 - 12/12/10 07:19 AM (13 years, 1 month ago)

I'm too tired for this shit, :header: .


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Re: Mini Mono Tub update w/ pics [Re: Base Icks]
    #13620793 - 12/12/10 10:44 AM (13 years, 1 month ago)

I just rinse the tubs out with tap water and let em air dry. I do use a fresh liner for each tub of course.  Really it seems like if the spawn and the bulk sub are clean you're going to get a good result.


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Re: Mini Mono Tub update w/ pics [Re: anonjon]
    #13621926 - 12/12/10 03:25 PM (13 years, 1 month ago)

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I just rinse the tubs out with tap water and let em air dry. I do use a fresh liner for each tub of course.  Really it seems like if the spawn and the bulk sub are clean you're going to get a good result.



You don't use soap?

I do the same... but with warm tap water & dish soap.

Then a quick rinse and air dry.


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Re: Mini Mono Tub update w/ pics [Re: ProfessorPinHead]
    #13626441 - 12/13/10 01:05 PM (13 years, 1 month ago)

My little guys started poking there little heads out. nearly half the tubs is covered in 1/4"-1/2" pins and none of them turned black or stopped growing yet. Weird most of the pins are in the middle or around the outter edge. theres like a 2" area around the whole tub thats between the middle and the edge that i think is suffering from slight overlay and only have a small handfull of pins/primordia. I assume this issue will clear up after the 1st flush. The middle is very dense in growth and many of them seem to be growing in big clusters. I should also mention I messed up when i drilled the holes and made them 1/2" rather then 1/4" and to help fix this issue put microporse tape over half of them in alternating fashion like a checkardboard. Humidity still within needed amounts. Since pinning i removed the lower 2 rows of tap to help increase FAE to see if it helps bring in the pins on the area without any. If no results ill cover them back up tomorrow incase of humidity loss. One of the pins that was growing on the trashbag its self fell off the bag and it has a flavor.  :awesome:


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Re: Mini Mono Tub update w/ pics [Re: anonjon]
    #13626488 - 12/13/10 01:17 PM (13 years, 1 month ago)

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I just rinse the tubs out with tap water and let em air dry. I do use a fresh liner for each tub of course.  Really it seems like if the spawn and the bulk sub are clean you're going to get a good result.



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Re: Mini Mono Tub update w/ pics [Re: hamloaf]
    #13635457 - 12/15/10 03:48 AM (13 years, 1 month ago)

Figure since i posted all the other smaller details here already. Ill just add these also. These are 1 day apart.





I assume on the 2nd flush the area not grown will pick up some growth. If not I'm still happy for my 1st try at bulk (and pretty much 1st grow ever). Probably going to do some other mono next that has less holes but bigger holes. Anyone have suggestions on a tek for something 27 gallons? According to Spawn Ratio Calc it would be 29 quarts total. 1:4 would be 6 quarts spawn and 23 quarts sub. Anyone ever work with something this size?


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Re: Mini Mono Tub update w/ pics [Re: hamloaf]
    #13639394 - 12/15/10 09:34 PM (13 years, 1 month ago)

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I just rinse the tubs out with tap water and let em air dry. I do use a fresh liner for each tub of course.  Really it seems like if the spawn and the bulk sub are clean you're going to get a good result.



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Re: Mini Mono Tub update w/ pics [Re: PinsWellWithOthers]
    #13640322 - 12/16/10 02:09 AM (13 years, 1 month ago)

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Figure since i posted all the other smaller details here already. Ill just add these also. These are 1 day apart.





I assume on the 2nd flush the area not grown will pick up some growth. If not I'm still happy for my 1st try at bulk (and pretty much 1st grow ever). Probably going to do some other mono next that has less holes but bigger holes. Anyone have suggestions on a tek for something 27 gallons? According to Spawn Ratio Calc it would be 29 quarts total. 1:4 would be 6 quarts spawn and 23 quarts sub. Anyone ever work with something this size?



mushrooms or so eerie and awesome :thumbup:


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Re: Mini Mono Tub update w/ pics [Re: Invisible_Woe]
    #13649761 - 12/17/10 11:24 PM (13 years, 1 month ago)

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Re: Mini Mono Tub update w/ pics [Re: runMD]
    #13654983 - 12/19/10 07:02 AM (13 years, 1 month ago)

results from 1st flush. 163 grams dry.


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Re: Mini Mono Tub update w/ pics [Re: PinsWellWithOthers]
    #13654997 - 12/19/10 07:10 AM (13 years, 1 month ago)

damn man, that thats from the mini mono tub? I'm going to be using a bunch of rye/coir/verm/coffee/gypsum in straight msg here in the next 2 weeks, just waiting on my rye to colonize  :datass:


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FYI: I stole all my pix off google! F+ PORN! Here is a shit-ton of porn by yours truly!

I have FINALLY written up a couple teks as to how SHP has done things in the past. DISCLAIMER: This is not for the newbie to mycology, and not going to work for everyone! This is simply what works for one person when other teks and methods have failed miserably!
~~~~~How SHP does their unconventional WBS Prep!! (NO DRY METHOD)~~~~
~~~~~SHP's highly disputed method of doing ALL their work outside of a flow hood or a Still air box!~~~~~
~~~~~Troubles harvesting the side and bottom pins in your mono? Learn how!! Dunking included ;-)~~~~~


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Re: Mini Mono Tub update w/ pics [Re: slapphappypill]
    #13655069 - 12/19/10 07:43 AM (13 years, 1 month ago)

Yea mine was a little bigger then what Doc uses but still the same idea. 4 inch sub in a 68 quart tub 6 quarts of spawn.


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Re: Mini Mono Tub update w/ pics [Re: slapphappypill]
    #13655072 - 12/19/10 07:44 AM (13 years, 1 month ago)

Please be very careful to be very sure you properly pasteurize your spent coffee grounds. 
Spent coffee grounds don't have beneficial mircobes. 
They are a nitrogen enriched clean slate. 
Once coffee grounds dry out, they are open season for anything else that lands on them to germantate on them. 

This is how spent coffee grounds are more susceptible to contamination then manure(s). 
Manure(s) harbor the beneficial microbes that stick around and fight contamination after the manure's been properly pasteurized. 

For a very nitrogen rich additive to coir, go with field aged chicken manure or worm castings. 
Worm castings can be found at most of your local ma and pa garden and nursery centers. 
If you don't have a source for dried, aged chicken manure, check your local feed and seed and garden and nursery centers.
Of those 2 places, one of them ought to be able to point you in the direction of some good chicken manure.

Notes:  Worm castings are going to be easier of the 2 manures to find.
Also, it's a lot cheaper for smaller amounts than the chicken manure sold over the counter.
Be sure the manures you purchase over the counter are not treated with fungicides.
Should be written on the packaging whether it's treated with fungicides or not.
If the packaging is not labeled clearly, don't be afraid to ask the clerk.


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Re: Mini Mono Tub update w/ pics [Re: hamloaf]
    #13655465 - 12/19/10 10:35 AM (13 years, 1 month ago)

I've been playing with ewc a lot lately and i'm thinking i wont bother with it anymore. It thickens up the substrate and the nitrogen boost seems to be minimal. I think the smart way to go is to just enrich with the chicken manure or something else strong. You can order it online in pelletized form called chickity doo doo.


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