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Doc_T
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Mini Mono Tub update w/ pics 36
#10713572 - 07/21/09 07:26 AM (14 years, 6 months ago) |
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There seemed to be a lot of interest in this thing, so I figured I'd give it a thread of its own and some pics to show it off.
Here's the overview: Tape (or paint) for bottom 4 1/2 inches, then drill 1/4" holes every 2". (Thanks RR!) It takes a half-brick batch of coir, or a similar amount of other substrate. I use 2-3 quart jars of spawn. This particular tub has Oak Ridge growing.

Fruiting conditions were introduced on 7/8. Which is to say, I took it out of the plastic bag it had been in and set it near a window. It's in an uninsulated utility room, so it gets a natural temperature and light cycle.

No fanning at all- zero. I mist once or twice a day as needed.

Inside view. Yes, that pin is nearly as big as my thumb.

I should be able to update this again in 3-5 days, if all goes well.
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Edited by Doc_T (07/27/09 10:03 PM)
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Re: Mini Mono Tub update w/ pics [Re: faceyneck] 2
#14185564 - 03/26/11 05:49 AM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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Quote:
faceyneck said: It's not absurd. It works. 
you'll soon learn, what i learned many many months ago
if its not Doc_T's way, its wrong, stupid, dumb, 'going to fail' or 'absurd'
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Re: Mini Mono Tub update w/ pics [Re: River77] 1
#10713791 - 07/21/09 08:29 AM (14 years, 6 months ago) |
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They are all important. GE is absolutely essential during colonization. FAE is required during fruiting. But humidity of the correct level is also important, all throughout the life cycle. It's a balancing act.
Depending on your local conditions, the style of tub, and your personal approach, one factor or another will be 'the most important' for you. Around here, humidity is my big issue- it's effectively a desert where I live. So my tubs dry out with unpleasant rapidity.
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Re: Mini Mono Tub update w/ pics [Re: Doc_T] 1
#10713855 - 07/21/09 08:45 AM (14 years, 6 months ago) |
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Yes. That makes sense. Thanks again. I have some things to consider for my next set up.
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Re: Mini Mono Tub update w/ pics [Re: UpSwell] 1
#10722989 - 07/22/09 07:58 PM (14 years, 6 months ago) |
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Flush matured faster than I thought- I woke up to this:

Went to work, came home to: 
So I harvested 11.6 ounces of fresh mushrooms, including this gorgeous cluster:  Gotta love it when the spores get all over your hand!
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Re: Mini Mono Tub update w/ pics [Re: AlexP] 1
#10756830 - 07/28/09 05:07 PM (14 years, 6 months ago) |
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For some reason I am reminded of kids trading baseball cards.
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Re: Mini Mono Tub update w/ pics [Re: Doc_T] 1
#12137762 - 03/03/10 08:44 PM (13 years, 10 months ago) |
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No way... that's awesome Doc, I'll give it a try. I always thought it was safer to keep the holes filtered! Thanks for that. I also did search for a second opinion (although I don't doubt that you know) and found a TC named Creamcorn saying this: "molds typically won't grow when there's a good supply of fresh, moving air." Case closed. It'll just require a lot more misting, that's all!
I don't know what I'd do without the shroomery. Actually, I do: back in 1996 I tried with some spores and one photocopied page of instructions. I actually got pins before contamination got it. Is it ever nice to be in 2010, and able to consult with seasoned growers in this place to learn how to do it right!
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Re: Mini Mono Tub update w/ pics [Re: Barakanaten] 1
#13662577 - 12/20/10 08:19 PM (13 years, 1 month ago) |
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If someone would have told me 5 years ago that fanning and misting shit in a container would have me laughing for 5 hours straight I probably would have laughed. But not for 5 hours.
Edited by PinsWellWithOthers (12/20/10 08:19 PM)
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Re: Mini Mono Tub update w/ pics [Re: PreparationH] 1
#13958663 - 02/13/11 10:47 PM (12 years, 11 months ago) |
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Bulk does not need casing from what I've read though I've seen experienced casing users get amazing pinsets. IME fluffy mycelium once FAE has hit it "deflates" and forms a pretty good "casing layer" on the top of the sub from under which most primordia develop
To me, casing on bulk is simply something for contams to exploit.
I may play with casings in the future if I ever get to work with isolates, but no sense trying for pinsets on multispore IMO.
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Re: Ready to fruit? *DELETED* [Re: faceyneck] 1
#14185841 - 03/26/11 08:35 AM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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Post deleted by MorelmanReason for deletion: Never again...
Edited by Morelman (03/26/11 09:25 AM)
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Re: Mini Mono Tub update w/ pics [Re: anonjon] 1
#14190953 - 03/27/11 07:48 AM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
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anonjon said:
I think he would say "I said no such thing." That's why I was askin for the link.
Correct.
You want to keep CO2 levels high during colonization for a few reasons. One reason is that colonization is slowed down somewhat in a high CO2 environment and this helps prevent the mycelium from consuming the substrate rather than colonizing it. You'll have much more of your substrate available for the fruiting stage if you keep a high CO2 level during colonization.
In addition, the CO2 drop is a major pinning trigger, thus if it's applied at the time of the other triggers such as bright light and evaporation of moisture from the substrate, you'll get a more even pinset.
It is true that providing FAE during colonization rather than simple gas exchange will speed up colonization, but it's not beneficial. RR
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Re: Mini Mono Tub update w/ pics [Re: Doc_T]
#10713698 - 07/21/09 08:08 AM (14 years, 6 months ago) |
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How did you do the subtrate? did u just crumble down a fully colonized cake or did u just inockulate the whole thing?
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Re: Mini Mono Tub update w/ pics [Re: sushi84]
#10713712 - 07/21/09 08:11 AM (14 years, 6 months ago) |
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It's CCV. Coir/coffee/verm. I thought I had gypsum in it, but looking back through my notes I see that I didn't get that or castings until the next day. Each tub holds a half batch, you get two from one brick. I typically spawn 2-3 quarts of WBS to a tub like this.
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Re: Mini Mono Tub update w/ pics [Re: sushi84]
#10713734 - 07/21/09 08:15 AM (14 years, 6 months ago) |
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Misting and not fanning... That is where I want to be with my tubs. I am glad I have some one to look up to. Thanks Doc.
You know what would be sweet? Is that if you looked as much like Kiefer Sutherland as I imagine.
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Re: Mini Mono Tub update w/ pics [Re: River77]
#10713747 - 07/21/09 08:18 AM (14 years, 6 months ago) |
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More like Donald Sutherland. Only not so tall. Or handsome. 
But yeah- occasional mist (you'd need even less if you had more humidity than I do) and no fanning at all. It's pretty slick. All respect to RR for the hole spacing. I might have found it eventually, but he showed us all how to do it long ago.
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Re: Mini Mono Tub update w/ pics [Re: River77]
#10713748 - 07/21/09 08:18 AM (14 years, 6 months ago) |
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Pretty cool man
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You being from CO. I still see you carrying a pistol and backing up Emilio Estevez.
I am starting to think that FAE or GE, (at the proper times) is more important than humidity. Is this a good train of thought?
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Re: Mini Mono Tub update w/ pics [Re: River77]
#10713876 - 07/21/09 08:50 AM (14 years, 6 months ago) |
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What is the size of your mini-tub? I am using 11 gal. containers and feel I should treat them as a mini-tub vs. a mono-tub.
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Re: Mini Mono Tub update w/ pics [Re: River77]
#10713901 - 07/21/09 08:55 AM (14 years, 6 months ago) |
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Nice post Doc.
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Re: Mini Mono Tub update w/ pics [Re: River77]
#10713931 - 07/21/09 09:01 AM (14 years, 6 months ago) |
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River77 said: What is the size of your mini-tub? I am using 11 gal. containers and feel I should treat them as a mini-tub vs. a mono-tub.
I don't know it in gallons. It's the Sterilite 1896, the one that holds hanging files. I got a bunch for free, so I had to figure out how to make them work. But like I said, it's a half batch of substrate, so 4 quarts.
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