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cactu
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Amanita caesarea, jacksonii , basii etc...
#10690200 - 07/16/09 07:55 PM (14 years, 7 months ago) |
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i forgot my camera sorry guys but here are some pictures of the haul this is from another sierra....
 notice all the developemen of the amanita this red amanita , wish iam not sure of the specie maybe basii


 the volva is really big

 some where buried
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Re: Amanita caesarea, jacksonii , basii etc... [Re: cactu]
#10690223 - 07/16/09 07:58 PM (14 years, 7 months ago) |
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Gorgeous mushrooms!
I'd like to see how you cook those!
-------------------- Mr. Mushrooms said: I will confess something that should be quite obvious, CC. I love mushrooms, i.e. fungi. I really do. I am talking about a strong feeling, i.e. emotion, for them. I think they are beautiful. I even dream of them.
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cactu
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Re: Amanita caesarea, jacksonii , basii etc... [Re: Bobzimmer]
#10690230 - 07/16/09 07:59 PM (14 years, 7 months ago) |
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  cuando una rafaga del pensamiento nos pasa al lado se puede sentir que valio la pena haber vivido, y cuando ese pensamiento se convierte en sueño no paramos de soñar hasta realizarlo
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Re: Amanita caesarea, jacksonii , basii etc... [Re: cactu]
#10690300 - 07/16/09 08:12 PM (14 years, 7 months ago) |
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Nice Amanita basii , i dont think A. caesarea occurs in Mexico.
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cactu
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Re: Amanita caesarea, jacksonii , basii etc... [Re: HerbBaker]
#10690349 - 07/16/09 08:20 PM (14 years, 7 months ago) |
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well i guess they do so many different varieties , the yellow form , the red form and the orange form , you know taxonomy is a mess and what is call one thing will not last with that name if a taxonomist decide the contrary,but you know i really don't really care this are truly as good as the ones the Caesar used to eat. i have hear report from italian people and they love the ones from here and not so much the ones fron italy , rare....
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Re: Amanita caesarea, jacksonii , basii etc... [Re: cactu]
#10690371 - 07/16/09 08:24 PM (14 years, 7 months ago) |
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Most amanita are not cosmopolitan, this is because white spores are easily killed by sunlight.
They look delicious
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Re: Amanita caesarea, jacksonii , basii etc... [Re: cactu]
#10690664 - 07/16/09 09:15 PM (14 years, 7 months ago) |
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Does it rain frequently year round in parts of Mejico?
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quadracer
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Re: Amanita caesarea, jacksonii , basii etc... [Re: World Spirit]
#10691675 - 07/17/09 12:15 AM (14 years, 7 months ago) |
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damn those are some impressive mushrooms!
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Alan Rockefeller
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Re: Amanita caesarea, jacksonii , basii etc... [Re: World Spirit]
#10693433 - 07/17/09 10:52 AM (14 years, 6 months ago) |
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Quote:
Does it rain frequently year round in parts of Mejico?
In some parts.
This is Jalisco though, the weather is more like California there, it rains for a few months (late may - september) and is dry for the rest of the year.
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Re: Amanita caesarea, jacksonii , basii etc... [Re: cactu]
#10693522 - 07/17/09 11:12 AM (14 years, 6 months ago) |
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wow they look just like A. jacksonii
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Re: Amanita caesarea, jacksonii , basii etc... [Re: cactu]
#10693648 - 07/17/09 11:40 AM (14 years, 6 months ago) |
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Rod Tulloss said:
The Mexican species A. basii is much fleshier than A. jacksonii; and as a result of this difference, the latter has much longer marginal striations than does A. basii and (usually) has an umbo, which is usually lacking in the Mexican species. The most significant difference is in the anatomy of the gills of the two species.
Imagine a pile of oranges. Picture how the rows of oranges overlap. This will give you a feeling for the layers of inflated cells that lie immediately below the spore-bearing cells on the gills of the Caesars (e.g., A. basii) and the Slender Caesars (e.g., A. jacksonii). There are four or five layers of “oranges” in the case of the Caesars and two or three layers in the case of the Slender Caesars. [The layers of cells are called the subhymenium because they support the basidia which form the hymenium—-the spore producing gill surface.] This difference in subhymenia is very consistent with differences in habit between the two groups. This is discussed (and keys are given) in the article on **Amanita** sect. Caesareae that can be found on the Amanita Studies web site. (A link to the article follows the brief description of sect. Caesareae on the main page of the site:
http://eticomm.net/~ret/amanita/mainaman.html
On the same site, the species page for A. basii provides an outline of a recipe showing how you can improve the flavor of a dish based on A. basii. On the other hand, A. basii can serve as a texture and color highlight in such dishes as scrambled eggs with chipotle chilies.
Be careful in using the Guzmán & Ramírez-Guillén monograph. Because of errors in data collection, errors in sectioning tissues, and lack of taxonomic and biological understanding of the genus Amanita, several species are described twice (receiving two different names). The segregation is often due to small variations in spore size.
I do not subscribe to the idea that A. basii and A. caesarea both occur on both sides of the Atlantic Ocean.
The new name A. tullossii is a synonym of A. jacksonii. Errors in sectioning of gills and subsequent observations of those sections resulted in the erection of the unrequired name in this case.
Rod
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cactu
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 this are from diferent sierra as i have said years before , there are the yellow form that only host to oaks and the red and orange form that prefer pines. here the yellow form this girls was selling in the plaza of the town




 i buy this for 20 pesos and i give her 20 pesos more for what she gave me.
 now is time to hunt my own ...
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Re: Amanita caesarea, jacksonii , basii etc... [Re: cactu]
#10710983 - 07/20/09 05:55 PM (14 years, 6 months ago) |
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inspired by the girls that where selling amanita i go to hunt some :


 this one was infected with hyphomyces..
 if i return one day to reality kill me.....
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