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Offlineumb_hunk
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To dunk or not to dunk
    #1068964 - 11/20/02 08:16 AM (18 years, 8 months ago)

I came home last evening and had a quick peek at my terrarium. To my amazement I had 2 jars of Mazatapec showing signs of pinning (fuckin A) and the other 2 jars (Puerto Ricain) not showing sign of primordia yet. My jars have been in the terrarium (75 degrees & 99% RH, 9 hours of light per day, ventilation 2 to 3 times a day) for 3 days now. To all of you mycologist out there, how long do you think I should wait before triing the dunking tek with my puerto Ricain strain?


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Re: To dunk or not to dunk [Re: umb_hunk]
    #1068988 - 11/20/02 08:39 AM (18 years, 8 months ago)

In my experience, PR's take about 7-10 days to start pinning. If you're gonna dunk I'd do it now. I usually dunk right before birthing the cake.



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Re: To dunk or not to dunk [Re: Fred Garvin]
    #1069020 - 11/20/02 09:06 AM (18 years, 8 months ago)

I've been told that I should dunk for 24 to 48 hours in the comfort of a refrigirator. Isn't 48 hours a little long?


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Re: To dunk or not to dunk [Re: umb_hunk]
    #1069030 - 11/20/02 09:12 AM (18 years, 8 months ago)

Dunk them bro!  You'll see a tramendous difference :laugh:
Let's see hear now............
Not dunked :ooo:

Dunked :grin:

Both are the same strain grown in the same conditions and all that good stuff.  Now you see why people like to dunk! :laugh: 


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Re: To dunk or not to dunk [Re: umb_hunk]
    #1069032 - 11/20/02 09:14 AM (18 years, 8 months ago)

At least 12, but up to 24 should be OK. I forgot to take one out once and left it in for a little over 24 hrs and had no problems.
I also take a very small drill (1/32" or smaller), flame sterilize, and drill little holes at various points around the cake before dunking. I've found that the cakes seem to pin pretty prolifically at these points. It's a greater risk of contamination, but I've had no problems so far, knock on wood.







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Re: To dunk or not to dunk [Re: umb_hunk]
    #1069034 - 11/20/02 09:16 AM (18 years, 8 months ago)

I dunk for about 18-20hrs with bleach/water 1:100.    I just mix 1 ml bleach with 100 ml of water and this is normally enough for 1 half pinter :laugh:  The mycelium will drown after 24 hrs.  :frown:  Tell you friend where to stick his extra 24 hrs. :laugh: LOL :laugh: j/k  Hope this helps ya bro!

Peace :laugh: ignuF


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Re: To dunk or not to dunk [Re: ignuF]
    #1069086 - 11/20/02 10:13 AM (18 years, 8 months ago)

Do you htink I can substitute bleach with h2o2?


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Re: To dunk or not to dunk [Re: umb_hunk]
    #1069146 - 11/20/02 10:38 AM (18 years, 8 months ago)

Haven't heard much on that or tried it, but I suppose so.  I would assume you could use more H2O2 in it than the bleach.  Or you could just use plain water?  I always use distilled water 58cents/gallon at wal-mart :laugh:  There is no need for the bleach but it helps prevent contams.


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Re: To dunk or not to dunk [Re: ignuF]
    #1069167 - 11/20/02 10:46 AM (18 years, 8 months ago)

Something that really helps keep things going and contams away, aside from using h202 or bleach (bad stuff imho), did you ever try just rinsing your cakes once a day? I don't grow cakes anymore, all casings, but when I did, I sat my cakes in a small 1/4" pool of water, and using a syringe I would squirt the cakes with dh2o once or twice a day all over the top and the outside, applying a little water pressure coming out of the syringe, leaving a small pool of water setting right on top of the cake. Contams really have trouble growing when you wash them away once or twice a day, and contams that may fall on top don't grow too well totally submersed in water. I like to call this little method the hydroponic tek. perhaps you've heard of it?


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Re: To dunk or not to dunk [Re: ignuF]
    #1069328 - 11/20/02 12:17 PM (18 years, 8 months ago)

I read the Hippie's Dunk Tek and it says to dunk after the first flush. I haven't had any pins yet on those two cakes. You tell me I can still dunk them to speed up the pinning process but won't it affect the % of water of the cakes?


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Re: To dunk or not to dunk [Re: umb_hunk]
    #1069365 - 11/20/02 12:27 PM (18 years, 8 months ago)

for dunking can you use tap water or not? I think I'd just use some natural water out of a tree stump or something.


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Re: To dunk or not to dunk [Re: user_exists]
    #1069367 - 11/20/02 12:28 PM (18 years, 8 months ago)

You can use H2O and H2O2. Or you can use a milk dunk. Or H2O and Bleach.


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Re: To dunk or not to dunk [Re: lvleph]
    #1069613 - 11/20/02 01:40 PM (18 years, 8 months ago)

what are the benefits of milk dunking. IS it worth it?


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Re: To dunk or not to dunk [Re: thisone]
    #1069672 - 11/20/02 01:51 PM (18 years, 8 months ago)

Adds sugar, but I am not sure how much it really effects the fruiting.


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Re: To dunk or not to dunk [Re: thisone]
    #1069696 - 11/20/02 01:54 PM (18 years, 8 months ago)

Don't mess around with milk at this point in the game. Just use some bottled water, a tiny amount of H2O2 if you wish, and go for it. KISS Keep It Simple S^^^^^^^!!



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Re: To dunk or not to dunk [Re: Fred Garvin]
    #1069962 - 11/20/02 02:46 PM (18 years, 8 months ago)

Question...When dunking right before birth, do I need to take the cakes out and clean them off before I dunk? Or can I just take off the top verm barrier and fill the jar with water?


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Re: To dunk or not to dunk [Re: sdrussell]
    #1070190 - 11/20/02 03:44 PM (18 years, 8 months ago)

Just knock the vermiculite off and add the water. :laugh:  After your flush make sure you clean all left over pieces of fruit, aborts, and vermiculite.  This will keep things clean and healthy.  :laugh:


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Re: To dunk or not to dunk [Re: sdrussell]
    #1070192 - 11/20/02 03:44 PM (18 years, 8 months ago)

I'd like to know the answer to that question too. Can you just pour the water in there when it's 100% colo to start the dunk.?


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Re: To dunk or not to dunk [Re: thisone]
    #1070318 - 11/20/02 04:09 PM (18 years, 8 months ago)

I use clean 1 pint jars, fill them about 1/2 way with water/H2o2, transfer the 1/2 pt cake to the pint jar, fill the rest of the way until the vermiculite portion of the cake is slightly above the rim, then put on the lid, so the cake is fully submerged.
I leave the vermiculite on the bottom of the cake when I birth them, it seems to keep a moisture reserve for the cake to use.



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Re: To dunk or not to dunk [Re: Fred Garvin]
    #1070331 - 11/20/02 04:11 PM (18 years, 8 months ago)

Fred do you think you could fit 2 1/2 pint jars in a 1 pint and then dunk like that?


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