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Optimal bulk substrate depth for cubes?
    #10682712 - 07/15/09 05:27 PM (11 years, 7 months ago)

I have 1/3 size food pans that are 6" deep witch hold 5.5Q.


I am wondering what would be the best subsrate depth for cubes. I will be spawning rye berries to a bulk mix(coir, Hpoo & straw). Also is there any benefit to using such a big tray? I'm thinking more flushes & maybe bigger mushrooms.


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Re: Optimal bulk substrate depth for cubes? [Re: SRHooM]
    #10682747 - 07/15/09 05:33 PM (11 years, 7 months ago)

If you have another one just like it you could do a dubtub build with that... Someone suggested 1 qt. spawn to 2 or 3 parts substrate for a dubtub that size.


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Re: Optimal bulk substrate depth for cubes? [Re: Lostkeys]
    #10682763 - 07/15/09 05:34 PM (11 years, 7 months ago)

I have 7 :cool:
I can fit 5 inside a 50gal rubbermaid tub like this,



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Re: Optimal bulk substrate depth for cubes? [Re: Lostkeys]
    #10682774 - 07/15/09 05:35 PM (11 years, 7 months ago)

4.5" is what I say is optimal,  some say more.
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Re: Optimal bulk substrate depth for cubes? [Re: CH HELL]
    #10682781 - 07/15/09 05:36 PM (11 years, 7 months ago)

at that size 3" total is fine.


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Re: Optimal bulk substrate depth for cubes? [Re: PsYcHoDoUgHbOy]
    #10683122 - 07/15/09 06:42 PM (11 years, 7 months ago)

2-4, straw can be larger (I recall much like 12 I thought) while straight cased grain should be on the lower end of around 2.


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Re: Optimal bulk substrate depth for cubes? [Re: Lennyk]
    #10683175 - 07/15/09 06:54 PM (11 years, 7 months ago)

3-4 inches for grains a bit deeper for poo/straw. Straight straw go with logs 6-8".


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Re: Optimal bulk substrate depth for cubes? [Re: hyphae]
    #10683841 - 07/15/09 09:07 PM (11 years, 7 months ago)

Ok, I guess I'll shoot for 5" so I have a inch for a casing layer.

Will having a 5" substrate provide more flushes or bigger mushrooms compared to say 2-3"? Also should I use a full inch casing layer with such a deep substrate?


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Re: Optimal bulk substrate depth for cubes? [Re: SRHooM]
    #10684336 - 07/15/09 10:20 PM (11 years, 7 months ago)

I use 3 inch bulk for my monotubs, but who knows, more might be better in the case of yield, I've never experimented.  The reason I do three inches is it fits the tubs I'm using nicely, holds enough moisture, spreads the contam risk out a bit more, and makes shrooms!!!!!!!!


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Re: Optimal bulk substrate depth for cubes? [Re: Stealthgrower]
    #10684372 - 07/15/09 10:25 PM (11 years, 7 months ago)

I would go with six 3/4" hole at the very top, two on each side and one on each end.  4.5" sub and a 1/2" casing.
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Re: Optimal bulk substrate depth for cubes? [Re: Stealthgrower]
    #10684404 - 07/15/09 10:29 PM (11 years, 7 months ago)

The biggest difference in my opinion between using say a 3" sub versus a 5" would be you could most likely support a better pinset with the deeper depth.

Meaning that lets say hypothetically you did one that was 3" and one 5". Both in the same tub. The cropping surface in both tubs is exactly the same. Now, lets say you did a great job at the pinset conditions and each tub developed 300 pins. In my opinion, you would see more aborts in the 3" tub versus the 5".

In other words, given you get a maximum pinset, the 5" should produce a higher total yield. Due to being able to provide enough energy to ALL primordia to grow to thier full potential.


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Re: Optimal bulk substrate depth for cubes? [Re: Lucid_Euphoria]
    #10684579 - 07/15/09 10:54 PM (11 years, 7 months ago)

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4.5" is what I say is optimal,  some say more.
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That's about what I do. Of course, the number of expected flushes is a factor. If you want to get four or five or eight flushes, you'll need a nice deep tub.

Not that I get eight flushes or anything. Just sayin'.


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