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why do we disrespect the drugs we use?
    #10672332 - 07/13/09 10:17 PM (14 years, 11 months ago)

Why do people who apparently enjoy these drugs use such negative words to describe the effect?

marijuana -- stoned, baked, fried, wasted
LSD -- Fry, fucked up, acid

Why don't more people use words like high and wonderful experience?

Why don't we think about the possible negative effect these words could be having on our experience or how others view our experience?

Can anyone think of some more examples?

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Re: why do we disrespect the drugs we use? [Re: zen buddy]
    #10672511 - 07/13/09 10:49 PM (14 years, 11 months ago)

Negative to whom?
I find them fitting words, and a slang all of their own.
People outside the drug culture hear "fucked up" and think negative connotations. I hear "fucked up" and I think, alright, enjoy it man. :shrug:

It's only negative if you make it negative.


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Re: why do we disrespect the drugs we use? [Re: zen buddy]
    #10672552 - 07/13/09 10:57 PM (14 years, 11 months ago)

Yeah, how could someone call lysergic acid, 'acid'? WTF were they thinking? :mad2:


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Re: why do we disrespect the drugs we use? [Re: OrgoneConclusion]
    #10672609 - 07/13/09 11:06 PM (14 years, 11 months ago)

Heh, I thought about making a response like that...

But in all seriousness, drug use is undermined. I think turning those negative attributions from non-drug users into positive slang for the drug user, is a rebellion against such negative connotations.

It's like a black guy calling his friend nigger. You could argue that nigger is full of negative connotations, but do you really think that such use is really intended in a negative way? Drug users are in a growing minority, it's to be expected.


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Re: why do we disrespect the drugs we use? [Re: Kickle]
    #10672985 - 07/14/09 12:26 AM (14 years, 11 months ago)

But it only further perpetuates the negative connotations. In our own way we are admitting that these words are sufficient to describe our experience.

I don't believe that drug users have any negative intentions, only that they are not fully aware of how they are contributing to a drugs bad reputation.

If we really do enjoy these drugs so much, wouldn't we want other people to share in this experience?

If your family actually believes that you are getting fucked up on marijuana they will probably be less likely to be accepting of this behavior.

A fruit salesperson would not try and sell a store a new batch of bananas by suggesting that the bananas taste like shit.

If we want to be respected what might drop the rebellious teenager thing...  maybe that's just it, too many rebellious teenagers.

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Re: why do we disrespect the drugs we use? [Re: zen buddy]
    #10673027 - 07/14/09 12:35 AM (14 years, 11 months ago)

Awesome question! My favorite one is 'stoned' Like if you get caught you will be stoned. Its strange how we use terms like this. I wonder if it is some sort of mind control, like how the CIA got african-americans to call each other 'nigga'.

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Re: why do we disrespect the drugs we use? [Re: avatar]
    #10673115 - 07/14/09 01:04 AM (14 years, 11 months ago)

In my mind "stoned" and "high" are not the same effect. High is a feeling of energy and movement, stoned is a feeling of being sucked into your couch.


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Re: why do we disrespect the drugs we use? [Re: Rocker232]
    #10673876 - 07/14/09 07:54 AM (14 years, 11 months ago)

These are the ego's words.  My ego was fried, blazed, stoned, baked, blitzed, hammered - i.e. obliterated, crucified, temporarily transcended.  People often take substances to calm the disturbing thoughts by which they are constantly bombarded by their subconscious programming.  So the terminology of how fucked up one was is about the degree the compound was effective in altering, dulling, or amplifying to the point of absurdity and/or acceptance, one's habitual neuroses.


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Re: why do we disrespect the drugs we use? [Re: avatar]
    #10674003 - 07/14/09 08:37 AM (14 years, 11 months ago)

...like how the CIA got african-americans to call each other 'nigga.'

WTF? I don't think so. Nigredo means black, and so do a lot of permutations that led to the word Negro, including 'nigra.' Used perjoratively by non-Blacks, eventually, Blacks attempted to take possession of the 'N word' to transmute it from its exclusive use by their oppressors, to satirize the word and own it. The attempt failed as far as I'm concerned. It's sort of like Jews trying to turn the swastika into a fashionable new recognizable pattern like 'paisley.' It would Never work and Never have its hateful association defused. Black parents with any working neurons don't endearingly call their children 'my little nigga,' nor do lovers call one another that. There is Always an element of anger or hostility in the use of that word and since most people are basically unconscious, those who use the term remain ignorant even of why they say what they say. My Lady is Black (Nigerian-Jamaican) and believe me when I tell you that the 'N word' raises hackles like a swastika does to a  concentration camp survivor. Of course my Lady is not an unconscious automaton and is way above the fray in this matter.

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Re: why do we disrespect the drugs we use? [Re: zen buddy]
    #10674050 - 07/14/09 08:50 AM (14 years, 11 months ago)

Quote:

zen buddy said:
Why do people who apparently enjoy these drugs use such negative words to describe the effect?

marijuana -- stoned, baked, fried, wasted
LSD -- Fry, fucked up, acid

Why don't more people use words like high and wonderful experience?

Why don't we think about the possible negative effect these words could be having on our experience or how others view our experience?

Can anyone think of some more examples?




This thread is retarded. :yesnod:


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Re: why do we disrespect the drugs we use? [Re: MarkostheGnostic]
    #10674060 - 07/14/09 08:52 AM (14 years, 11 months ago)

Language Perversion is a bitch....
Pun intended.

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Re: why do we disrespect the drugs we use? [Re: zen buddy]
    #10674073 - 07/14/09 08:55 AM (14 years, 11 months ago)

Quote:

zen buddy said:
Why do people who apparently enjoy these drugs use such negative words to describe the effect?

marijuana -- stoned, baked, fried, wasted
LSD -- Fry, fucked up, acid

Why don't more people use words like high and wonderful experience?

Why don't we think about the possible negative effect these words could be having on our experience or how others view our experience?

Can anyone think of some more examples?





You seem to care a lot about what other people do and think. Did you ever for a moment consider that other people don't feel the way that you do and that their feelings are just as valid and possibly correct as yours are? Did ya? Did ya ever?

Besides whats important for you is how you relate to the drug experience. :thumbup:


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Re: why do we disrespect the drugs we use? [Re: Icelander]
    #10674092 - 07/14/09 08:59 AM (14 years, 11 months ago)

Quote:

Icelander said:
Quote:

zen buddy said:
Why do people who apparently enjoy these drugs use such negative words to describe the effect?

marijuana -- stoned, baked, fried, wasted
LSD -- Fry, fucked up, acid

Why don't more people use words like high and wonderful experience?

Why don't we think about the possible negative effect these words could be having on our experience or how others view our experience?

Can anyone think of some more examples?





You seem to care a lot about what other people do and think. Did you ever for a moment consider that other people don't feel the way that you do and that their feelings are just as valid and possibly correct as yours are? Did ya? Did ya ever?

Besides whats important for you is how you relate to the drug experience. :thumbup:




...and you're missing the point, again.

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Re: why do we disrespect the drugs we use? [Re: zen buddy]
    #10674100 - 07/14/09 09:00 AM (14 years, 11 months ago)

You have a point?:whoa:

Again those words are negative to you and maybe not to them.


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Re: why do we disrespect the drugs we use? [Re: zen buddy]
    #10674112 - 07/14/09 09:03 AM (14 years, 11 months ago)

I have a feeling you know the answer to your own question.

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Re: why do we disrespect the drugs we use? [Re: Icelander]
    #10674143 - 07/14/09 09:09 AM (14 years, 11 months ago)

Quote:

Icelander said:
You have a point?:whoa:

Again those words are negative to you and maybe not to them.




How can you not see the negative meaning in a negative word?

These people might not see any problem with the words they are using but they are not taking into account the negative effect it is having on the drug using community as a whole.

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Re: why do we disrespect the drugs we use? [Re: Fraggin]
    #10674156 - 07/14/09 09:11 AM (14 years, 11 months ago)

Quote:

Fraggin said:
I have a feeling you know the answer to your own question.




It is something that I would like to understand better.

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Re: why do we disrespect the drugs we use? [Re: zen buddy]
    #10674172 - 07/14/09 09:16 AM (14 years, 11 months ago)

I'm part of the drug using community and it doesn't effect my experience? When I take a psychedelic I'm rarely thinking about what someone else may call it. :shrug:

I have come to realize that what others do and say is out of my realm of control and if I focus on it then I distract myself from what I can control. I gave up on the idea that my concepts are anything but my concepts and cannot be used to change a wider reality. It's taken me a long time to begin to use this knowledge to my advantage.


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Edited by Icelander (07/14/09 09:17 AM)

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Re: why do we disrespect the drugs we use? [Re: Icelander]
    #10674198 - 07/14/09 09:24 AM (14 years, 11 months ago)

I only use the words tripping, high or inebriated.

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Re: why do we disrespect the drugs we use? [Re: zen buddy]
    #10674208 - 07/14/09 09:25 AM (14 years, 11 months ago)

dude, you must've been so SHITFACED when you came up with the premise for this thread.

SHIT.  FACED.


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