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SuchSmartMonkeys
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Re: Good Fruiting, bad mycelium [pics] [Re: prismism]
#10658842 - 07/11/09 03:34 PM (14 years, 11 months ago) |
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yeah, Quote:
prismism said:
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SuchSmartMonkeys said: looks like two kinds of mold to me, forest green mold AND trich... good work, 2 contams on one cake.
errr emmmmmm. eh hem* trich is green mold.
yeah, but i don't know the latin name for what people refer to as the "forest green mold" it's that darker green mold that isn't as powdery as the trich. I know trichoderma is a mold that is green as well... sorry for being silly and mixing latin and common names in the same sentence...
and hey rico! i'm actually over on the big island right now. found a new place to work, not digging it the most right now though, think i might come back to maui, get a place in pukalani with josh and turn it into mush palace...
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Re: Good Fruiting, bad mycelium [pics] [Re: system32]
#10924706 - 08/24/09 03:39 AM (14 years, 10 months ago) |
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THATS GREEN MOLD IDIOT!!....seriously.....how smart do u not have to be to know this? ive only been doing this for like a month now and i knew that. quit asking questions and look it up. thats what the rest of us do before we ask dumb questions.
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who cares what it is, there is no way of knowing for sure without a microscope, which obviously you don't have. What's the friggin point of asking questions, it's a contamn, get rid of the damn thing.
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Re: Good Fruiting, bad mycelium [pics] [Re: xtofury]
#10924737 - 08/24/09 04:08 AM (14 years, 10 months ago) |
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pick the shrooms take it outside with some peroxide and water and dunk and scrub if you really want to... but leave it outside to fruit... rinse it off roll it in verm and try your luck? It's up to you or after you do all of the above toss it in a bucket of verm. I've fruited contamed cakes before like this with the same crap but if you ask anyone they will tell you the same... toss it.
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Re: Good Fruiting, bad mycelium [pics] [Re: UFOz8MyGoat]
#10924746 - 08/24/09 04:14 AM (14 years, 10 months ago) |
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cakes just aren't worth rescuing, they are a dime a dozen anyways. Just chuck it outdoors and hope for something later. If you feel so motivated towards rescuing a cake, then obviously you aren't growing enough of them, so grow more.
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Re: Good Fruiting, bad mycelium [pics] [Re: xtofury]
#10924759 - 08/24/09 04:23 AM (14 years, 10 months ago) |
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It is a contam yes obviously. But I do remember reading something that states something to the effect of all green molds will not harm you if eaten. This thread is over a month old BTW so he already probably did something with it people.
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Re: Good Fruiting, bad mycelium [pics] [Re: Triptonic]
#10924773 - 08/24/09 04:32 AM (14 years, 10 months ago) |
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and someone is gunna be dumb enough to try and identify a mold by sight alone? My god that is dumb, sorta like playing russian roulette. It could be trich, with pennicillin, or aspergillis.... who the heck knows, there really is no way to tell FOR CERTAIN with just a picture or even with the cake in your face to know for sure....
I just saw the thread on the first page and I figured I would post because I've seen a few similar questions and I think it is stupid to eat anything with any mold on it period. Would you eat a slice of bread that came from a bag that had other moldy slices in it, simply because you don't see any mold on that slice? I wouldn't. I would just chuck it out... I can't believe some of the suggestions on here. Why on earth would people treat mushies any different than anything else they would eat? The only acception to the mold rule I would ever make would be with cheese (because it is dense enough that you can just cut the mold off, and see if the inside is colonized which usually it isn't unless the whole damn block has turned green/blue or whatever color the mold is).
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Re: Good Fruiting, bad mycelium [pics] [Re: xtofury]
#10924781 - 08/24/09 04:37 AM (14 years, 10 months ago) |
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RR said this
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This has been posted and answered dozens of times. There is absolutely NOTHING toxic to humans in green molds. Don't sniff the spores as if they were a line of coke, but eating mushrooms from a cake or casing with green mold is totally harmless. Enjoy your harvest. RR
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Re: Good Fruiting, bad mycelium [pics] [Re: Triptonic]
#10924789 - 08/24/09 04:42 AM (14 years, 10 months ago) |
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does this include blue molds? What about that yellow/beige?
I'm guessing the blue is pennicillin, and the yellow/beige is yeast, but once again, this is just a guess, and when it comes to my health I don't like guessing.
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Re: Good Fruiting, bad mycelium [pics] [Re: xtofury]
#10924791 - 08/24/09 04:44 AM (14 years, 10 months ago) |
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Does it say blue and yellow/beige? Didnt think so. Only green.
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Re: Good Fruiting, bad mycelium [pics] [Re: Triptonic]
#10924793 - 08/24/09 04:45 AM (14 years, 10 months ago) |
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not trying to start an arguement just saying green is fine.
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Re: Good Fruiting, bad mycelium [pics] [Re: Triptonic]
#10924796 - 08/24/09 04:49 AM (14 years, 10 months ago) |
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no but if you look at the pic in the first post you can see the blue & beige colors on the cake.
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Re: Good Fruiting, bad mycelium [pics] [Re: xtofury]
#10924798 - 08/24/09 04:50 AM (14 years, 10 months ago) |
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hmmm that's always good to know I didn't know that, I haven't had that problem yet, my cakes don't seem to contamn once consolidated. I just chuckem before that ever happens... like really what's the point, seems to get me what I want anyways, and I really don't mind the *limited* amount of work it takes to make a cake, though the bulk subs are a little time consuming, perhaps my attitude will change once I get a contamned mono.
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Re: Good Fruiting, bad mycelium [pics] [Re: xtofury]
#10924799 - 08/24/09 04:51 AM (14 years, 10 months ago) |
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I wasnt arguing that I was saying green molds were fine. And also this thread is a month old. Meaning that guy already did something with that cake most likely. I dont know why the first guy came on here and flamed him when all he seems to be able to grow is cobweb mold.
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Re: Good Fruiting, bad mycelium [pics] [Re: Triptonic]
#10924804 - 08/24/09 04:52 AM (14 years, 10 months ago) |
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lol so what did the first poster do with it? Since this thread isn't dead yet?
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Re: Good Fruiting, bad mycelium [pics] [Re: xtofury]
#10924812 - 08/24/09 04:57 AM (14 years, 10 months ago) |
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C'mon man gimme a break . I said "most likely" . I just dont get the point of one noob flaming another noob for asking a question. At least the OP had pictures which is more I can say for most noobs out there. Most people are like "Whats wrong with my stuff". And they dont even have pictures.
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Re: Good Fruiting, bad mycelium [pics] [Re: Triptonic]
#10924822 - 08/24/09 05:03 AM (14 years, 10 months ago) |
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Triptonic said: RR said this
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This has been posted and answered dozens of times. There is absolutely NOTHING toxic to humans in green molds. Don't sniff the spores as if they were a line of coke, but eating mushrooms from a cake or casing with green mold is totally harmless. Enjoy your harvest. RR
Nice quote Trip.
Also, trichoderma has many species. I'm not a contam expert but that is trich all right. I've seen many different shades of green/blue in my day. 
The big problem with trich is that it is everywhere. It is a problem for commercial growers and they have to interrupt their cycles to sanitize the environment before they can get back to growing. I think this is where the disgust and 'danger-danger' response comes from in the amateur myc world.
Trich will not hurt you. I probably would have let those shrooms mature and threw the cake into an outdoor grow. Or picked them then did the same thing. Small shrooms rock your socks as everyone knows.
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Re: Good Fruiting, bad mycelium [pics] [Re: Triptonic]
#10924824 - 08/24/09 05:04 AM (14 years, 10 months ago) |
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lmao yeah I've noticed that too. I can't tell you how many times I've asked for pics, some post 'em, most don't if they haven't already.
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Re: Good Fruiting, bad mycelium [pics] [Re: xtofury]
#10924831 - 08/24/09 05:07 AM (14 years, 10 months ago) |
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Then we are in agreence
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agent_wonderbread said: THATS GREEN MOLD IDIOT!!....seriously.....how smart do u not have to be to know this? ive only been doing this for like a month now and i knew that. quit asking questions and look it up. thats what the rest of us do before we ask dumb questions.
Who the hell is this guy? Watch your mouth sir. This forum is for growing mushrooms, not insulting people. While going against the rules, insulting someone is just disgusting.
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