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Taking MDMA to help Social Anxiety?
    #10641241 - 07/08/09 11:03 AM (14 years, 7 months ago)

So I've always had real bad social anxiety.

I've recently acquired a couple doses of Molly and was thinking about how and where to take it.

At first I was going to do it with a friend and then go out to a rave or something -- But my social anxiety is 100x worse when I'm ALONE and around other people. So I really wanna combat this.

I was thinking about doing something like this. I live close to the border of Canada where there is a good nightlife going on (TONS of different nightclubs, bars, etc all right next to eachother). So I was thinking about traveling over there by myself and then taking the molly.

Like I said I have two doses so I was thinking the most efficient way to do it would be one week on, one week off. So it would be like:

Weekend #1: Take Molly -- Go
Weekend #2: Don't take anything.. see if I've changed at all, try to talk to people normally, etc.
Weekend #3: Take dose #2 of Molly, go at it
Weekend #4: Again, go out sober

Basically I'm trying to use MDMA to decondition myself from this social anxiety I've been dealing with and than measuring my progress by going to the same place without it the following week. What do you guys think?


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Re: Taking MDMA to help Social Anxiety? [Re: phx1]
    #10641258 - 07/08/09 11:08 AM (14 years, 7 months ago)

just don't let molly become a habit. I think it should be used to realize why you have been anxious and, more importantly, come to accept it. don't keep dosing to try and distract yourself from your feelings

but it seems like you have the right idea
the molly will make you more comfortable with yourself and others
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Re: Taking MDMA to help Social Anxiety? [Re: ChiefGreenLeaf]
    #10641294 - 07/08/09 11:15 AM (14 years, 7 months ago)

it'll make your overall anxiety worse with continued use



while you're on it, it will definitely help your social anxiety, but then probably so would cocaine...
I would definitely recommend MDMA over that though, just be aware it can become a habit that will definitely affect your anxiety with persisted use

personally I have found that a low dose of LSD or sometimes LSA is much better for healing social anxiety, and lasts far longer than the experience. Although when you're on it you may find it difficult to express ideas to others, or even be around some, but you may be left with a greater sense of being confident in being yourself. Just some thoughts, hope it all works out :shrug:


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Re: Taking MDMA to help Social Anxiety? [Re: the bizzle]
    #10641326 - 07/08/09 11:20 AM (14 years, 7 months ago)

Thanks for the replies. And yes, I'm aware of the potentials risks with habitual use-- which is why I'm doing one week on, one week off.. I only have two doses so this will be a 1 month thing. The doses will be spread two weeks apart. And I'll be going sober in between the two doses. How much safer can I be?


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Re: Taking MDMA to help Social Anxiety? [Re: phx1]
    #10641334 - 07/08/09 11:22 AM (14 years, 7 months ago)

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phx1 said:
Thanks for the replies. And yes, I'm aware of the potentials risks with habitual use-- which is why I'm doing one week on, one week off.. I only have two doses so this will be a 1 month thing. The doses will be spread two weeks apart. And I'll be going sober in between the two doses. How much safer can I be?




that sounds pretty good


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Re: Taking MDMA to help Social Anxiety? [Re: phx1]
    #10641387 - 07/08/09 11:32 AM (14 years, 7 months ago)

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phx1 said:
Thanks for the replies. And yes, I'm aware of the potentials risks with habitual use-- which is why I'm doing one week on, one week off.. I only have two doses so this will be a 1 month thing. The doses will be spread two weeks apart. And I'll be going sober in between the two doses. How much safer can I be?




In my opinion, one dose of MDMA each month would be a better option. The molly will certainly help your anxiety while under the influence but I cant imagine it helping in the long run.


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Re: Taking MDMA to help Social Anxiety? [Re: phx1]
    #10641890 - 07/08/09 01:26 PM (14 years, 7 months ago)

Xanax works


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Re: Taking MDMA to help Social Anxiety? [Re: AmericanPsycho]
    #10641916 - 07/08/09 01:32 PM (14 years, 7 months ago)

"Basically I'm trying to use MDMA to decondition myself from this social anxiety "

Dude, are you dumb? It looks like your really young, taking E and going to a club with your condition aint gonna do SHIT!!

If you want to do what i think u imply - u should take E AT HOME, with close friends and comfortable enviroment!! Forget the club for now!!

Stay home and meditate whats causing your anxiety!!


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Re: Taking MDMA to help Social Anxiety? [Re: AmericanPsycho]
    #10641935 - 07/08/09 01:36 PM (14 years, 7 months ago)

OP, I am pretty comfortable socially, and I would feel awkward rolling alone in an out of town bar.

The rave with a friend sounds like a better atmosphere.

You said that being alone makes your anxiety 100x worse.

Why face that head-on?

Take baby steps.



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Re: Taking MDMA to help Social Anxiety? [Re: desant]
    #10641965 - 07/08/09 01:43 PM (14 years, 7 months ago)

So what happens if it really works for ya? You gon' keep dosing on E, man? I'm sure the xanax is better for your brain with continual use... Good luck dude, I know how it feels.


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Re: Taking MDMA to help Social Anxiety? [Re: m00nshine]
    #10641996 - 07/08/09 01:50 PM (14 years, 7 months ago)

I had awful social anxiety in high school and first year in college, it just went away after i discovered weed and other  things which captured my attention away from social phobias


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Re: Taking MDMA to help Social Anxiety? [Re: phx1]
    #10642131 - 07/08/09 02:17 PM (14 years, 7 months ago)

The best way to overcome this social anxiety is to address the core issue it all stems from. In TiHKAL, Ann Shulgin recounts some of her experiences using MDMA to treat such psychological issues and it appears to really help (you should read it, its online).

MDMA with some close friends whom you can be completely open with will definitely make your life better, it will take some work, but it is a completely worthwhile endeavour. Recently, I've been experimenting with substituted cathinones and me and my very close knit group of friends have done some serious group therapy work with this and the results on the whole have been immensely positive.

These drugs are tools, its all about how you use them, as no drug is a cure for any psychological "illness", the only thing that can rectify that sort of mess is yourself.


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Re: Taking MDMA to help Social Anxiety? [Re: Cepheus]
    #10642348 - 07/08/09 02:59 PM (14 years, 7 months ago)

MDMA will only help social anxiety while you're on the high, when you start coming down you'll feel just as bad as before if not much worse now that your serotonin is depleted.

I suggest only using MDMA, if you work hard to get as much as you can out of the experience(which is sometimes hard when you're rolling balls)--thoughts are often so 'perfect' that nothing seems wrong anymore and users go into complete denial. Their worlds crash when they sober up and realize it wasn't real.


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Re: Taking MDMA to help Social Anxiety? [Re: Neuron]
    #10642582 - 07/08/09 03:43 PM (14 years, 7 months ago)

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Neuron said:
MDMA will only help social anxiety while you're on the high, when you start coming down you'll feel just as bad as before if not much worse now that your serotonin is depleted.




yeah that's definitely true, I always felt like shit aferwards and still my normal anti-social self.


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Re: Taking MDMA to help Social Anxiety? [Re: AmericanPsycho]
    #10652657 - 07/10/09 12:10 PM (14 years, 7 months ago)

I'm not worried about it becoming a habit. I actually have very good self-control. The fact that I'm even thinking this out and planning to do it within the confines of a certain set and setting is more than most people. And really I just want to prove to myself that I can do it. And if I can do it on Molly I sure as hell can do it when I'm not on Molly. Just having that door open temporarily and being able to look inside and to have the first-hand experience of it is highly beneficial towards the greater goal of taking what you've learned and shaping it into your normal consciousness.


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Re: Taking MDMA to help Social Anxiety? [Re: phx1]
    #10652695 - 07/10/09 12:17 PM (14 years, 7 months ago)

you should prolly see a doctor if its that bad you need to self medicate with x.


Other than that best cure is to just find your niche, not everyone is gonna like you but invariably someone will, then surround yourself with those people who like you. 

taking x for a treatment without doctors note is foolish.  taking e with some friend cause you wanna vibe a while is awesome.

my 2 cents.


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Re: Taking MDMA to help Social Anxiety? [Re: phx1]
    #10652732 - 07/10/09 12:21 PM (14 years, 7 months ago)

best way to overcome social anxiety is to do your research and find methods that work for you.. one of the more effective ones is 'flooding', pretty much putting yourself into every possible social situation you can, regardless of the anxiety. after its over, write in a journal about the experience, your feelings, and how the thoughts of anxiety are irrational in relation to, the grand scheme of life.

try to avoid taking drugs to solve your problems. this should always be done on a sober mind. though more difficult, it is much more rewarding, and effective.


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