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Re: Everything you fear is an aspect of yourself you are afraid to face [Re: Tibetan]
#10638537 - 07/07/09 09:14 PM (14 years, 7 months ago) |
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blewmeanie said: I see you disabled ratings, it looks like someones afraid of criticism. 
Looks can be deceiving. Why do 10 people have you on ignore? Looks like you are a pompous ...
I guess certain little pussies get upset because I didn't put IMO.
Keep doling out that sage like wisdom oh great unpompous one
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Re: Everything you fear is an aspect of yourself you are afraid to face [Re: deCypher]
#10638620 - 07/07/09 09:27 PM (14 years, 7 months ago) |
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deCypher said: Not sure what you mean then. I've always overcome my fears by trusting in myself and not in any external being.
It depends on your view of life I guess. I believe that there is a lot more going on behind the scenes and below the surface than most people believe. Like I said subconscious things that aren't in the psychology books.
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Re: Everything you fear is an aspect of yourself you are afraid to face [Re: deCypher]
#10638880 - 07/07/09 10:01 PM (14 years, 7 months ago) |
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I think when he says god he is referring to the all-encompassing universal entity that is composed of everything and that everything composes. Hopefully that's what he means at least.
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Re: Everything you fear is an aspect of yourself you are afraid to face [Re: Lysenergy]
#10639057 - 07/07/09 10:26 PM (14 years, 7 months ago) |
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Lysenergy said: I think when he says god he is referring to the all-encompassing universal entity that is composed of everything and that everything composes. Hopefully that's what he means at least.
Basically, yes.
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Re: Everything you fear is an aspect of yourself you are afraid to face [Re: Tibetan]
#10639539 - 07/07/09 11:50 PM (14 years, 7 months ago) |
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Tibetan said: It depends on your view of life I guess. I believe that there is a lot more going on behind the scenes and below the surface than most people believe. Like I said subconscious things that aren't in the psychology books.
How much psychology are you actually versed in?
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Re: Everything you fear is an aspect of yourself you are afraid to face [Re: Tibetan]
#10639944 - 07/08/09 01:52 AM (14 years, 7 months ago) |
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Tibetan said: So you have to hand the mess over to god and he will fix it. People are afraid because they don't trust god.
What does that mean though? How do I hand my mess over to god?
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Re: Everything you fear is an aspect of yourself you are afraid to face [Re: Jufin]
#10640638 - 07/08/09 08:32 AM (14 years, 7 months ago) |
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I know a little psychology, but I really don't think that western medicine gets it.
How I handed it over was not easy. I spent the entire trip facing fear. We encountered walls that made me want to abort the trip, but the spirits helped me work through it.
It was boiled down into a fear of letting go. They said to let go of everything and that I cling to my fear because it is what I believe anchors me into life.
So I had to go directly into the fear until I got far enough where I could let go of every thing. It has been a fear of mine of really letting go of the ego and experience ego loss.
This may all be just applicable to me and intertwined with my beliefs. I shouldn't expect anyone to really get what I mean. I would have to explain a thousand posts worth of introductory material. It is a lot easier with pictures the mushrooms provide.
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Re: Everything you fear is an aspect of yourself you are afraid to face [Re: Tibetan]
#10640808 - 07/08/09 09:25 AM (14 years, 7 months ago) |
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What you're describing is ego death, that amazing feeling of letting go... I don't think it has anything to do with god though.
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Re: Everything you fear is an aspect of yourself you are afraid to face [Re: Jufin]
#10640828 - 07/08/09 09:31 AM (14 years, 7 months ago) |
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i am god
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Re: Everything you fear is an aspect of yourself you are afraid to face [Re: stzacrack]
#10640838 - 07/08/09 09:33 AM (14 years, 7 months ago) |
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and will solve all your problems tibetan
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Tibetan
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Re: Everything you fear is an aspect of yourself you are afraid to face [Re: Jufin]
#10640902 - 07/08/09 09:47 AM (14 years, 7 months ago) |
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Jufin said: What you're describing is ego death, that amazing feeling of letting go... I don't think it has anything to do with god though.
That's just your opinion and that is fine. Your opinion is no more correct than mine, except that I know my subjective experiences which are different than yours. I see god as an abstract concept. People are very quick to apply the christian dogma into the word god. I am more than willing to change my mind, but I doubt anyone on this board can make a post that will do that.
What do you think sat with me and talked me through my fear of letting go? Who ever it was, was able to accurately identified what was going on and why then showed me how to over come it.
I switched from LSD to mushrooms about a year ago. I have am developing a trust in the mushroom that I never had with LSD. I feel that on mushrooms there is an intelligence with me watching out for me.
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Re: Everything you fear is an aspect of yourself you are afraid to face [Re: Tibetan]
#10641087 - 07/08/09 10:23 AM (14 years, 7 months ago) |
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Tibetan.. first I want to share that I'm not posting in this to argue with you, so please don't take this as some sort of shot.
Your posts here contradict themselves a couple of times, in some senses. However, I feel exactly what you're talking about, and hopefully I can help clarify some of it.
The idea of 'handing over' your fears/problems to another entity, whether it's the Hebrew God, or Allah, or a being of light would be in theory very weak and selfish. That would be the equivalent of me having my car catch on fire, and parking it in my neighbor's garage and letting them deal with it when it blows up. All in all, the only way to overcome your own fears is to face them and let go of this world.
Hence the term 'Loss of Ego'. It's the realization that there is indeed more to this all encompassing energy than just you, and letting yourself fall into the pure power that is existence. Once you do this, your fears become much less important, and laughable when you look back to how they used to control you.
And as far as what sat with you through your fear of letting go, and helped you to do so, that was you, and everyone, and everything. We're all a part of each other, and whether or not you realize it now, you know everything. Psychedelics help you to tap into parts of your being that are shut off by this superimposed reality. The more you do, the more you remember, and the more you can expand into everything.
What you have described happening to you is definitely letting go. Whether you feel that is with a god, or yourself is irrelevant. You're waking up...
Don't sit here and argue with the people who degrade your revelations. They will eventually wake up too. Share what you learn, learn from what you share, and keep growing. That's what matters.
Peace.
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Re: Everything you fear is an aspect of yourself you are afraid to face [Re: oddmanin]
#10641141 - 07/08/09 10:38 AM (14 years, 7 months ago) |
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Thank you, that is very helpful.
I am totally willing to admit I am confused about it and that is why I am here. I guess I didn't make it clear that I was repeating word for word what the entity told me. Since I have worked with these entities for many years I have learned to trust them. Perhaps what I was told was what I needed to hear to let go. It may not be true.
You see it doesn't matter, it got me over a hurdle and now we go to the next hurdle. Unfortunately people try to denigrate me because I said god. like you said someday they will wake up.
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Re: Everything you fear is an aspect of yourself you are afraid to face [Re: deCypher]
#10647632 - 07/09/09 01:52 PM (14 years, 7 months ago) |
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Jeez Minstrel... way to attack people for their beliefs with a real lack of maturity while fully admitting you take enjoyment in attacking others for thinking differently.
Your on an ethical level no better than a Neo Nazi except instead of harassing others for their ethnicity you harass them for their completely passive belief system.
While I'm an Agnostic and really can't agree with either of you what I will say is your neurotic confrontational attitude is sickening. My advice is stop trying to prove people wrong and start working on becoming a better human being because man I don't have to assume anything when I say people like you offer nothing but your own neurosis and anger to the picture and that's more pathetic than any religious belief.
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Re: Everything you fear is an aspect of yourself you are afraid to face [Re: Tesla]
#10647761 - 07/09/09 02:18 PM (14 years, 7 months ago) |
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Someday he will realize that the issues he faces are within himself. It is pretty sad really.
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Re: Everything you fear is an aspect of yourself you are afraid to face [Re: Tesla]
#10647884 - 07/09/09 02:38 PM (14 years, 7 months ago) |
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Thank you for voicing your displeasure. It will be duly considered.
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Re: Everything you fear is an aspect of yourself you are afraid to face [Re: Minstrel]
#10649069 - 07/09/09 06:52 PM (14 years, 7 months ago) |
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Good to hear because a scientific discovery doesn't make up for a personal lack of class or dignity.
Science is a process not an excuse for personal weakness.
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