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Re: Liquid spawn: Slurry In a Hurry Spawn: Without the spawn [Re: Edmunter] 1
#21510524 - 04/06/15 02:16 PM (9 years, 2 months ago) |
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One of the tubs from the first slurry run. It looks kind of spindly, but that is actually just the way this culture grows, I've run it several times over the last year or two and it throws rust spores regularly. 
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Re: Liquid spawn: Slurry In a Hurry Spawn: Without the spawn [Re: grainbrain] 1
#21511146 - 04/06/15 04:39 PM (9 years, 2 months ago) |
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Nice work!
I inoculated 10 - 8 quart spawn bags filled with freshly sterilized whole oats with a wheat bran slurry comprised of 1 part cake to 2 parts freshly sterilized water this morning via' the free-pour method. Blended the concoction for a few short bursts until the cake was fully processed by the blender, then a 10-15 second consecutive blending duration was applied. Easy as 1-2-3.
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Re: Liquid spawn: Slurry In a Hurry Spawn: Without the spawn [Re: hamloaf] 1
#21511288 - 04/06/15 05:20 PM (9 years, 2 months ago) |
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Oh wow, look at that mycelium milk shake. Nice!
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Re: Liquid spawn: Slurry In a Hurry Spawn: Without the spawn [Re: camplo]
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Re: Liquid spawn: Slurry In a Hurry Spawn: Without the spawn [Re: tripdawg420] 1
#21511364 - 04/06/15 05:41 PM (9 years, 2 months ago) |
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"mycelium milkshake" 
That "milkshake" smelled like sweet mushroom mycelium.
Every time the lid was removed from the Eberbach the scent of sweet mushroom mycelium would go wafting through the air.
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Re: Liquid spawn: Slurry In a Hurry Spawn: Without the spawn [Re: hamloaf]
#21512532 - 04/06/15 09:30 PM (9 years, 2 months ago) |
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hamloaf said: Nice work!
I inoculated 10 - 8 quart spawn bags filled with freshly sterilized whole oats with a wheat bran slurry comprised of 1 part cake to 2 parts freshly sterilized water this morning via' the free-pour method. Blended the concoction for a few short bursts until the cake was fully processed by the blender, then a 10-15 second consecutive blending duration was applied. Easy as 1-2-3.

Have you found for those types of grain that 1 part grain 2 parts water works best? I just did 2 part grains to 1 part water and the consistency was like oatmeal - since I didn't want to risk losing the jar, I went ahead with the 30 jar inoculation. Just now all the jars have a tablespoon of oatmeal sitting in it and it doesn't seem to be doing much for colonization.
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Re: Liquid spawn: Slurry In a Hurry Spawn: Without the spawn [Re: thisisfielding]
#21514073 - 04/07/15 09:00 AM (9 years, 2 months ago) |
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Still learning. Just going by what users "grainbrain", and "eatyualive" sugested as far as the ratio of cake per water.
That's another thing. The inoculm used is a blended up PF cake. Not a grain slurry. Those guys suggested a 1 part cake to two parts water ratio, so that's what I did.
As far as grain slurries, I am not sure if the guys have a separate suggested ratio of colonized grains to water, or not.
What I do remember is eatyualive stating that he likes to inoculate his grains with the PF cake slurry, and inoculating bulk substrates with a grain slurry. Makes sense to me.
The one time I tried a grains slurry, I didn't too much care for it either, but I did a few things wrong, so I am not so quick to knock the grain slurry method.
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Re: Liquid spawn: Slurry In a Hurry Spawn: Without the spawn [Re: hamloaf]
#21514106 - 04/07/15 09:11 AM (9 years, 2 months ago) |
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Having tried both a 2:1 and 1:1 water to cake ratio, I'm going with 1.5:1 next time.
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Re: Liquid spawn: Slurry In a Hurry Spawn: Without the spawn [Re: Edmunter]
#21514108 - 04/07/15 09:11 AM (9 years, 2 months ago) |
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Edmunter said: How long do u consolidate your jars befor blending?
Also if you make a tub without gypsum what can go wrong and
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Re: Liquid spawn: Slurry In a Hurry Spawn: Without the spawn [Re: Edmunter]
#21514616 - 04/07/15 11:20 AM (9 years, 2 months ago) |
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I know earlier in the thread someone made a slurry with a cake that was pinning. I have some pucks that have been sitting for weeks and have some rather large in vitro mushys growing , my question is ...does anyone have a reason I shouldn't blend these bad boys up (sh rooms and all) and noc up some muda style pp5? The slurry will be going into a really rich hpoo/straw/brf/gyp/coir mix in quart size pp5. And they'll be fruited in the containers in a mono.
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Re: Liquid spawn: Slurry In a Hurry Spawn: Without the spawn [Re: tourrat]
#21515481 - 04/07/15 03:31 PM (9 years, 2 months ago) |
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I guess I misunderstood I thought it was 2 parts grain to 1 part water.
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Re: Liquid spawn: Slurry In a Hurry Spawn: Without the spawn [Re: hamloaf]
#21516419 - 04/07/15 07:06 PM (9 years, 2 months ago) |
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hamloaf said: Nice work!
I inoculated 10 - 8 quart spawn bags filled with freshly sterilized whole oats with a wheat bran slurry comprised of 1 part cake to 2 parts freshly sterilized water this morning via' the free-pour method. Blended the concoction for a few short bursts until the cake was fully processed by the blender, then a 10-15 second consecutive blending duration was applied. Easy as 1-2-3.

you have a really nice texture with that blend! i bet it stuck really well. also in spawn bags, after you seal the bag. mix it all up by hand and try and distribute the slurry everywhere touching all parts of the grain. take about a minute or two if its a big bag.
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Re: Liquid spawn: Slurry In a Hurry Spawn: Without the spawn [Re: grainbrain] 1
#21516431 - 04/07/15 07:08 PM (9 years, 2 months ago) |
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grainbrain said: One of the tubs from the first slurry run. It looks kind of spindly, but that is actually just the way this culture grows, I've run it several times over the last year or two and it throws rust spores regularly. 

nice. ive grow out a ton of different cubes with it and i get great results. doesn't really matter which cube. even ape. which are usually a bit slower for me. but they have been doing really well.
did you case that tub?
hey also, thanks for trying it! as far as difficulty how hard was it really? like anything your not used to it takes a little practice but not much. liquids in general are a bit of a fine art. any people who constantly dis liquids and haven't really tried them really have no idea. one thing i can't stand is when someone constantly comments and posts things about liquids and gives directions and directives on them. but has never done one. psshhhhh
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Re: Liquid spawn: Slurry In a Hurry Spawn: Without the spawn [Re: thisisfielding]
#21516445 - 04/07/15 07:12 PM (9 years, 2 months ago) |
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thisisfielding said: Have you found for those types of grain that 1 part grain 2 parts water works best? I just did 2 part grains to 1 part water and the consistency was like oatmeal - since I didn't want to risk losing the jar, I went ahead with the 30 jar inoculation. Just now all the jars have a tablespoon of oatmeal sitting in it and it doesn't seem to be doing much for colonization.
hey read this post, it was a while back. but it shows two different wasys i did this. one is, you use the muddier type oatmeal texture and then you can also use the more liquid GLC type mixture. The GLC takes about 2-3 days longer to catch than the muddier consistency. its a little odd when you do it, but it does work. it may depend what type of grain your using that may call for a slight adjustment to the recipe. so it might help if you add a small amount of water to your ratio. maybe try 2:1.5 parts of grain to water. you can even go 2:1 water to grain on the grain slurries and they still work. This also allows you to do triple the amount of jars because the GLC goes much further!
http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/21242497#21242497
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Re: Liquid spawn: Slurry In a Hurry Spawn: Without the spawn [Re: eatyualive] 1
#21516576 - 04/07/15 07:48 PM (9 years, 2 months ago) |
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eatyualive said:
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hamloaf said: Nice work!
I inoculated 10 - 8 quart spawn bags filled with freshly sterilized whole oats with a wheat bran slurry comprised of 1 part cake to 2 parts freshly sterilized water this morning via' the free-pour method. Blended the concoction for a few short bursts until the cake was fully processed by the blender, then a 10-15 second consecutive blending duration was applied. Easy as 1-2-3.

you have a really nice texture with that blend! i bet it stuck really well. also in spawn bags, after you seal the bag. mix it all up by hand and try and distribute the slurry everywhere touching all parts of the grain. take about a minute or two if its a big bag.
Oh goodsir, It's like you know me all too well for that is EXACTLY what I did (distribute the slurry with a short knead of the bags just prior inoculation).
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Re: Liquid spawn: Slurry In a Hurry Spawn: Without the spawn [Re: hamloaf] 1
#21516587 - 04/07/15 07:51 PM (9 years, 2 months ago) |
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nice is that rye berry?
its as easy as blending a milk shake and pouring it lol...
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Re: Liquid spawn: Slurry In a Hurry Spawn: Without the spawn [Re: eatyualive]
#21516611 - 04/07/15 07:58 PM (9 years, 2 months ago) |
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Nah, that's wheat bran slurry, and yea. I am really sold on the ease of the free-pour method of liquid inoculant into spawn bags while I stand straight up, in the sterile air of my flowhood.
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Re: Liquid spawn: Slurry In a Hurry Spawn: Without the spawn [Re: eatyualive] 1
#21516614 - 04/07/15 07:59 PM (9 years, 2 months ago) |
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eatyualive said:
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grainbrain said: One of the tubs from the first slurry run. It looks kind of spindly, but that is actually just the way this culture grows, I've run it several times over the last year or two and it throws rust spores regularly. 

nice. ive grow out a ton of different cubes with it and i get great results. doesn't really matter which cube. even ape. which are usually a bit slower for me. but they have been doing really well.
did you case that tub?
hey also, thanks for trying it! as far as difficulty how hard was it really? like anything your not used to it takes a little practice but not much. liquids in general are a bit of a fine art. any people who constantly dis liquids and haven't really tried them really have no idea. one thing i can't stand is when someone constantly comments and posts things about liquids and gives directions and directives on them. but has never done one. psshhhhh
I try to only repeat the good info. 
The pictured tub is not cased, though one of the slurried minimonos did get cased, as I had extra from my another project. It is just getting ready to pin.
It was a little awkward at first due to having to use a corded drill. Once blended, it was easy. Thanks to the flowhood, I was able to leave the lid off of the slurry jar for the entire time, rested the spoon on the lip of the jar & just went for it.
Thanks for bringing this over from topia & having enough awesome photos to get me motivated. I still have tubs colonizing from my pinning cake & hope they blow up.
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Re: Liquid spawn: Slurry In a Hurry Spawn: Without the spawn [Re: hamloaf]
#21516616 - 04/07/15 07:59 PM (9 years, 2 months ago) |
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have you tried it with LI in big bags like that yet? with slurry the recovery starts about the end of the 2nd day and then by the next day it blows up. remember don't shake or break it up. let it do its thing. im able to leave the lid off my slurry during transfer in my shmuv as well! i don't normally suggest it to people just trying it out, but if you have liquid experience you pretty much have a feel for whats right already.
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Re: Liquid spawn: Slurry In a Hurry Spawn: Without the spawn [Re: Edmunter]
#21519609 - 04/08/15 02:08 PM (9 years, 2 months ago) |
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Edmunter said:
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Edmunter said: How long do u consolidate your jars befor blending?
Also if you make a tub without gypsum what can go wrong and
So just to add to these questions. Does this look healthy enough to slurry GS2G?
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