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eatyualive
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Re: Slurry Spawn or Liquid Inoculant [Re: grainbrain]
#21435858 - 03/20/15 01:36 PM (9 years, 3 months ago) |
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loaf, that full pint will do at least 100 jars. use 2:1 water to cake ratio.
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tourrat
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Re: Slurry Spawn or Liquid Inoculant [Re: eatyualive]
#21435921 - 03/20/15 01:54 PM (9 years, 3 months ago) |
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This tek is absolutely ridiculous. I slurried a jar..bumbled and fumbled like it was my first time using an Sab....three days and thickly colonized jars...AMAZING. I went a little overboard on the amount I used and the jars essentially turned into a mass of myc.lol thanks again for this thread .
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eatyualive
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Re: Slurry Spawn or Liquid Inoculant [Re: tourrat]
#21435939 - 03/20/15 02:00 PM (9 years, 3 months ago) |
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yeah the jars if you let them go a few days longer will be rock solid. i can't even break them up without a spoon if they colonized for 7 days. im not sure how many jars your doing but man. one pf jar makes enough spawn for 10 tubs in less than a week and your tubs are colonizing.
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Re: Slurry Spawn or Liquid Inoculant [Re: eatyualive]
#21436159 - 03/20/15 03:16 PM (9 years, 3 months ago) |
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Wait... So you can skip the slurry to grain transfer and go staight to a monotub?
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eatyualive
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Re: Slurry Spawn or Liquid Inoculant [Re: Mr. Penguin]
#21436388 - 03/20/15 04:18 PM (9 years, 3 months ago) |
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ive been blending grain slurries directly to bulk. the one below was only 1 quart slurried. the other 4 quarts were spawned normally. i also did a test on the original post with uncased 2 quart slurry to 9 quarts of substrate volume. its on slurry type 3 on the original post update.
http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/21339640#21339640
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Re: Slurry Spawn or Liquid Inoculant [Re: eatyualive]
#21436467 - 03/20/15 04:36 PM (9 years, 3 months ago) |
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I just want to say thanks! This tek has been transformative for me. Took me several times to get the kinks worked out, and a sacrificial Oster blender base. Turns out those do in fact melt when ran thru the PC. Pretty sure that was mentioned in the write up, but I must have been really high at the time. 
But yeah, this is by far one of the best tricks of the trade!
Thanks!
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eatyualive
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Fungus Mountain said: I just want to say thanks! This tek has been transformative for me. Took me several times to get the kinks worked out, and a sacrificial Oster blender base. Turns out those do in fact melt when ran thru the PC. Pretty sure that was mentioned in the write up, but I must have been really high at the time. 
But yeah, this is by far one of the best tricks of the trade!
Thanks!
don't pc the black base. you can simply wipe it down with bleach wipes prior to using it. i just wipe it down with bleach wipes, bring it into the clean area after i have done my transfer to the blender jar. then screw it on and blend it up. then you unscrew it again. and pour into the receiving jars. it was. but i melted one trying it as well. but you can order replacements at this site if in the us.
http://www.goodmans.net/d/1377/oster-blender-blades.htm
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Re: Slurry Spawn or Liquid Inoculant [Re: eatyualive]
#21436535 - 03/20/15 04:51 PM (9 years, 3 months ago) |
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Was just a brain fade is all. I did know better but was in a rush doing too many things. I haven't quite been able to get the 3 day performance you are able to achieve, but none the less it's a major time saver. Not to mention it give you a whole new way to look at cakes.
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shucks,,,
i need that to work for me!!!
Slurry for the furry hahaha...
eats is the man;) old buddy!
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eatyualive
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Fungus Mountain said: Was just a brain fade is all. I did know better but was in a rush doing too many things. I haven't quite been able to get the 3 day performance you are able to achieve, but none the less it's a major time saver. Not to mention it give you a whole new way to look at cakes.
yeah i know man. i get ahead of myself at times. it takes a little practice. whats is your average time so far? are you using rye berry? it may be faster on wbs. I don't use rye so im not sure.
after doing bulk for a long time, i began to look at cakes like a way to propagate a clone very quickly. i don't think of cakes as something to fruit off of but more a way to inoculate a large volume of spawn. its all mycelia whether its on agar, in liquid, in a pf jar or on corn cobb. it will expand and any way you choose to propagate it will work.
Edited by eatyualive (03/20/15 07:11 PM)
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Re: Slurry Spawn or Liquid Inoculant [Re: eatyualive]
#21438002 - 03/20/15 11:45 PM (9 years, 3 months ago) |
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So far the only grain I've got any exp with are oats. Average seems to be around the 5-6 day mark. I'll have to pay close attention. Its a larger kernel than WBS so I wonder if that would add a day or more in overall colonization time.
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eatyualive
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im not real sure. it may catch easier on the smaller grain as there are smaller spaces between them. that may be a reason its a little faster. got any pictures of it on oats?
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Re: Slurry Spawn or Liquid Inoculant [Re: eatyualive]
#21439315 - 03/21/15 12:25 PM (9 years, 3 months ago) |
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That would be the only reason. The difference in colonization times between the two grains are so minuscule that it would barely be noticeable by the naked eye. A minuscule difference in the favor of WBS during spawn run, yes, however, that minuscule difference is quite made up for by the larger grains at fruiting time.
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Re: Slurry Spawn or Liquid Inoculant [Re: hamloaf]
#21441620 - 03/22/15 12:10 AM (9 years, 3 months ago) |
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i was thinking that smaller BRF cakes would be better for less spawn jars
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Re: Slurry Spawn or Liquid Inoculant [Re: blackdust]
#21442283 - 03/22/15 08:58 AM (9 years, 3 months ago) |
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thats what i use, 125ml cake in a half pint jar halfway full a can make like 30 jars and still colonize very fast
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Edited by cArcace-x (03/22/15 09:53 AM)
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eatyualive
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Re: Slurry Spawn or Liquid Inoculant [Re: cArcace-x]
#21442350 - 03/22/15 09:24 AM (9 years, 3 months ago) |
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nice guys! i like the taller regular mouth 1/2 pint jars for slurries because i can flip it upside down in one motion when im doing the clean work. it fits perfectly on the regular mouth quart jar. ill remove the verm barrier, flip and drop. then put the blender lid back on the quart jar. this is all one quick motion and i don't even need to cut the pf cake at all. shown below i can't take a picture while im doing it.

by the way, regular mouth or wide mouth 1/2 pint jars work perfectly. they work exactly the same and you can have 100% success using both if you simply inoculate your syringe to the side edge of the glass and drip the solution or inoculant down the sides of the jars and colonize them from bottom up.
colonizing tall 1/2 pin pf jars from bottom up.
INOCULATION TIP FOR TALL REGULAR MOUTH 1/2 PINTS: Once your needle is in the jar point it towards the edge of the glass and trickle down inoculum to the bottom of the jars. This way you colonize the jars from the bottom up. You can observe this below.No stalling, no moisture buildup no problems. Simple solution. Sequence of stem clone growth in pf jars and grain masters. the jar on the far left in the pf jar pictures was injected with 1-10 cc syringe in the jar. it colonized in 4 days
     
THERE ARE NO SFD'S ON THESE PF JAR LIDS.
Edited by eatyualive (03/22/15 09:25 AM)
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Re: Slurry Spawn or Liquid Inoculant [Re: eatyualive]
#21442418 - 03/22/15 09:53 AM (9 years, 3 months ago) |
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i meant 1/4 pint cake to a pint halfway full of water to make 30 jars
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eatyualive
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Re: Slurry Spawn or Liquid Inoculant [Re: cArcace-x]
#21442480 - 03/22/15 10:13 AM (9 years, 3 months ago) |
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cArcace-x said: thats what i use, 125ml cake in a half pint jar halfway full a can make like 30 jars and still colonize very fast
what kind of grain have you been using carc?
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Re: Slurry Spawn or Liquid Inoculant [Re: eatyualive]
#21442482 - 03/22/15 10:13 AM (9 years, 3 months ago) |
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eatyualive said: nice guys! i like the taller regular mouth 1/2 pint jars for slurries because i can flip it upside down in one motion when im doing the clean work. it fits perfectly on the regular mouth quart jar. ill remove the verm barrier, flip and drop. then put the blender lid back on the quart jar. this is all one quick motion and i don't even need to cut the pf cake at all. shown below i can't take a picture while im doing it.

by the way, regular mouth or wide mouth 1/2 pint jars work perfectly. they work exactly the same and you can have 100% success using both if you simply inoculate your syringe to the side edge of the glass and drip the solution or inoculant down the sides of the jars and colonize them from bottom up.
colonizing tall 1/2 pin pf jars from bottom up.
INOCULATION TIP FOR TALL REGULAR MOUTH 1/2 PINTS: Once your needle is in the jar point it towards the edge of the glass and trickle down inoculum to the bottom of the jars. This way you colonize the jars from the bottom up. You can observe this below.No stalling, no moisture buildup no problems. Simple solution. Sequence of stem clone growth in pf jars and grain masters. the jar on the far left in the pf jar pictures was injected with 1-10 cc syringe in the jar. it colonized in 4 days
     
THERE ARE NO SFD'S ON THESE PF JAR LIDS.
Looks good bro. Do you ever sleep.? How do you find the time to write all this and take pics. Lol
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Re: Slurry Spawn or Liquid Inoculant [Re: eatyualive]
#21442733 - 03/22/15 11:28 AM (9 years, 3 months ago) |
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eatyualive said:
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cArcace-x said: thats what i use, 125ml cake in a half pint jar halfway full a can make like 30 jars and still colonize very fast
what kind of grain have you been using carc?
WBS for cubes
Edited by cArcace-x (03/22/15 03:55 PM)
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