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eatyualive
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Re: Slurry Spawn or Liquid Inoculant [Re: stareatclouds]
#20902571 - 11/28/14 10:15 PM (9 years, 6 months ago) |
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stareatclouds said: I'm pretty sure it was:
- 1 Coir Brick
- 1 Quart Verm
- 1 Quart Worm Castings
- 1 Cup Gypsum
oh yeah i remember now we were talking about it. man i love worm castings. i haven't seen any in years lol..
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Re: Slurry Spawn or Liquid Inoculant [Re: eatyualive]
#20902586 - 11/28/14 10:18 PM (9 years, 6 months ago) |
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Sorry but I haven't read the tek in a while and I don't feel like going over it right now but I was wondering. When you inoculate a sub with slurry dose it have enough nutes for more than one flush?
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eatyualive
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Re: Slurry Spawn or Liquid Inoculant [Re: MudaFuka]
#20902592 - 11/28/14 10:19 PM (9 years, 6 months ago) |
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i had 2 and tossed it. it did not contam. but, at the time i was doing a 2 flush rotation. so i would toss all my tubs after 2 flushes. i think it could have done another flush after that. if you have the space try it out. im not sure how good of a flush the 3rd would be. if your using a clone with good genetics it might give you better results.
Edited by eatyualive (11/28/14 10:21 PM)
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Re: Slurry Spawn or Liquid Inoculant [Re: eatyualive]
#20902594 - 11/28/14 10:20 PM (9 years, 6 months ago) |
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Cool.
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stareatclouds
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Re: Slurry Spawn or Liquid Inoculant [Re: MudaFuka]
#20902619 - 11/28/14 10:26 PM (9 years, 6 months ago) |
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eatyualive said:
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stareatclouds said: I'm pretty sure it was:
- 1 Coir Brick
- 1 Quart Verm
- 1 Quart Worm Castings
- 1 Cup Gypsum
oh yeah i remember now we were talking about it. man i love worm castings. i haven't seen any in years lol..
Haha, yeah, I was like, "I just went through all this with him a bit ago" but didn't want to violate the PM rule or whatever.
Muda,
I don't have a demand or a need for a specific amount of yield or whatever. If you guys want me to test stuff after I get my first flush out, I'm down, just tell me what to do.
Since I have no use for tons of fruits, I'll gladly try and use my current tub for as many flushes as possible to see how it goes.
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Re: Slurry Spawn or Liquid Inoculant [Re: stareatclouds]
#20902628 - 11/28/14 10:31 PM (9 years, 6 months ago) |
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Yah man just let that bitch roll until the wheels fall off.
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eatyualive
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Re: Slurry Spawn or Liquid Inoculant [Re: stareatclouds]
#20902632 - 11/28/14 10:32 PM (9 years, 6 months ago) |
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is it multispore?
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eatyualive
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Re: Slurry Spawn or Liquid Inoculant [Re: eatyualive]
#20902645 - 11/28/14 10:35 PM (9 years, 6 months ago) |
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my first trial had horrible fae and still fruited and gave a decent yield. im going to run more tests early next year since i now have the time to do so.
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stareatclouds
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Re: Slurry Spawn or Liquid Inoculant [Re: eatyualive]
#20902653 - 11/28/14 10:37 PM (9 years, 6 months ago) |
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I'll be honest. I got so excited with my early agar work that I lost track of WTF I have and what stuff made what, but it's only between Mexi-Albino and B+, so I thought the fruits would be easy to tell. These BRF cakes were made from LI syringes that I took from a few wedged, although I'm not 100% sure if they were transferred first. I'm taking much better notes now that I have tons of shit going on.
If I didn't repeatedly transfer mycelium sectors on agar, it's still MS right?
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Re: Slurry Spawn or Liquid Inoculant [Re: stareatclouds]
#20902668 - 11/28/14 10:41 PM (9 years, 6 months ago) |
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I'm still shitty at labeling I have 12 jars that I thought were PE, PE6 and cambo but they are now obviously full of oyster mycelium. I always have a lot of different things going on and I lose track of it very quickly.
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eatyualive
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Re: Slurry Spawn or Liquid Inoculant [Re: MudaFuka]
#20902691 - 11/28/14 10:48 PM (9 years, 6 months ago) |
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yeah ive been better about labeling and taking notes lately. also when i take pictures i take pics of the labels so i know to properly organize the pictures. what really helps me is if i spawn lets say 3 tubs of tex ill label them tub 1, tub 2, tub 3. then when i take a pic of that label and the pictures follow it, i now thats the tub. it helps me organize a little better.
There are three things im interested in to find out so this slurry can be more specific.
Testing Interests:
1) I want to know the lowest volume of water to pf cake able to be blended fully in a blender. 2) I want to know if 2 pf cakes will increase the yield enough to equate to a solid flush on a clone using 5 quarts of grain spawn to a 66 quart tub. rough volume 10 quarts of substrate as an example. 3) determine what the best recipe of slurry volume to substrate volume is so that overly wet substrates are not causing people issues. So if it ends up being lets just say 2-1/2 pint pf cakes to 16oz of water per 10 quarts of substrate. I want to have a specific recipe that works everytime. I think my initial trial was quite a large volume of substrate compared to what im doing now and maybe lowering it can actually help this work a little better. i mostly do everything by eye and feel these days. but i want to determine a volume recipe of water for substrate, water for slurry and substrate volume.
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Re: Slurry Spawn or Liquid Inoculant [Re: MudaFuka]
#20903055 - 11/29/14 12:41 AM (9 years, 6 months ago) |
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Sounds good, eat. I'll keep good notes on my next 2 tubs which will help prove some of the things we're currently looking at. I'll update this later on and probably wind up with a bigger writeup in my journal or something. I'm pretty sure my subs will be less than 10 quarts though (unless you meant in comparison to a full, 10 quart 66er).
Edit: Water sterilized and sub ready to be pasteurized, but remembered my tubs didn't have the holes cut out yet. It's 5AM where I'm at so I'll wait til later in the morning to make the tubs, sub and slurry.
Just in case anyone else wants to split test with me, I'm doing 2 BRF cakes in 16oz water and 24oz water. So uh, do something else!
Edited by stareatclouds (11/29/14 06:20 AM)
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eatyualive
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Re: Slurry Spawn or Liquid Inoculant [Re: stareatclouds]
#20903677 - 11/29/14 08:48 AM (9 years, 6 months ago) |
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stareatclouds said: Sounds good, eat. I'll keep good notes on my next 2 tubs which will help prove some of the things we're currently looking at. I'll update this later on and probably wind up with a bigger writeup in my journal or something. I'm pretty sure my subs will be less than 10 quarts though (unless you meant in comparison to a full, 10 quart 66er).
Edit: Water sterilized and sub ready to be pasteurized, but remembered my tubs didn't have the holes cut out yet. It's 5AM where I'm at so I'll wait til later in the morning to make the tubs, sub and slurry.
Just in case anyone else wants to split test with me, I'm doing 2 BRF cakes in 16oz water and 24oz water. So uh, do something else! 
thats ok. even if its a lower substrate volume. i was just giving an example. what i want to compare is a standard 66 quart tub wtih 5 quarts of grain spawn to 10 quarts of substrate. i know the yield i get on average for that so i want to find out what it takes to get similar yield of slurry if its even achievable.
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Re: Slurry Spawn or Liquid Inoculant [Re: eatyualive]
#20904009 - 11/29/14 10:54 AM (9 years, 6 months ago) |
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Hey Eat I changed my set up so I'm only running one monotub at a time. I can send you another pic if you don't remember my set up but instead of having the long side facing me I have the side with the two holes facing out of the closet so it has more room to breathe.
Should I still get that small fan you suggested and where would I place it now? Facing the ceiling so the air would come down or facing the opposite wall so it ricochets into the top hole?
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eatyualive
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Re: Slurry Spawn or Liquid Inoculant [Re: taGyo]
#20904337 - 11/29/14 12:30 PM (9 years, 6 months ago) |
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if your getting proper fae without it and you see the typical top feathered holes with no condensation down to the substrate. then your probably getting good fae. it may not be necessary if this is the case. if your not, it might be necessary for the fan.
can you post a picture again? i know you showed me but i might have seen 8 setups since then lol..
ive seen people set it up top pointing against a back wall behind the tubs. don't point it directly at the tubs with loose polyfil in the top holes. it may dry out. also, it may take a little repositioning of the fan to get things dialed in for your particular setup. that will take some trial and error.
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Re: Slurry Spawn or Liquid Inoculant [Re: eatyualive]
#20904347 - 11/29/14 12:33 PM (9 years, 6 months ago) |
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Only 8? Probably closer to fifteen. Been seeing you advising people all week 
I'll post some pics when I get back but if not it's cool, if I have an FAE problem I'll find you
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Re: Slurry Spawn or Liquid Inoculant [Re: taGyo]
#20904603 - 11/29/14 01:51 PM (9 years, 6 months ago) |
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well the WBS tub went into fruiting today and the slurry tub is still sitting there not going a whole hell of a lot. We will see if the 2qt slurry does any better, i cased that one 2 days ago so crossing my fingers on that one.
off topic but i know muda is on this thread, i got a few nice tissue samples of cluster fruits from a BRF cake inoculated with your LI tek. Put them on agar yesterday and they are already showing signs of growth.
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Re: Slurry Spawn or Liquid Inoculant [Re: roadrage999]
#20904630 - 11/29/14 01:59 PM (9 years, 6 months ago) |
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Nice.
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Re: Slurry Spawn or Liquid Inoculant [Re: MudaFuka]
#20922923 - 12/03/14 02:22 PM (9 years, 6 months ago) |
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Alright guys the results are in on my experiment.
Don't slurry using fully colonized WBS
3.5 days and it will look nice and green.
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Re: Slurry Spawn or Liquid Inoculant [Re: chowster]
#20923000 - 12/03/14 02:41 PM (9 years, 6 months ago) |
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chowster said: Alright guys the results are in on my experiment.
Don't slurry using fully colonized WBS
3.5 days and it will look nice and green.

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