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azur
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Re: Slurry Spawn or Liquid Inoculant [Re: tombosley8]
#20824226 - 11/11/14 06:17 PM (9 years, 7 months ago) |
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I'm not going for anything pretty and yeah it got a little messy but so what. They get the job done and so what if i ruined a couple jars with the silicone. Two bucks ain't gonna hurt me. It gets the point across and shows it can be done. If you think you can do it better then so be it. how bout you upload some better pics of your widemouth blender attachment before you say mine are so bad. If it ain't broke don't fix it. I'm not a master silicon craftsman as you may be so i'm sure you could do better. What matters to me is it works and has stood up to the pc cycle and use a few times now. 
I like you tom. Not talking shit to you. Just saying, if something is worth doing, it's worth doing right. And fuck your 2 dollars. Don't waste all of our resources. We all live downstream
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PsillyDoctor
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Re: Slurry Spawn or Liquid Inoculant [Re: azur]
#20824440 - 11/11/14 07:18 PM (9 years, 7 months ago) |
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lmao
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blackdust


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Re: Slurry Spawn or Liquid Inoculant [Re: azur]
#20859700 - 11/19/14 10:43 AM (9 years, 7 months ago) |
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Just to prove how badass slurry is:
Here is a bag of UNTERILIZED WBS made with a SLURRY of a PF cake that was only 70% colonized. I also did not sterilze the blender for making the slurry. Full details can be found here: http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/20819265



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stareatclouds
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Re: Slurry Spawn or Liquid Inoculant [Re: blackdust]
#20860121 - 11/19/14 12:33 PM (9 years, 7 months ago) |
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Awesome, Tom. I was wondering how sterile stuff even needs to be for this since it colonizes so fast. I felt like it could outperform any bac.
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roadrage999
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Re: Slurry Spawn or Liquid Inoculant [Re: stareatclouds]
#20867152 - 11/20/14 06:41 PM (9 years, 7 months ago) |
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Ive got 2 monos going right now. One WBS and one slurry from 4 x.5 pints. I can say that they were both about the same as far as the speed in which they needed to be cased, but the slurry was much more uniform over the entire substrate and not as spotty. Same strain/Same LI method from Muda was used for my little experiment. I am curious once they get into fruiting how the yields will be in comparison. If they are pretty much equal, then 4 half pints of a BRF cake is way more efficient than 4 quarts of WBS in terms of time and resources.
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eatyualive
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Re: Slurry Spawn or Liquid Inoculant [Re: roadrage999]
#20867184 - 11/20/14 06:47 PM (9 years, 7 months ago) |
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yeah thats what i want to find out. i had decent yield on that experiment but i really want to find out if it takes let say 2 pf cakes to get equivalent yield.
so are you comparing 4 quarts of spawn to 1 quart of pf cakes?
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MudaFuka
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Re: Slurry Spawn or Liquid Inoculant [Re: stareatclouds]
#20867212 - 11/20/14 06:52 PM (9 years, 7 months ago) |
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stareatclouds said: Awesome, Tom. I was wondering how sterile stuff even needs to be for this since it colonizes so fast. I felt like it could outperform any bac.
The fast colonisation makes sterility less important but that is no reason to cut corners. Proper sterile procedure is just good practice and cutting corners with it will eventually take a big wet bite out of your ass.
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eatyualive
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Re: Slurry Spawn or Liquid Inoculant [Re: MudaFuka]
#20867219 - 11/20/14 06:53 PM (9 years, 7 months ago) |
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MudaFuka said:
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stareatclouds said: Awesome, Tom. I was wondering how sterile stuff even needs to be for this since it colonizes so fast. I felt like it could outperform any bac.
The fast colonisation makes sterility less important but that is no reason to cut corners. Proper sterile procedure is just good practice and cutting corners with it will eventually take a big wet bite out of your ass.
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cronicr



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Re: Slurry Spawn or Liquid Inoculant [Re: eatyualive]
#20867225 - 11/20/14 06:54 PM (9 years, 7 months ago) |
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eatyualive said:
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MudaFuka said:
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stareatclouds said: Awesome, Tom. I was wondering how sterile stuff even needs to be for this since it colonizes so fast. I felt like it could outperform any bac.
The fast colonisation makes sterility less important but that is no reason to cut corners. Proper sterile procedure is just good practice and cutting corners with it will eventually take a big wet bite out of your ass.

 for the weeks it takes for the project as a whole there is no reason to try and shave a few hours of work off
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roadrage999
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Re: Slurry Spawn or Liquid Inoculant [Re: eatyualive]
#20867240 - 11/20/14 06:56 PM (9 years, 7 months ago) |
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Correct, 4 qts WBS vs 1 qt slurry from BRF cakes. I have a few more BRF cakes ready to slurry and put into a mono coming up, i have 2 qts total brf on that strain so i am going to put that into the test as well.
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eatyualive
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Re: Slurry Spawn or Liquid Inoculant [Re: roadrage999]
#20867266 - 11/20/14 07:00 PM (9 years, 7 months ago) |
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when my surgery heals and i can lift the pressure cooker again im going to try a few slurry tubs out to get some better ideas of yield with some clone cakes.
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blackdust


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Re: Slurry Spawn or Liquid Inoculant [Re: cronicr]
#20867653 - 11/20/14 08:08 PM (9 years, 7 months ago) |
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eat, have you had any contams with the slurry yet?? Has anybody?
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eatyualive
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Re: Slurry Spawn or Liquid Inoculant [Re: blackdust]
#20867827 - 11/20/14 08:45 PM (9 years, 7 months ago) |
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blackdust said: eat, have you had any contams with the slurry yet?? Has anybody?

in jars? ive had one round out of about 30 stall on me in jars. the culture i was using had bacteria prior to the slurry so it wasn't the slurry that caused it. but if it stalls out its more than likely bacteria. ive never had trich in the jars from doing it, but i also do it very cleanly. ive had one tub contam with green mold during the first flush. but ive had many successful tubs as well.
also take into consideration im prepping my grain using foomans tek. so there is no grain soaking involved.
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chowster
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Re: Slurry Spawn or Liquid Inoculant [Re: eatyualive]
#20868934 - 11/21/14 05:03 AM (9 years, 7 months ago) |
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Hi eat, did you choose that bulk substrate combo for a specific reason?
I was thinking of using a coir brick with a couple quarts of verm,and testing a WBS slurry (as in using a quart of WBS slurried rather than a BRF cake). With your expertise, could you make a preliminary judgment of whether the combo would be viable?
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eatyualive
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Re: Slurry Spawn or Liquid Inoculant [Re: chowster]
#20868964 - 11/21/14 05:30 AM (9 years, 7 months ago) |
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it was the substrate i was using at the time. im wary of using wbs because your exposing the inner uncolonized grain. i don't know if it would work. id like to see someone try though.
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MudaFuka
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Re: Slurry Spawn or Liquid Inoculant [Re: eatyualive]
#20868978 - 11/21/14 05:43 AM (9 years, 7 months ago) |
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It sounds like a bad idea to me. I think a beter option would be to grind WBS and make cakes with it if you want to make a WBS slurry. I'll still try it if no one else does though.
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blackdust


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Re: Slurry Spawn or Liquid Inoculant [Re: MudaFuka]
#20869261 - 11/21/14 07:53 AM (9 years, 7 months ago) |
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MudaFuka said: It sounds like a bad idea to me. I think a beter option would be to grind WBS and make cakes with it if you want to make a WBS slurry. I'll still try it if no one else does though.
my god, I would have slurried some of my unsterilized WBS bag if I knew this was somthing of interested. would have only took me 5 min since I don;t sterilize my shit
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taGyo
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Re: Slurry Spawn or Liquid Inoculant [Re: blackdust]
#20869265 - 11/21/14 07:54 AM (9 years, 7 months ago) |
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blackdust said: since I don;t sterilize my shit

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Oh man, I love this guy.
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blackdust


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Re: Slurry Spawn or Liquid Inoculant [Re: taGyo]
#20869277 - 11/21/14 07:57 AM (9 years, 7 months ago) |
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taGyo said:
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blackdust said: since I don;t sterilize my shit

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Oh man, I love this guy.
Project: Fac periclitatur is already working. Will post result after first flush but I might wait till after the third flush since it takes 3 flushes for a tub to be considered successful.
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taGyo
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Re: Slurry Spawn or Liquid Inoculant [Re: blackdust]
#20869285 - 11/21/14 08:01 AM (9 years, 7 months ago) |
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Is FAC the 70 percent slurried cake into un-sterilized WBS?
-------------------- Gyo's Better Grows TNF Q&A AMU Q&A Dominus fortunae meae sum
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