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=[ Uneven pinset then?
    #10630881 - 07/06/09 03:17 PM (14 years, 7 months ago)

There are a few pins in my monotub that are kinda big already. Not shroom big but about 1.5 inches in height.


I guess all I can do now is just pick while they mature then? There isn't going to be a sexy tub full of mushies grown to the top? =[

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Re: =[ Uneven pinset then? [Re: OutThisLife]
    #10630892 - 07/06/09 03:20 PM (14 years, 7 months ago)

well to my understanding if you get some early fruiters like that.  you can pick them and delay the fruiting so you get a more even pinset, and also to even out the distribution of nutrients so you get more that are bigger.  Using MS will do this a lot as well, but its fixable.

correct me if i am wrong.  its been a minute since I did trays


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Re: =[ Uneven pinset then? [Re: OutThisLife]
    #10630894 - 07/06/09 03:20 PM (14 years, 7 months ago)

So you have a few that are ahead of the others?  Do you at least have pins all over the place as well?

What I use to do was let them all grow out.  The ones that are ahead of the rest, I cut the cap off once they open up to prevent it from dropping spores all over the place.

You normally only have these issues on the first flush anyhow.


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Re: =[ Uneven pinset then? [Re: OutThisLife]
    #10630899 - 07/06/09 03:20 PM (14 years, 7 months ago)

Most likely not, But you could get a better pins set later. Sounds like you need more FAE & light maybe.

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Re: =[ Uneven pinset then? [Re: Citric]
    #10630910 - 07/06/09 03:22 PM (14 years, 7 months ago)

Yeah you could cut the caps off like citric said.  What I do is when they are growing in a large clump and one needs to be pulled to avoid a spore mess.  I take a razor blade or something, clean it, and cut it off at the base.  Leaving the cap and stem together for the most part.

the cut off base usually bruises and turns blue to green but I have not had any contam issues doing this, and it allows for the rest to reach their potential


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Re: =[ Uneven pinset then? [Re: JSshroom]
    #10630913 - 07/06/09 03:24 PM (14 years, 7 months ago)

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Yeah you could cut the caps off like citric said.  What I do is when they are growing in a large clump and one needs to be pulled to avoid a spore mess.  I take a razor blade or something, clean it, and cut it off at the base.  Leaving the cap and stem together for the most part.

the cut off base usually bruises and turns blue to green but I have not had any contam issues doing this, and it allows for the rest to reach their potential




Yea, pretty much the same thing I said =)

Another reason I usually only cut just the cap, is because the early ones are the ones that I usually end up printing.  Hard to do that with a big ass stem attached =)


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Re: =[ Uneven pinset then? [Re: JSshroom]
    #10630914 - 07/06/09 03:24 PM (14 years, 7 months ago)

Nah what's happening is there's only a few pins. I have no other pins growing yet.

Just looked, there's 6 pins. There was 3 yesterday, but still.. It's going pretty slow. One of the pins looks like it's going to be a monster.

Edited by OutThisLife (07/06/09 03:44 PM)

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Re: =[ Uneven pinset then? [Re: OutThisLife]
    #10630980 - 07/06/09 03:47 PM (14 years, 7 months ago)

oh ok.  do you have a casing layer.  if so your layer is uneven or the moisture content is not even changing the growth of the network through it.  If you dont have a casing layer then the only experience with good results I have is with straw logs.  Every manure uncased I have done has been hit or miss, within a stable environment so I am not really sure what is all going on with that.

with a casing layer you can patch, what I do is use a clean gloved hand and push the casing layer around covering up the areas that are colonizing first which also thins out the areas that are going slower.  Then either creating the proper environment or using wax paper to get the most even micro-climate for pinning.

am I missing anything anybody?


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Re: =[ Uneven pinset then? [Re: JSshroom]
    #10631182 - 07/06/09 04:31 PM (14 years, 7 months ago)

No casing layer. Just coir/verm.

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Re: =[ Uneven pinset then? [Re: OutThisLife]
    #10631193 - 07/06/09 04:34 PM (14 years, 7 months ago)

I'm guessing the spawn was PF? that would explain the uneven pins set. Unless you break up the PF enough there will be high spots.

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Re: =[ Uneven pinset then? [Re: SRHooM]
    #10631226 - 07/06/09 04:43 PM (14 years, 7 months ago)

yeah post your process. spawn to manure or whatever and applicable conditions and you say its just a strictly coir verm tray without casing.  best thing you can do then is use wax paper i would think to even out the microclimate but i think its to late for that now.  pulling them would be your only option.  You will probably have a better 2nd flush if it doesnt dry out which would depend on environment


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Re: =[ Uneven pinset then? [Re: OutThisLife]
    #10631383 - 07/06/09 05:07 PM (14 years, 7 months ago)

Read my pinning strategy it will explain in depth why this happened as well as how to prevent it in the future. GL


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Re: =[ Uneven pinset then? [Re: OutThisLife]
    #10631397 - 07/06/09 05:09 PM (14 years, 7 months ago)

I used rye grain and Cambodian spores from ralphsters. I let 6 quart jars colonize to 100% and put them in the coir/verm substrate, using one jar as a frosting layer. 16 days later I have 6 pins and a lot of white spikes and knots.

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Re: =[ Uneven pinset then? [Re: OutThisLife]
    #10632330 - 07/06/09 07:59 PM (14 years, 7 months ago)

Bumping < 24hrs ftw.

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Re: =[ Uneven pinset then? [Re: OutThisLife]
    #10634026 - 07/07/09 02:32 AM (14 years, 7 months ago)

well read hyphae pinning strategy and unless someone has a better Idea I would pull the grown shrooms if they are still tiny and delay fruiting if you have lots of knots sticking up.  white stuff, turns to knots, turns to pins, turns to goodies and were all fucked up


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Re: =[ Uneven pinset then? [Re: JSshroom]
    #10639659 - 07/08/09 12:23 AM (14 years, 7 months ago)

Well.. Today there's a bunch of little pins and a few huge ones.

Looks like it's going well. Haha the biggest one actually grew more while I was watching a movie.

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Re: =[ Uneven pinset then? [Re: OutThisLife]
    #10640307 - 07/08/09 05:53 AM (14 years, 7 months ago)

yeah, an uneven pinset sucks ass, but it could be worse, it could be contams, or no pins at all. :wink:


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Re: =[ Uneven pinset then? [Re: fungusfeller]
    #10640319 - 07/08/09 05:58 AM (14 years, 7 months ago)

Quote:

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yeah, an uneven pinset sucks ass, but it could be worse, it could be contams, or no pins at all. :wink:



Ah the art of pinning! GT's fungusfeller?


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Re: =[ Uneven pinset then? [Re: hyphae]
    #10640344 - 07/08/09 06:13 AM (14 years, 7 months ago)

that's my Malabar tub, that's funny because golden teachers is the strain i wanted to do first but wasn't in the cards for me yet, but i will get to them sooner or later. :wink:


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