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OfflineThe shroomy 1
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Re: Casing [Re: T-Rex]
    #10612891 - 07/02/09 11:59 PM (15 years, 6 months ago)

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Yea but I get 6-7 ounces each tub w/o casing my monos. My substrate is always WBS spawned to
cow manure/coir/verm/coffe




Did you somehow miss the idea that EVERY CULTIVATOR has his/her preferences?  I have my technique tweaked to what makes me very very happy.  You obviously have your technique tweaked to what makes you very very happy.  I happen to like the "added security" of the casing layer because I'm away from them so much. 

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Shroomgreen89 said Yea but I get 6-7 ounces each tub w/o casing my monos. My substrate is always WBS spawned to
cow manure/coir/verm/coffe


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Re: Casing [Re: The shroomy 1]
    #10613013 - 07/03/09 12:19 AM (15 years, 6 months ago)

No at all brotha I'm just stating that I never really noticed a diffrence in yield when using a casing layer on monos..
But to each his own.
No bad vibes coming from here.
And no no I wasn't comparing sizes but hey im always down for a STIFF competion. :dancer:

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Re: Casing [Re: T-Rex]
    #10613096 - 07/03/09 12:37 AM (15 years, 6 months ago)

i use a bowls in a mini greenhouse that is keep at 95 to 99% humidity, and i always case. my greenhouse holds 24 bowls, and on a few occasions i simply ran out of casing mix, before i ran out of bowls, and had to go caseless. i always get a much lower yield, and slower pinset.

  i use the 50/50+ mix that everyone uses, and i understand the concept of the micro evvironment, but i still wounder if i could get the same results with just coco coir, and verm.


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Re: Casing [Re: trentallica]
    #10614395 - 07/03/09 07:10 AM (15 years, 6 months ago)

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i use a bowls in a mini greenhouse that is keep at 95 to 99% humidity, and i always case. my greenhouse holds 24 bowls, and on a few occasions i simply ran out of casing mix, before i ran out of bowls, and had to go caseless. i always get a much lower yield, and slower pinset.

  i use the 50/50+ mix that everyone uses, and i understand the concept of the micro evvironment, but i still wounder if i could get the same results with just coco coir, and verm.



Coco is nutritious you don't want that as a casing although that would be a step up from no casing at all nutrition plus added moisture retention I see benefits!


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Re: Casing [Re: T-Rex]
    #10618090 - 07/03/09 09:39 PM (15 years, 6 months ago)

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No at all brotha I'm just stating that I never really noticed a diffrence in yield when using a casing layer on monos..
But to each his own.
No bad vibes coming from here.
And no no I wasn't comparing sizes but hey im always down for a STIFF competion. :dancer:





Oh God, I'm sorry if I came off like that.  No, I didn't think you were passing on bad vibes.  As a matter of fact, I have 2 tubs that were cased about 3 days ago and I have 2 tubs that I would normally be casing next week.  I'm going to let those two tubs go uncased and I'll pay a bit more attention to those just in case.  We'll see how they perform. :super:  :peace::mushroom2:


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Re: Casing [Re: The shroomy 1]
    #10629837 - 07/06/09 12:18 PM (15 years, 6 months ago)

i have heard the argument that a so called true casing has no nutrition in it. i dont really understand the hang up some people (im not including you just pointing it out)have about coco. its what best for the fruit that should matter. not the vocabulary. in defense to the coco i have cased over 1,000 bowls this way and i have had almost no contamination issues what so ever, and the ones i did have were from when i was still learning what to do. i have been doing a lot of time thinking about just using coco, and verm as a casing. that would cut out any need for concern about ph. no peat moss, no oyster flower, and no lime. ill still use water though. the purpois of the casing layer are being met. i have created a nice little micro environment for pinning.


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Re: Casing [Re: trentallica]
    #10630127 - 07/06/09 01:05 PM (15 years, 6 months ago)

not knockin what works for u BUT when your casing has nutrients in it it just takes longer for your sub to colonize, cuz it colonizes the casing also.  thats why we try not to have anything for the myc to feed on and dont case until the sub is fully colonized.  then its just a matter of a couple days and mushies are popping out the casing.

not to mention when there's nutes in the casing it allows for contams to feed if they are present. 

otherwise its doubles as a barrier for contams b4 it gets to the myc.

but if it works dont fix it.  just some FYI.:getstoned:


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