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Re: 4 quarts of spawn to coir/verm/coffee [Re: antimatt3r]
    #10663016 - 07/12/09 12:59 PM (15 years, 6 months ago)

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maybe leaving the polyfill in there might compensate for this.... as of now you cant even see in the fc due to the moisture on the sides of the bin :wink:




The problem is that CO2 buildup is beneficial during mycelial colonization. With polyfil in there, you are losing some of that CO2 due to fresh air being exchanged. So as it very well may work out fine, it isn't optimal and will colonize slower than if the holes were plugged.


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Re: 4 quarts of spawn to coir/verm/coffee [Re: Lucid_Euphoria]
    #10663763 - 07/12/09 03:31 PM (15 years, 6 months ago)

If CO2 buildup is beneficial during mycelial colonization then why dont my jars ever colonize if I completley tape up all the holes?


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Re: 4 quarts of spawn to coir/verm/coffee [Re: antimatt3r]
    #10663985 - 07/12/09 04:16 PM (15 years, 6 months ago)

They still need gas exchange.
You don't want them air tight


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Re: 4 quarts of spawn to coir/verm/coffee [Re: antimatt3r]
    #10665278 - 07/12/09 07:45 PM (15 years, 6 months ago)

okay I will plug all but one hole I think... when should I unplug and replace with polyfill?


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Re: 4 quarts of spawn to coir/verm/coffee [Re: antimatt3r]
    #10665762 - 07/12/09 08:59 PM (15 years, 6 months ago)

When it is ready to fruit- 7-10 days, probably.


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Re: 4 quarts of spawn to coir/verm/coffee [Re: antimatt3r]
    #10668589 - 07/13/09 11:32 AM (15 years, 6 months ago)

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antimatt3r said:
okay I will plug all but one hole I think... when should I unplug and replace with polyfill?




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If CO2 buildup is beneficial during mycelial colonization then why dont my jars ever colonize if I completley tape up all the holes?





the amount of air trapped in a jar is alot less than in a tub thats been sealed for gas exchange.  I wrap my monos in plastic wrap untill fully colonized then when done unwrap and stuff holes with polyfill.  makes for a nice pin set.


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Re: 4 quarts of spawn to coir/verm/coffee [Re: Doc_T]
    #10676458 - 07/14/09 04:57 PM (15 years, 6 months ago)

mycelium breaking surface :-D


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Re: 4 quarts of spawn to coir/verm/coffee [Re: antimatt3r]
    #10686615 - 07/16/09 05:52 AM (15 years, 6 months ago)

mycelium is 60% or more covering the surface, should I induce fruiting conditions once the sueface is 100% or maybe even a few days after that?


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Re: 4 quarts of spawn to coir/verm/coffee [Re: antimatt3r]
    #10686638 - 07/16/09 06:09 AM (15 years, 6 months ago)

I fruit CCV a little early- 80/90% colonized.


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Re: 4 quarts of spawn to coir/verm/coffee [Re: Doc_T]
    #10688058 - 07/16/09 01:12 PM (15 years, 6 months ago)

it depends on how much patience you have, I wait a day or 2 after %100.

IME it makes for a more dense pin set.


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Re: 4 quarts of spawn to coir/verm/coffee [Re: 13shrooms]
    #10689071 - 07/16/09 04:43 PM (15 years, 6 months ago)

heres what it look like today




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Re: 4 quarts of spawn to coir/verm/coffee [Re: antimatt3r]
    #10693271 - 07/17/09 10:11 AM (15 years, 6 months ago)

All I need to do at this point to induce fruiting is replace the covered holes with polyfill for more fae right?


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Re: 4 quarts of spawn to coir/verm/coffee [Re: antimatt3r]
    #10693604 - 07/17/09 11:32 AM (15 years, 6 months ago)

are you taking the lid off to take pics???:eek:

if you are its already getting FAE and wont fully colonize anyway.  FAE is a major pinning trigger once the sub is fully colonized but if its not colonized fully it will give you random pins and 1 long flush do to pinning triggers being introduced at wrong times.

but yeah (I personaly would wait till its all covered) just untape and fill with poly.


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Re: 4 quarts of spawn to coir/verm/coffee [Re: 13shrooms]
    #10693658 - 07/17/09 11:41 AM (15 years, 6 months ago)

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13shrooms said:
are you taking the lid off? [it] wont fully colonize [if so]




That hasn't been my experience with coir. Maybe I'm lucky. :shrug:


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Re: 4 quarts of spawn to coir/verm/coffee [Re: Doc_T]
    #10693752 - 07/17/09 12:02 PM (15 years, 6 months ago)

its bout 95%+ today

there are some very small water droplets on the surface throughout

it looks beautiful!!!!!!

I dont wanna take the lid off again for a pic but at the same time I want a pic!


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Re: 4 quarts of spawn to coir/verm/coffee [Re: antimatt3r]
    #10696401 - 07/17/09 08:03 PM (15 years, 6 months ago)

Is that a casing layer or a substrate?

If it's a casing layer, then you should patch and induce fruiting.

If you aren't casing then you want to wait a bit more like they said.

Also, if you crumple a sheet of foil and place it down near the surface of the substrate, then you don't have to worry so much about opening it up and taking pics. The foil will create CO2 buildup which will keep the mycelium in vegetative growth.


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Re: 4 quarts of spawn to coir/verm/coffee [Re: Lucid_Euphoria]
    #10698346 - 07/18/09 07:36 AM (15 years, 6 months ago)

yeah but you cant take a picture thru foil :wink: its just about 100% today, I think I will wait one or two more days before unplugging the 3 plugged holes to ensure full colonization and strength throughout the sub! thanks again so much for all your input and I hope this thread is informational or helpful to someone!


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Re: 4 quarts of spawn to coir/verm/coffee [Re: Doc_T]
    #10703281 - 07/19/09 10:33 AM (15 years, 5 months ago)

100% colonization achieved, holes replaced with polyfill!






theres a lot of water droplets on the surface is this going to harm or disrupt anything?


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Re: 4 quarts of spawn to coir/verm/coffee [Re: antimatt3r]
    #10703357 - 07/19/09 10:55 AM (15 years, 5 months ago)

I have droplets like that all the time, no big deal. They'll evap in a day or so. Maybe less.


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Re: 4 quarts of spawn to coir/verm/coffee [Re: Doc_T]
    #10704454 - 07/19/09 03:02 PM (15 years, 5 months ago)

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