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Re: 4 quarts of spawn to coir/verm/coffee [Re: Doc_T]
    #10646376 - 07/09/09 09:10 AM (14 years, 8 months ago)

yeah I just called the restaraunt at the top of my street and she said they put their grounds directly in the garbage.... will I have lesser yields and performance without the coffee? I could just wait another day? thanks for all your help doc much appreciated!


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Re: 4 quarts of spawn to coir/verm/coffee [Re: antimatt3r]
    #10646385 - 07/09/09 09:12 AM (14 years, 8 months ago)

I always use a quart of spent Starbucks coffee grounds (they're free) and a quart of verm to a brick of coir. Sometimes I'll throw in a tablespoon of quick lime if the pH goes too low from certain batches of coffee grounds. 2 quarts of spawn usually takes about 2 weeks to get to the point where I like to case it (completely white). After casing in a tub, I give it a good blast of fresh air from a small box fan to lower the RH. After that, I just forget about the tub until I start seeing shadows of mushies growing inside.


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Re: 4 quarts of spawn to coir/verm/coffee [Re: HighHat]
    #10646399 - 07/09/09 09:17 AM (14 years, 8 months ago)

on my way to starbucks now to pick some up!!!!!


its on 2day  :thumbup:


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Re: 4 quarts of spawn to coir/verm/coffee [Re: antimatt3r]
    #10646645 - 07/09/09 10:31 AM (14 years, 8 months ago)

score!

its huge!

how can I keep used coffee grounds fresh?





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Re: 4 quarts of spawn to coir/verm/coffee [Re: antimatt3r]
    #10646746 - 07/09/09 10:57 AM (14 years, 8 months ago)

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how can I keep used coffee grounds fresh?




I can mine. All you need is a pressure cooker, and some jars and lids.


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Re: 4 quarts of spawn to coir/verm/coffee [Re: antimatt3r]
    #10646774 - 07/09/09 11:06 AM (14 years, 8 months ago)

i cant believe how big that coir got, i dont think im going to have enough room in this stock pot to mix in the verm and coffee, i may use a sterlite fruiting chamber container to mix it all up then put it back in the stock pot for pasteurization think thats a bad idea?







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Re: 4 quarts of spawn to coir/verm/coffee [Re: antimatt3r]
    #10646796 - 07/09/09 11:09 AM (14 years, 8 months ago)

not a bad idea just wipe down the container first


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Re: 4 quarts of spawn to coir/verm/coffee [Re: ArcanePerception]
    #10646810 - 07/09/09 11:12 AM (14 years, 8 months ago)

I put the coffee and verm into the water before the coir- and I still don't have room to mix it.
I've thought about dumping it out into my pressure cooker pot, but a big Sterilite would be better. :thumbup:


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Re: 4 quarts of spawn to coir/verm/coffee [Re: Doc_T]
    #10646871 - 07/09/09 11:23 AM (14 years, 8 months ago)

everything except one cup of gypsum is mixed together in the sterlite box, its only at 120 degrees now in the container, once i stir in the gypsum i bet itll drop another ten im wondering how im gonna get it all back into the stockpot for temp increase.....







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Re: 4 quarts of spawn to coir/verm/coffee [Re: antimatt3r]
    #10646898 - 07/09/09 11:29 AM (14 years, 8 months ago)

should I resist the temptation to add more water? field capacity is when just a very very light stream of water will come out when squeezed right?


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Re: 4 quarts of spawn to coir/verm/coffee [Re: antimatt3r]
    #10646939 - 07/09/09 11:37 AM (14 years, 8 months ago)

dude, the coir prep in my sig has step by step pics and all, if the link doesnt work search Large_dose pastuerize coir prep. 

I bought a large pot to mix all my sub in and pasteurize it all together.  meijers or target or wally world has em 4 $10.

I get like 8 bags of spent starbucks @ a time and put them in my freezer as soon as I get home and thaw a day or two ahead of time. when I need it put it in the fridge to thaw.  since its free dont save little amounts it will more than likely mold.

you can always add more hot water to pasteurize, the thing is you then have to bring it back to field capacity. which can get messy if your not carefull.

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Re: 4 quarts of spawn to coir/verm/coffee [Re: antimatt3r]
    #10646986 - 07/09/09 11:44 AM (14 years, 8 months ago)

resist too dry is much better than too wet. Maybe adjust next time.


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Re: 4 quarts of spawn to coir/verm/coffee [Re: ArcanePerception]
    #10647074 - 07/09/09 12:02 PM (14 years, 8 months ago)

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how can I keep used coffee grounds fresh?




I just put mine in gallon ziplock bags and store em in a plastic tub.

I have frozen in the past, but I'm starting to think it isn't necessary.


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Re: 4 quarts of spawn to coir/verm/coffee [Re: Lucid_Euphoria]
    #10647286 - 07/09/09 12:49 PM (14 years, 8 months ago)

all done just wait for it to cool!!!

when the sub is cool should i just throw it in the container with a garbage bag liner and simply stir in the spawn or layer it or what?





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Re: 4 quarts of spawn to coir/verm/coffee [Re: antimatt3r]
    #10647310 - 07/09/09 12:55 PM (14 years, 8 months ago)

RR says it's better to layer. It's certainly easier, whatever else might be true.


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Re: 4 quarts of spawn to coir/verm/coffee [Re: Doc_T]
    #10647408 - 07/09/09 01:18 PM (14 years, 8 months ago)

excellent! any suggestions for a layering method?


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Re: 4 quarts of spawn to coir/verm/coffee [Re: Doc_T]
    #10647410 - 07/09/09 01:18 PM (14 years, 8 months ago)

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RR says it's better to layer. It's certainly easier, whatever else might be true.




Can you quote him on that?

I'm pretty sure the opposite is true.

Mixing it in provides the highest amount of inoculation points which allows the mycelium to take over the substrate faster, preventing a contam from getting a hold.

Most importantly though is to reserve a bit of substrate to put on the very top as to keep any grains from being exposed.


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Re: 4 quarts of spawn to coir/verm/coffee [Re: Lucid_Euphoria]
    #10647580 - 07/09/09 01:44 PM (14 years, 8 months ago)

Here's one quote:
http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/10310429#10310429
I've read it a few times from him and others.


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Re: 4 quarts of spawn to coir/verm/coffee [Re: Doc_T]
    #10647710 - 07/09/09 02:06 PM (14 years, 8 months ago)

Interesting. I thought I've read him say the opposite before.

Commercial growers use a mixing technique also which leads me to believe it is the best way. I'm curious as to why RR believes layering is better.

I've always mixed mine.


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Re: 4 quarts of spawn to coir/verm/coffee [Re: Lucid_Euphoria]
    #10647950 - 07/09/09 02:53 PM (14 years, 8 months ago)

layering is better for straw and wood substrates when using coir just mixem and put a pure layer of sub on top to cover spawn.  exsposed spawn is a high risk for contams.

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