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Offlinedankcrop
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almost ready to birth
    #1062897 - 11/18/02 04:11 PM (14 years, 7 months ago)

4 of my jars are colonizing quite nicely. 3 of them are at about 50-60%, and the last one is at about 95%. I was wondering if it was really necessary to wait another week after surface colonization, because when i look at the bottoms of the jars it appears the mycellium is already taking over the middle section of the cakes.

Also ive heard of people flipping the jars and shining light on the jars when the're this close to birthing? what is the purpose of this?


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Re: almost ready to birth [Re: dankcrop]
    #1062908 - 11/18/02 04:13 PM (14 years, 7 months ago)

the extra week will allow the mycelium to become more established. The purpose of shining light the last few days is to initiate pinning and the purpose of flipping is for air exchange which may help the mycleium.


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Re: almost ready to birth [Re: thisone]
    #1062938 - 11/18/02 04:19 PM (14 years, 7 months ago)

thanks man...another Q.
7 of my jars havent showed any growth. its been 3 weeks and theres no mycelium or mold, can i innoculate the jars with some fresh spores?


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Re: almost ready to birth [Re: dankcrop]
    #1062988 - 11/18/02 04:31 PM (14 years, 7 months ago)

In reply to:

its been 3 weeks and theres no mycelium or mold, can i innoculate the jars with some fresh spores?




If you're going to reinnoculate then at least resterilize the substrate, but be careful not too cook all the water out of the substrate.


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Re: almost ready to birth [Re: cookdandbombd]
    #1063001 - 11/18/02 04:33 PM (14 years, 7 months ago)

you should probably just toss the substrate because chances are the ratio was off in these jars and thats why they didn't colonize. MAterials are cheap. IT would probably be worth your time to just start over.


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Re: almost ready to birth [Re: cookdandbombd]
    #1063011 - 11/18/02 04:34 PM (14 years, 7 months ago)

What temperature have you been keeping these jars at?


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Re: almost ready to birth [Re: dankcrop]
    #1063088 - 11/18/02 04:54 PM (14 years, 7 months ago)

I knew of an experiment done once where two jars were inoculated at the same time. Both colonized at the same rate. One was birthed at two weeks the other a three. They sat next to each other in the terrarium. They both fruited at the same time. I couldn't see any advantage to birthing early other than freeing the jars sooner if that was an issue. The longer the cake is exposed to the elements the more chance of molds getting a foothold on them, so I'd say its best to let it do it's time in the jar.


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Re: almost ready to birth [Re: moidirus]
    #1063181 - 11/18/02 05:25 PM (14 years, 7 months ago)

Give those jars a little more time. Sometimes it takes a while. But if you don't care about losing what may grow toss the substrate. Don't reuse it.


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Re: almost ready to birth [Re: lvleph]
    #1065310 - 11/19/02 06:42 AM (14 years, 7 months ago)

Temps are at 83F...I dont know what the problem is. Its not temp, humidity, or dry substrate. Maybe the syringe didnt have enough concentration of spores.


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Re: almost ready to birth [Re: dankcrop]
    #1065724 - 11/19/02 11:15 AM (14 years, 7 months ago)

Some strains colonize faster than others, so that can influence how soon you want to birth. I had two B+ cakes that had really slowed down, so I used 'em for a casing, and when I cut 'em up/crumbled I found that they weren't nearly as colonized throughout as I would have expected. I understand that the stretch run of the colonization process can take a while, so I'd say after looking fully colonized on the outside wait a good two weeks for a faster strain, and if you have the B+ like me, I'd give it three weeks, maybe more. Yeah, you're syringe might have been a little light, that's possible, but I'd think something else is more likely a factor that is being overlooked.


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Re: almost ready to birth [Re: TheHobbit]
    #1065749 - 11/19/02 11:29 AM (14 years, 7 months ago)

I can't possibly think of any other factors. Can anyone see what i've overlooked?
But thanks all for your help. I think i'll just make some new substrate and give it another go.


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