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Will a small closet allow for enough FAE?
    #10627263 - 07/05/09 10:15 PM (15 years, 6 months ago)

talking about a small closet that does not have much horizontal space at all but plenty of vertical room (8 foot ceiling) . would lack of horizontal space in the small closet cause a problem with fresh air exchange? granted were talking about a SG chamber with plenty of holes


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Re: Will a small closet allow for enough FAE? [Re: Nuggetpouch]
    #10627270 - 07/05/09 10:16 PM (15 years, 6 months ago)

You don't want a closet's still air.


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Re: Will a small closet allow for enough FAE? [Re: AlexP]
    #10627291 - 07/05/09 10:20 PM (15 years, 6 months ago)

Shit, but what about all those crazy stealth grows ive seen on here?


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Re: Will a small closet allow for enough FAE? [Re: Nuggetpouch]
    #10627434 - 07/05/09 10:57 PM (15 years, 6 months ago)

they have fans gettin air in and shit


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Re: Will a small closet allow for enough FAE? [Re: lacma50]
    #10627444 - 07/05/09 10:58 PM (15 years, 6 months ago)

so whats the worst thing that can happen if someone left a fruiting SG chamber inside a closet with relatively still air for a few days without being able to fan?

ofcourse with lots of holes in the chamber. maybe 50+ 1/2 inch holes.


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Re: Will a small closet allow for enough FAE? [Re: Nuggetpouch]
    #10627474 - 07/05/09 11:05 PM (15 years, 6 months ago)

I mean the worst thing that could happen would be it kills the mushies..

But I don't recommend IME to have it in a room with a fan because it lowered the temp and humidity to about 64 degrees and 65 % RH.

IMO closets are all right, but FAE is a must with any setup!

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Re: Will a small closet allow for enough FAE? [Re: 1Ups]
    #10627508 - 07/05/09 11:11 PM (15 years, 6 months ago)

50+ Half inch holes seems to be SOOOOO MUCH!  Those holes are way to large.  Still air is.... Still air no matter how many holes you have.  The only thing that I can become of that set up is loss of humidity and still no Fresh air.  1Ups has the answer.  MIST!! FAN!! MIST!! FAN.  You can grow in the closet, but you have to monitor the Humidity and definitely fan at least 3 times a day.  I recommend searching for a Monotub tek and just give it a little love .


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Re: Will a small closet allow for enough FAE? [Re: The shroomy 1]
    #10627537 - 07/05/09 11:17 PM (15 years, 6 months ago)

How many holes would you recommend? and at what size? i want to be on the safe side for FAE because I will not be able to fan for two days at a time once a week.


also, is a monotub set up possible using straight verm? i don't have the means to buy the necesarry supplies for 50/50+ or any bulk. fucking economy

oh and im using perlite at the bottom of my chamber for humidity. granted i don't make too many holes i dont see why i would need a hygrometer to monitor humidity. some perlite should be making it rain in there :smile:


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Re: Will a small closet allow for enough FAE? [Re: Nuggetpouch]
    #10627589 - 07/05/09 11:26 PM (15 years, 6 months ago)

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How many holes would you recommend? and at what size? i want to be on the safe side for FAE because I will not be able to fan for two days at a time once a week.


also, is a monotub set up possible using straight verm? i don't have enough $$ to buy the necesarry supplies for 50/50+ or any bulk. fucking economy

oh and im using perlite at the bottom of my chamber for humidity. granted i don't make too many holes i dont see why i would need a hygrometer to monitor humidity. some perlite should be making it rain in there :smile:




Search for RR's Shotgun tek.  I believe he uses 1/8 inch holes.  Why you would need a Hygrometer?  Because it can help give you PHYSICAL proof of what's going on in your FC (scientific measurement).  You can't judge humidity by condensation on the sides of the tub that would make it seem like it's raining in there.  Fresh air exchange and humidity are VERY important pinning triggers.  If you want mushrooms.... You need to pay every bit of attention to those two critical aspects of your grow.


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Re: Will a small closet allow for enough FAE? [Re: Nuggetpouch]
    #10627591 - 07/05/09 11:27 PM (15 years, 6 months ago)

Can you leave a monotub by open windows?? From what I understand fully colonized substrate is very resistent to contams so....

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Re: Will a small closet allow for enough FAE? [Re: G1assjaw]
    #10627630 - 07/05/09 11:33 PM (15 years, 6 months ago)

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Can you leave a monotub by open windows?? From what I understand fully colonized substrate is very resistent to contams so....


  Never gave it a thought.  My Personal reasoning for not doing that is completely influenced by my location and the time of the season.  If I left my monotub next to an open window, I would assume that the blazing summer sun would get to it.  In my area, the temps outside are around 104°.  I'd be thinking that the tub would trap that heat energy and raise the inside temps to critical levels.  Loss of humidity and moisture from the substrate would follow.  All in all... Bad Idea in my area.  I'd prefer to be in TOTAL control of the growth parameters of my cubies.


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Re: Will a small closet allow for enough FAE? [Re: Nuggetpouch]
    #10627657 - 07/05/09 11:39 PM (15 years, 6 months ago)

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How many holes would you recommend? and at what size? i want to be on the safe side for FAE because I will not be able to fan for two days at a time once a week.




I would recommend about 15 or so holes on each side including top and bottom. Don't worry about Perlite falling out because the holes should be 1/4' big. Evenly spaced apart along the container. Also for this FC tek to work sufficiently you need to elevate your chamber at least 2 or so inches off a table that's already two feet off the floor. *FYI* 90% of contaminants are within 2 feet of the floor.

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Also, is a monotub set up possible using straight verm? i don't have enough $$ to buy the necesarry supplies for 50/50+ or any bulk. fucking economy.




I'm assuming you mean your casing layer because it would be absurd to line the bottom with verm. It's possible but atleast do the 50/50 tek cuz a bag of peat moss is only $7 or so. Search the forums for a lot of your questions.. You'd be surprised how many times other newcomers have asked them!

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oh and im using perlite at the bottom of my chamber for humidity. granted i don't make too many holes i dont see why i would need a hygrometer to monitor humidity. some perlite should be making it rain in there




Yes you are using perlite to help to evaporate the moisture that's in the FC. And yes you do want a humidity monitor because your face/hands can't know what 90-95% rH is :frown:

As to your many of shotgun questions I refer you to this video made by RR

http://www.mushroomvideos.com/Terrarium-Tek

Take up all the knowledge that's already out there.. then when you are confused then you come ask questions we'll be happy to help.. but first search!


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Re: Will a small closet allow for enough FAE? [Re: 1Ups]
    #10627676 - 07/05/09 11:44 PM (15 years, 6 months ago)

I'm sure he meant using straight verm as a bulk substrate.  I'M ASSUMING NOW  that he's doing cakes.


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Re: Will a small closet allow for enough FAE? [Re: The shroomy 1]
    #10627693 - 07/05/09 11:47 PM (15 years, 6 months ago)

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Can you leave a monotub by open windows?? From what I understand fully colonized substrate is very resistent to contams so....


  Never gave it a thought.  My Personal reasoning for not doing that is completely influenced by my location and the time of the season.  If I left my monotub next to an open window, I would assume that the blazing summer sun would get to it.  In my area, the temps outside are around 104�.  I'd be thinking that the tub would trap that heat energy and raise the inside temps to critical levels.  Loss of humidity and moisture from the substrate would follow.  All in all... Bad Idea in my area.  I'd prefer to be in TOTAL control of the growth parameters of my cubies.




Yeah I hear ya. It gets hot here as well in the summer. I was just wondering about the air itself. I would want to keep my chamber in anything higher than 85 degrees. looks like its going to stay in the eighties here for a while so I was considering it.

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Re: Will a small closet allow for enough FAE? [Re: G1assjaw]
    #10627736 - 07/05/09 11:55 PM (15 years, 6 months ago)

I lke to keep my tubs in the 70's.  The colonizing mycelium will produce heat on it's own.  I wouldn't be comfortable keeping my tubs in the mid 80's and chancing the colonizing mycelium raising the interior temps into the 90's


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Re: Will a small closet allow for enough FAE? [Re: The shroomy 1]
    #10627764 - 07/06/09 12:00 AM (15 years, 6 months ago)

Maybe this has been a problem for me in the past then. I seem to only cultivate in the summer in witch i do not have an air conditioner except for in my room witch is clearly to cold. Any suggestions?? It get pretty damn hot in my apartment :frown:

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Re: Will a small closet allow for enough FAE? [Re: G1assjaw]
    #10627822 - 07/06/09 12:12 AM (15 years, 6 months ago)

If YOU'RE comfortable in your room.... Your tubs will be too!  Don't worry about your room being too cold.  I don't think your room gets below 65°... or does it?


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Re: Will a small closet allow for enough FAE? [Re: The shroomy 1]
    #10628196 - 07/06/09 01:53 AM (15 years, 6 months ago)

Nope, I don't think so. Pretty much the tiddyiest (making up words here) room in my apartment. Ill guess ill put my tub in their.

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Re: Will a small closet allow for enough FAE? [Re: G1assjaw]
    #10628244 - 07/06/09 02:13 AM (15 years, 6 months ago)

Why can't you go in your own closet for two days every week? Something seems fishy :bored:


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