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Big mistake at the very end, will it be ok?
    #10619182 - 07/04/09 04:57 AM (15 years, 6 months ago)

Hi Guys!

I have been doing my first grow with a grow bag kit and its gone extremely well which is why i havent had to post anything here untill now!

I got to the final stage of putting into the humidity bag and have been waiting for things to start pinning! And indeed i can now see multiple mushrooms being born....Unfortuantely i forgot to put some foil around the bag and i can now see LOADS of pins forming around the bottom of the bag pushing against the sides.



(This is what it should look like but i put it in without the foil around it)



My question is this, i have now put foil around the bag and put it back into the humidity tent, will the mushrooms that were growing around the bottom now start to grow upwards or has this wrecked my whole grow? Also will this possibly effect the amont of flushes i get?

Thank You in advance



Jack

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Re: Big mistake at the very end, will it be ok? [Re: krazzed]
    #10619240 - 07/04/09 05:33 AM (15 years, 6 months ago)

should be okay, you could try to carefully cut the bag off and put it into a shotgun fc. good luck:wink:


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Re: Big mistake at the very end, will it be ok? [Re: fungusfeller]
    #10619907 - 07/04/09 09:34 AM (15 years, 6 months ago)

I dont think im confident enough to move it all now as i dont want to destroy it even more! I was just wondering if the pins that have started growing all around the bottom will now grow upwards or if they will just die?

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Re: Big mistake at the very end, will it be ok? [Re: krazzed]
    #10619967 - 07/04/09 09:51 AM (15 years, 6 months ago)

If the substrate has pulled away from the sides of the bag and there is room to grow up the probably will (I have had this happen when not lining my monotubs with plastic.) If the pins are pushed up tightly against the plastic they will probably abort and will rot eventually if not picked. This will also affect your first flush mostly because all the energy and resources the myc could be putting towards the shrooms that are growing on top is being wasted on the loads of pins that arent going to reach maturity. With the foil on there now you shouldn't see as much side pinning in your subsequent flushes. However they nutrients used to make those pins are already gone.


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Re: Big mistake at the very end, will it be ok? [Re: mushroommaan]
    #10619986 - 07/04/09 09:55 AM (15 years, 6 months ago)

:rolleyes:

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Re: Big mistake at the very end, will it be ok? [Re: krazzed]
    #10620012 - 07/04/09 10:01 AM (15 years, 6 months ago)

this is why fruiting in a bag is just lame.
there are many better ways to fruit mycellium.
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Re: Big mistake at the very end, will it be ok? [Re: prismism]
    #10620026 - 07/04/09 10:04 AM (15 years, 6 months ago)

lol.. BS
I've had amazing results from my coir/verm bags!
Kits are just lame...

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Re: Big mistake at the very end, will it be ok? [Re: BUDDHA_702]
    #10620063 - 07/04/09 10:12 AM (15 years, 6 months ago)

please show us your amazing results from fruiting within a bag.


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Re: Big mistake at the very end, will it be ok? [Re: prismism]
    #10620075 - 07/04/09 10:16 AM (15 years, 6 months ago)

:bitchplease: I need not prove shit to you.. you don't believe me then sucks for you, I couldn't care less.



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Re: Big mistake at the very end, will it be ok? [Re: BUDDHA_702]
    #10620108 - 07/04/09 10:24 AM (15 years, 6 months ago)

Foil will actually encourage side pinning by reflecting light down.  If it's fruiting, leave it alone and let it do it's thing.  You might try cutting a small slit in the top of the bag to allow a bit more fresh air to enter.
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Re: Big mistake at the very end, will it be ok? [Re: mushroommaan]
    #10620177 - 07/04/09 10:46 AM (15 years, 6 months ago)

The idea of it starting to rot really doesnt sound good. Could another soloution be to cut squares into the whole sides of the bag, allowing the pins to grow outwards on the sides?

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Re: Big mistake at the very end, will it be ok? [Re: krazzed]
    #10620471 - 07/04/09 11:44 AM (15 years, 6 months ago)

Quote:

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lol.. BS
I've had amazing results from my coir/verm bags!
Kits are just lame...




Quote:

please show us your amazing results from fruiting within a bag.




Quote:

I need not prove shit to you.. you don't believe me then sucks for you, I couldn't care less.







You don't need to prove anything to anyone but there's definitely space for you to improve on your language skills.

This is a community to share knowledge about growing mushrooms so if you have amazing results from fruiting in bags it would be nice to see photos so we can learn something from you. If there are no photos, there's no point. TC

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Re: Big mistake at the very end, will it be ok? [Re: AlexP]
    #10620530 - 07/04/09 11:54 AM (15 years, 6 months ago)

Please guys,

there is some conflicting advice here. I really need some kind of definate answer. This has been a long time in the making and i dont want to do the wrong thing now that might screw it up? Its either.. now leave the foil on and hope they grow upwards or something else.!

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Re: Big mistake at the very end, will it be ok? [Re: RogerRabbit]
    #10620550 - 07/04/09 11:57 AM (15 years, 6 months ago)

Quote:

RogerRabbit said:
Foil will actually encourage side pinning by reflecting light down.  If it's fruiting, leave it alone and let it do it's thing.  You might try cutting a small slit in the top of the bag to allow a bit more fresh air to enter.
RR




This man has the 'Trusted Cultivator' tag for a reason. listen to what he says.

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Re: Big mistake at the very end, will it be ok? [Re: breakfast]
    #10620574 - 07/04/09 12:01 PM (15 years, 6 months ago)

I want to follow his advice but all the pins that are growing at the bottom are very very tight, so i dont how they will grow with no room?
If i cut panels out of the side will this be bad?

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Re: Big mistake at the very end, will it be ok? [Re: krazzed]
    #10620575 - 07/04/09 12:01 PM (15 years, 6 months ago)

Quote:

RogerRabbit said:
Foil will actually encourage side pinning by reflecting light down.  If it's fruiting, leave it alone and let it do it's thing.  You might try cutting a small slit in the top of the bag to allow a bit more fresh air to enter.
RR




^a TC just hooked you up with some solid advice and you are squirming for more answers?

hes saying you dont need the foil..(maybe try duct tape next time.)and your bags could always use some good fresh air so go ahead and cut a hole in the bag.
and while your at it you can remove the mushrooms that you fear could be rotting.
does that help?


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Re: Big mistake at the very end, will it be ok? [Re: prismism]
    #10620591 - 07/04/09 12:05 PM (15 years, 6 months ago)

Quote:

prismism said:
Quote:

RogerRabbit said:
Foil will actually encourage side pinning by reflecting light down.  If it's fruiting, leave it alone and let it do it's thing.  You might try cutting a small slit in the top of the bag to allow a bit more fresh air to enter.
RR




^a TC just hooked you up with some solid advice and you are squirming for more answers?

hes saying you dont need the foil..(maybe try duct tape next time.)and your bags could always use some good fresh air so go ahead and cut a hole in the bag.
and while your at it you can remove the mushrooms that you fear could be rotting.
does that help?





Im really sorry if i am coming accross as a nag, that was not my intention.
Ok i am going to remove the foil and cut some panels out of the sides to allow the mushrooms to grow outwards. Hope this works!
Thanks for the help people!

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Re: Big mistake at the very end, will it be ok? [Re: krazzed]
    #10620610 - 07/04/09 12:09 PM (15 years, 6 months ago)

You don't want the mushrooms to grow outwards your holes. They are for FAE.


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"The joy of life consists in the exercise of one's energies, continual growth, constant change, the enjoyment of every new experience. To stop means simply to die. The eternal mistake of mankind is to set up an attainable ideal." Aleister Crowley

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Re: Big mistake at the very end, will it be ok? [Re: AlexP]
    #10620658 - 07/04/09 12:17 PM (15 years, 6 months ago)

Quote:

AlexP said:
You don't need to prove anything to anyone but there's definitely space for you to improve on your language skills.

This is a community to share knowledge about growing mushrooms so if you have amazing results from fruiting in bags it would be nice to see photos so we can learn something from you. If there are no photos, there's no point. TC

:peace:




I live in the USA I can talk how ever the FUCK I want ASSHOLE!
Can't handle it then GTFO.

So now I need photos to prove every thing I say?


Edited by BUDDHA_702 (07/04/09 12:20 PM)

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Re: Big mistake at the very end, will it be ok? [Re: AlexP]
    #10620670 - 07/04/09 12:20 PM (15 years, 6 months ago)

Quote:

AlexP said:
You don't want the mushrooms to grow outwards your holes. They are for FAE.





FAE?

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