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JewelessCaesar
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To directly mist or not?
#10613459 - 07/03/09 01:58 AM (15 years, 6 months ago) |
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That is the question!
Well I have been growing for a few years now and most the topics I have read say do not directly mist your cakes and casings. 
BUT... I have always directly sprayed my cakes through knotting to harvest and received great flushes even from WBS cakes which most people say will not hold enough moisture to push out a good flush.
So what I wanna know is what do you do?(post pics so we can see your the benefits of your technique)
I direct spray and fan for like 2-3 minutes religiously even though my FAE fans and coolmist run on a timer.
First pic is second flush and third pic is third flush.
    
I have had six flushes off of one WBS cake, 4-6 were small but flushes none the less.
This seems to contradict what a lot of people say..so how about you?
All pics are WBS cakes and directly misting.. do post and leave some feedback on your experiences please!
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Edited by JewelessCaesar (07/03/09 02:07 AM)
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magicshroomguy
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Nice pics. I also do the same and seem to get bigger shrooms when i mist my cakes/substrate pans through the whole growth cycle vs just to start the pins and stopping after That. The only time i've had problems from it is when they get too damp or get small pools of water on them, but that isn't very often because I am normally very careful not to over do it. I just got done pickin almost 2 oz's off 9 half pint pf cakes and I misted them several times a day all the way through till I picked them as I always do and now I got them cleaned, soaked and back in the fruiting chamber waiting on flush two.
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hyphae
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There's a right way and a wrong way to mist. The right way is misting from above letting the mist fall onto the myc/casing layer this keeps the integrity of the casing intact meaning casing layer structure and developing primordia. The wrong way to mist is directly at the myc/casing layer this can cause "panning" which flattens and seals up not to mention destroys the casing layers microclimate. It also can flatten "knocks down" the myc destroying delicate primordia. This is one area where one must have at least some finesse! BTW your pictures show an over abundance of co2 or lack of FAE you may want to address that.
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Re: To directly mist or not? [Re: hyphae]
#10614312 - 07/03/09 06:45 AM (15 years, 6 months ago) |
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cant directly misting cause your grow to stall if you mist too much directly on your bulk sub?
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Re: To directly mist or not? [Re: TacoHerder]
#10614344 - 07/03/09 06:53 AM (15 years, 6 months ago) |
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TacoHerder said: cant directly misting cause your grow to stall if you mist too much directly on your bulk sub?
It certainly can. They can come back after drying out a bit thought if primordia was well developed.
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Gas Exchange vs. FAE
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JewelessCaesar
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Re: To directly mist or not? [Re: hyphae]
#10614797 - 07/03/09 09:18 AM (15 years, 6 months ago) |
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hyphae said: There's a right way and a wrong way to mist. The right way is misting from above letting the mist fall onto the myc/casing layer this keeps the integrity of the casing intact meaning casing layer structure and developing primordia. The wrong way to mist is directly at the myc/casing layer this can cause "panning" which flattens and seals up not to mention destroys the casing layers micro climate. It also can flatten "knocks down" the myc destroying delicate primordia. This is one area where one must have at least some finesse! BTW your pictures show an over abundance of co2 or lack of FAE you may want to address that. 
Yeah all the pics except the first one are from my old setup which was stone age compared to my new one. And the lack of FAE on the first cake is just from stupidity on my part... it was the couple days that I was 'incinerating' the first flushes and lost total track of any type of schedule for misting and fanning..lol.. it happens, but will be addressed..
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JewelessCaesar
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magicshroomguy said: Nice pics. I also do the same and seem to get bigger shrooms when i mist my cakes/substrate pans through the whole growth cycle vs just to start the pins and stopping after That. The only time i've had problems from it is when they get too damp or get small pools of water on them, but that isn't very often because I am normally very careful not to over do it. I just got done pickin almost 2 oz's off 9 half pint pf cakes and I misted them several times a day all the way through till I picked them as I always do and now I got them cleaned, soaked and back in the fruiting chamber waiting on flush two.
You have any pictures? What tek do you use?... add anything you think might be important...
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magicshroomguy said:
Nice pics. I also do the same and seem to get bigger shrooms when i mist my cakes/substrate pans through the whole growth cycle vs just to start the pins and stopping after That. The only time i've had problems from it is when they get too damp or get small pools of water on them, but that isn't very often because I am normally very careful not to over do it. I just got done pickin almost 2 oz's off 9 half pint pf cakes and I misted them several times a day all the way through till I picked them as I always do and now I got them cleaned, soaked and back in the fruiting chamber waiting on flush two.
Hold up a minute, you talking 2oz wet, or 2oz dry? Big difference there.
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