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Questions from a virgin cultivator
    #1061124 - 11/18/02 12:23 AM (14 years, 4 months ago)

Ok i have 3 mexicana cakes ready to be birthed and im wondering if i can use a heating pad and some other things i have to fruit one of them for an experiment . I dont wanna do it with all three because of the risk factor of losing one of my precious babies due to lack of experience.If it is possible to do should i use a water/peroxcide mixture to mist the walls of my container or can i use just sterile water to mist the sides?? And i know this is long but thats why im here is to learn and take things in..but how often should i mist ?

Another thing is that would a florescent 12 inch fish tank light be better then lets say having a 80 watt bulb set far from the container and shining against the wal to reflect the light so its not a direct flow to the pins/shrooms??

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Re: Questions from a virgin cultivator [Re: Rabbitt]
    #1061173 - 11/18/02 12:44 AM (14 years, 4 months ago)

First off, unless you live in an igloo the heating pad is unnecessary. The ideal fruiting temp for P. cubensis is roughly 72 degrees. Hence the term "cold shocking", don't worry about wha that is. When fruiting right off the cakes you're going to want to keep the humidity as high as you can (above 90%) as the mycelium is very sensistive to dry air. Lighting is not a major issue here as only a very small ammount of light is required to trigger the production of the hormone which causes the initiation of fruiting. Also, sterile water is fine, there is no need to add anythign to it. Generally the distilled water you cna get from any of the marts for about 90 cents on the gallon will be great. Just make sure to fan well before misting, fresh air is somethign else that is needed to properly induce fruiting. Hope this helps ya out.


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Re: Questions from a virgin cultivator [Re: Rabbitt]
    #1061188 - 11/18/02 12:50 AM (14 years, 4 months ago)

shit dude, its easy to get rid of that virgin status, just go by the corner with a few dollars, sally will be glad to help

nah, umm, when you take the cakes out the jars, and their fruiting an shit, a heating pad will dry it out
also, you only need very little light, maybe 30 minutes a day, so the mushies know which direction to grow. theyre not like weed plants. if your incubation chamber is clear, and exposed to any outside light, you should be ok, if its not clear, when you mist, leave the lid off for about an hour to expose the cakes to light, and that should do the trick

about the peroxide, you should do a search, or let a more experienced person help you with that

but like you said, they are experiments, and experiments arent done with ordinary teks, or they would be called grows, so try different things if your mind takes you there


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Re: Questions from a virgin cultivator [Re: Teon]
    #1061190 - 11/18/02 12:51 AM (14 years, 4 months ago)

yeah it kinda did but im looking for if the heating pad well help with the humidity to raise it cause its not humid at all in my house nor my grow spot but it is kinda warm the temp is above the normal in my house i also can hook up a heater an electric one in the room to help raise and stabilize the temp if that will help any..and as far as misting them do i mist the cakes them selves or just the walls of the container and should i also put a air exchange holein my cont. and stuff it with lets say cotton or pillw stuffing so no contams get in ?? im very new and have been reading but figured its time to ask ?'s now ccause im getting excited about my little friends now


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Re: Questions from a virgin cultivator [Re: Rabbitt]
    #1061261 - 11/18/02 01:31 AM (14 years, 4 months ago)

Raising the temp will lower the humidity.


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Re: Questions from a virgin cultivator [Re: Skikid16]
    #1061298 - 11/18/02 01:47 AM (14 years, 4 months ago)

Ok heres another part to this thing if i put a heater in the room and spray the sides of the bin will that be good for humidity ?? And if use filtered tap water that is bioled thoroughly is trhat good enough instead of going out and buying spring water?


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Re: Questions from a virgin cultivator [Re: Skikid16]
    #1061485 - 11/18/02 03:19 AM (14 years, 4 months ago)

Warm air can hold more water then cold air can.


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Re: Questions from a virgin cultivator [Re: Skikid16]
    #1061495 - 11/18/02 03:25 AM (14 years, 4 months ago)

How does raising the temp lower the humidity?



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Re: Questions from a virgin cultivator [Re: Fred Garvin]
    #1061499 - 11/18/02 03:27 AM (14 years, 4 months ago)

it doesn't. he said warm air holds more water- meaning higher humidity.


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Re: Questions from a virgin cultivator [Re: MsPacMan]
    #1061505 - 11/18/02 03:29 AM (14 years, 4 months ago)

Ok thx for that bit of info but i noticed i have a pretty nice sized cooler would that be easier or better to fruit them in since it can seal and will not allow any light more then what i want in? And if so then what about humidity inside of the cooler?? how would i go about getting it right and stabilizing it there with a heater in the room eg: electric wire heater not a porcelein one


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Re: Questions from a virgin cultivator [Re: MsPacMan]
    #1061513 - 11/18/02 03:33 AM (14 years, 4 months ago)

I was responding to this quote from Sikkid

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Raising the temp will lower the humidity.






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Re: Questions from a virgin cultivator [Re: On_the_Down-Low]
    #1061564 - 11/18/02 03:55 AM (14 years, 4 months ago)

In reply to:

Warm air can hold more water then cold air can.




warm air can hold more water than cold air, but 100% humidity is 100% humidity, regardless of temp.

you reaffirmed my point. Think about it like this, in the summer time, on a real humid day, when is there fog out? In the morning, this is because it is cooler then, the dew point is closer to the temp. Thats why when hot, humid air rises in the summer, it cools as it rises until it reaches the dewpoint, when it can do one of two things, condense and form a cloud or heat up. So thats why I said that raising the temps will cause humidity to drop, because if you raise the temp, then the temp will rise above the dew point, thus the air will go from saturated to you got it unsaturated.

I mean I may have smoked myself stupid, but I was a meteorology major for my first year of college. But please, if someone can explain to me how raising the temp will increase humidity, please do.


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Re: Questions from a virgin cultivator [Re: Skikid16]
    #1061594 - 11/18/02 04:11 AM (14 years, 4 months ago)

well im glad you paid attention in college but i still have the same questions as before so can somebody please help me with them??


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Re: Questions from a virgin cultivator [Re: Skikid16]
    #1061600 - 11/18/02 04:13 AM (14 years, 4 months ago)

>But please, if someone can explain to me how raising the temp will increase humidity, please do.

You?re right, in an enlosed container, if you raise the temperature(and if the pressure stays the same) the relative humidity drops.

A good link on this:
http://www.ems.psu.edu/~fraser/BadMeteorology.html


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Re: Questions from a virgin cultivator [Re: Rabbitt]
    #1061612 - 11/18/02 04:17 AM (14 years, 4 months ago)

>If it is possible to do should i use a water/peroxcide mixture to mist the walls of my container or can i use just sterile water to mist the sides??
Normal, clean, potable water(or sterile water for that matter)

> .but how often should i mist ?
First, I?d use perlite or geolite at the bottom, this way you won?t have to mist at all, or perhaps once a day.

>would a florescent 12 inch fish tank light be better then lets say having a 80 watt
>bulb set far from the container
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Re: Questions from a virgin cultivator [Re: Anno]
    #1061669 - 11/18/02 04:49 AM (14 years, 4 months ago)

Ok thx for the info Anno but im tryna see if i could possibly do it with out perilite or anything in the bottom just to try it but i wanna see if that would be a good idea to even attempt in the first place or if anybody has tryed it and failed badly or has succeeded at it that way.
And the cooler question is that easier to use or better should i say then a rubbermaid bin ?? i also have just scrounged up and old fish tank air thingy that makes bubbles in the water will that be any good at not letting still standing water stagnate?? or dont put water in the bottom at all?? just some questions for the people out here to answer if they can or any other pointers they could give me on my little experiment would be helpful

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Re: Questions from a virgin cultivator [Re: Rabbitt]
    #1061765 - 11/18/02 06:26 AM (14 years, 4 months ago)

>And the cooler question is that easier to use or better should i say then a
>rubbermaid bin ??
Same

> i also have just scrounged up and old fish tank air thingy that makes bubbles in
>the water will that be any good at not letting still standing water stagnate?? or
>dont put water in the bottom at all??
If, then put the water in a jar inside the tank.

> just some questions for the people out here to answer if they can or any other
>pointers they could give me on my little experiment would be helpful
Read http://www.fanaticus.com/D.C.T.htm .


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Re: Questions from a virgin cultivator [Re: Anno]
    #1061777 - 11/18/02 07:02 AM (14 years, 4 months ago)

Ok but will the jar of water help with humidity???


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Re: Questions from a virgin cultivator [Re: Rabbitt]
    #1061784 - 11/18/02 07:29 AM (14 years, 4 months ago)

yes, and with air exchange.


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Re: Questions from a virgin cultivator [Re: Anno]
    #1061789 - 11/18/02 07:38 AM (14 years, 4 months ago)

Ok thats sounds good but do you think i could use the little hole that you use to empty water from a cooler as the air exchange and also run the tube for the bubbler thru it at the same time??? and if so just put some poly fill in around it??


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