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system32
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100% Pf-tek FC Whats this growth?
#10610163 - 07/02/09 02:23 PM (15 years, 6 months ago) |
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any ideas jedi's?
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Mykologist
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Re: 100% Pf-tek FC Whats this growth? [Re: system32]
#10610170 - 07/02/09 02:25 PM (15 years, 6 months ago) |
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That's not good... I see the beginnings of some trichoderma between whatever the weird spots are. You've got some mold, sorry hope you have other jars... Myk
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system32
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Re: 100% Pf-tek FC Whats this growth? [Re: Mykologist]
#10610185 - 07/02/09 02:28 PM (15 years, 6 months ago) |
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Ah cock, can I kill it? whats the cause? there are other cakes in there remove?
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Re: 100% Pf-tek FC Whats this growth? [Re: system32]
#10610253 - 07/02/09 02:45 PM (15 years, 6 months ago) |
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there are other cakes in there remove?
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Re: 100% Pf-tek FC Whats this growth? [Re: system32]
#10610258 - 07/02/09 02:45 PM (15 years, 6 months ago) |
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I'd at the least move that cake AWAY from the other cakes. It's hard to tell, but it looks like you may have some trich starting in the lower cluster of dots...but it could be bruising as well. It's too small and too early to tell. Regardless, the dots are NOT a good sign. It's definitely some kind of mold though.
All I can say for the cause: sterile technique...although contamination happens man. It's ok, just make sure you take extra care next time. It's rarer for cakes to contaminate after colonization, so may have been out of your power. For sure, plenty of FAE will combat contamination during fruiting. Perhaps it could have used some more fanning/misting. Good luck with the other cakes! Myk
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Re: 100% Pf-tek FC Whats this growth? [Re: Mykologist]
#10610270 - 07/02/09 02:48 PM (15 years, 6 months ago) |
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That cake in my hands would be already down the toilet. Just put it in a plastic bag and dump it. You have other cakes, don't risk them. Go for it again with the extra jars you have/find/buy. But dump it ASAP.
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"When one creates phantoms for oneself, one puts vampires into the world, and one must nourish these children of a voluntary nightmare with one's blood, one's life, one's intelligence, and one's reason, without ever satisfying them." Eliphas Levi
"The joy of life consists in the exercise of one's energies, continual growth, constant change, the enjoyment of every new experience. To stop means simply to die. The eternal mistake of mankind is to set up an attainable ideal." Aleister Crowley
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Re: 100% Pf-tek FC Whats this growth? [Re: AlexP]
#10610310 - 07/02/09 02:55 PM (15 years, 6 months ago) |
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Trich starts as green dots, doesn't it?
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system32
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Re: 100% Pf-tek FC Whats this growth? [Re: Project]
#10610432 - 07/02/09 03:21 PM (15 years, 6 months ago) |
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comprimise then gents, ill put it in its very own fc I have spare can't hurt, I mist and fan 4 times a day rh is 100%. Ah well.
here the other two cakes I moved to a fresh new fc.
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Re: 100% Pf-tek FC Whats this growth? [Re: system32]
#10610437 - 07/02/09 03:22 PM (15 years, 6 months ago) |
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Wow, the holes in your FC are so small I can't even seem them! What size drill bit did you use?
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Re: 100% Pf-tek FC Whats this growth? [Re: Lostkeys]
#10610475 - 07/02/09 03:29 PM (15 years, 6 months ago) |
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throw that thing away. if it did fruit (i remember hearing a contamed cake will never fruit anyways) would you still want anything to do with the fruits? and i've come to think my success with this hobby has come mainly from my brand new home with absolutely zero previous mold. i would be careful about introducing those bad spores to your hobby area, which happens to be your home. just my 2 cents im still a noob tho
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system32
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Re: 100% Pf-tek FC Whats this growth? [Re: Lostkeys]
#10610477 - 07/02/09 03:30 PM (15 years, 6 months ago) |
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Micro drill bit, made of win.
There going in right now.
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Re: 100% Pf-tek FC Whats this growth? [Re: system32]
#10610519 - 07/02/09 03:38 PM (15 years, 6 months ago) |
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comprimise then gents, ill put it in its very own fc I have spare can't hurt, I mist and fan 4 times a day rh is 100%. Ah well.
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"The joy of life consists in the exercise of one's energies, continual growth, constant change, the enjoyment of every new experience. To stop means simply to die. The eternal mistake of mankind is to set up an attainable ideal." Aleister Crowley
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Re: 100% Pf-tek FC Whats this growth? [Re: system32]
#10610547 - 07/02/09 03:44 PM (15 years, 6 months ago) |
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That does not look good at all. I would take advantage of the fact that it's going to be the 4th of July soon.. and.. 'get rid' of that cake.. lol. That pink spot at the top of your pic looks very unsettling as well. I wouldn't let that cake out of my sight if I were you.. I just don't trust it
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Re: 100% Pf-tek FC Whats this growth? [Re: Devii]
#10610698 - 07/02/09 04:18 PM (15 years, 6 months ago) |
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How can one positively tell if it is Trich. or not? Are there any good pix of contaminated grows on the board?
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Re: 100% Pf-tek FC Whats this growth? [Re: mycochef]
#10610789 - 07/02/09 04:37 PM (15 years, 6 months ago) |
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How can one positively tell if it is Trich. or not? Are there any good pix of contaminated grows on the board?
People work hard for a reason!

http://www.shroomery.org/5276/What-are-common-contaminants-of-the-mushroom-culture
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"When one creates phantoms for oneself, one puts vampires into the world, and one must nourish these children of a voluntary nightmare with one's blood, one's life, one's intelligence, and one's reason, without ever satisfying them." Eliphas Levi
"The joy of life consists in the exercise of one's energies, continual growth, constant change, the enjoyment of every new experience. To stop means simply to die. The eternal mistake of mankind is to set up an attainable ideal." Aleister Crowley
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Re: 100% Pf-tek FC Whats this growth? [Re: AlexP]
#10611019 - 07/02/09 05:15 PM (15 years, 6 months ago) |
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Uh thanx...now I feel like an idiot. Really nice treatise on mushroom contaminates.
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Re: 100% Pf-tek FC Whats this growth? [Re: system32]
#10611553 - 07/02/09 06:54 PM (15 years, 6 months ago) |
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Doesn't matter what type of mold it is it's contaminated more than likely due to your direct misting technique. Way over watere there bro you may better off with a splash shield in place. Learn how to mist it's the same for cakes as it is for any substrate cased or not. You'll be glad you did!!! GL
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Re: 100% Pf-tek FC Whats this growth? [Re: hyphae]
#10613190 - 07/03/09 01:00 AM (15 years, 6 months ago) |
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I was unsure of a correct misting tek, did cross my mind I might be too close.
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Re: 100% Pf-tek FC Whats this growth? [Re: system32]
#10613829 - 07/03/09 04:06 AM (15 years, 6 months ago) |
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Dude throw that cake out asap. Looks alot like pics of Aspergillus flavus which is a very toxic mold.
http://www.shroomery.org/images/23418/Aspergillus_flavus.jpg
http://www.shroomery.org/images/23418/aspergillus4.jpg
regardless it is some kinda mold and potentially dangerous to your health. Nevermind the fact that molds sporalate like crazy and spread like wild fire.
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I was just going to say it looks like one of the many species of aspergillus, but Arcane beat me to it. If anything, bury it in a flowerbed outdoors. The mycelium can often fight off molds outdoors, but not in a terrarium, especially one without sufficient ventilation. Drill bigger holes or prop the corner of the lid open or something. RR
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