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InvisibleChiefGreenLeaf
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I got arrested for bud, really need some help
    #10606492 - 07/01/09 10:07 PM (14 years, 10 months ago)

so this last sunday me and my brother decided to go toke up. it was already pretty late, but some of his friends (he's two years younger) were still up and said they had some dank.

we sneak out of the house as my mom doesn't like me being out late with him. anyway, I pick everybody up and we go to this usual spot to smoke. it is an empty parking lot tucked away fro the main road. we where invisible. so we are just chillin. we are talking about the usual stuff, health, philosophy, qigong. listened to some bach. smoked a blunt and then decided to bounce.

everything is cool up until we are almost to this kids neighborhood, a cop pulls up on the main road next to us. I just keep going and 20 yards later make a right into this neighborhood. the cop follows but doesn't put on his lights. at that point everybody starts to freak. I stop the car and tell this kid to get out here, it's a 1 min walk from his house. he is scarred to get out so I start to get out of the car. i was going to go talk to the cop before he got out of his car so he wouldn't get up to the window and smell bud. well i open the door and step out only to find he has already gotten out of his car. this is where shit gets fucked up...

immediately upon seeing me he tackles me and says I am resisting. he cuffs me and throws me in the back of his car. i am asking if i am under arrest and if so what for. keep in mind that he never put on his lights, so I figured stepping out of the car was OK. he says that i wasn't under arrest and "this is just how this works". after locking me in his car he goes to my car opens the door and starts searching the car. he tells everybody to get out and then frisks them, puts them in cuffs. he finds two grams of bud. at least six cop cars show up. they let everyone else go and arrest me because i was "resisting" and they had proof it was my weed.

the next day i get out of jail at 2 o clock. i am supposed to report back in a week with $320. the whole process was bullshit. my rights were obviously violated, but i don't have any money to fight this. it is a criminal offense in my state so i had to go to county and shit.

i just don't know what to do. it has really fucked up everything i had going for me. my family was helping me pay for a water ionizer to help me get better (I've been battling some chronic sickness) now that is gone, just like that, poof.

I feel really depressed, alone, irritated. the whole process seems fucking pointless. i really want to stab the fucking cop in the neck and then shoot myself. i don't know what to do. i can't sleep or eat and my chest feels like it about to explode.

this whole experience made me directly aware that our penal system is in no way supportive of recovery. they just want your money. i already knew it was fucked up somewhat, but i had no idea it was to this extent.

what do i do? i don't really know the point of this thread, but maybe someone else can relate? I just need some support.

some background info....
i have been very sick and struggling with depression as a result. i was coming to a point where i would get the therapies that would really heal me on a deep level. i know that giving up bud for a couple months would make these therapies more effective. this was the last time i would be out of my house smoking. it was like a final meal before starting a fast. i was going to enjoy it, but i was excited to take a break and move on to a brighter future. i would have a replacement for the weed. now i have nothing.
ever since then i have been really depressed. help
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fuck this american empire. they will burn in hell.

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Re: I got arrested for bud, really need some help [Re: ChiefGreenLeaf]
    #10606633 - 07/01/09 10:31 PM (14 years, 10 months ago)

its true u got ur rights violated but the judge will believe the cop over you sry


if ur over 18 real below ,if ur younger than 18 QQ

i like to use this for speeding tickets maybe it will help

conflict of interest
1.am i entitled to a fair trial?
yes
2.can i get a fair trail if there is a conflict of interest?
no
3.who do u represent here?
basically the cop,pa,and the judge all know each other and they get paid by the same people welcome to the biggest legal scam there is
the gov. "PIMP" Society "PROSTITUTE"


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Re: I got arrested for bud, really need some help [Re: ChiefGreenLeaf]
    #10606640 - 07/01/09 10:31 PM (14 years, 10 months ago)

Thats rough, and I understand the frustration.  Don't let it drag you down though, you have to go through the bullshit and hopefully if they charged you with resisting they will drop it and you'll just have a possession charge with a plea.


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Re: I got arrested for bud, really need some help [Re: ChiefGreenLeaf]
    #10606814 - 07/01/09 10:58 PM (14 years, 10 months ago)

That sucks man. Wish you all the best with getting through it.

One bit of advice is to get character references to show the judge. Maybe you could ask a doctor or a family friend with a good job? If someone can vouch for you, this will help a lot.


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Re: I got arrested for bud, really need some help [Re: ChiefGreenLeaf]
    #10606941 - 07/01/09 11:23 PM (14 years, 10 months ago)

Sorry to hear that.  Try to think calm thoughts; relax.  It will pass in time.

Smoking in cars is probably one of the most unsafe drug habits you can have, but I'm sure you've realized this.


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Re: I got arrested for bud, really need some help [Re: deCypher]
    #10607038 - 07/01/09 11:43 PM (14 years, 10 months ago)

you should try posting this in security and safety as well. there might be some people who can give you decent legal advice, considering you werent actually pulled over or warned in any way that an arrest was coming. this would be on the officers dash camera, and supporting evidence for your case, along with the several witnesses in your car.

you should talk to a lawyer or public defender, whatever kind of free help you can get to better understand your options. unfortunately this is going to cost money, id say fuckit and buy that thing anyways, maybe you can convince the court you need it out of medical necessity. but I have very little understanding of the way the court system works. money is usually your savior :frown:


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InvisibleChiefGreenLeaf
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Re: I got arrested for bud, really need some help [Re: Mickalopagus]
    #10608616 - 07/02/09 08:38 AM (14 years, 10 months ago)

that's a good idea, mods could you move this to security and safety?

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Re: I got arrested for bud, really need some help [Re: ChiefGreenLeaf]
    #10608793 - 07/02/09 09:32 AM (14 years, 10 months ago)

Go see a lawyer, and ask him to request the on-dash video. If it shows you stop the car and get out calmly, without running, and without his lights flashing, then you will likely get an apology.

Otherwise, if you roll over, you will get a typical mj charge, have to do class and community service.

Remember, you're not a bad person, you just made a bad choice. Don't fuck yourself over it.

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Re: I got arrested for bud, really need some help [Re: Fraggin]
    #10609349 - 07/02/09 11:48 AM (14 years, 10 months ago)

motion to supress. Hope you get to feeling better man.


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Re: I got arrested for bud, really need some help [Re: Fraggin]
    #10609454 - 07/02/09 12:07 PM (14 years, 10 months ago)

Quote:

Fraggin said:
Go see a lawyer, and ask him to request the on-dash video. If it shows you stop the car and get out calmly, without running, and without his lights flashing, then you will likely get an apology.

Otherwise, if you roll over, you will get a typical mj charge, have to do class and community service.

Remember, you're not a bad person, you just made a bad choice. Don't fuck yourself over it.





Q.F.T.

The dash camera will show the truth of the matter.

A good lawyer will point out that you were not under arrest and that the cop straight tackled you (that is assault) and that your fourth Amendment rights were violated.

You should get this bullshit thrown out and press charges on the cop for assault and battery.

GODDAMNIT CONTACT FUCKING http://norml.org/ and hand them their asses.


NEVER SAY ANYTHING TO COPS WHEN THEY ARE FUCKING WITH YOU.

Assert your right to remain silent and don't tell them shit.


Please post back here when you get the chance.


Also, I don't see how they could prove the 2 grams were yours.

WHY THE FUCK DID SOMEONE NOT EAT THE 2 GRAMS AND PLEASE DON'T EVER DRIVE AND SMOKE AGAIN.






It's a fucking warzone out there buddy.  Be fucking tactical with your movements never have anything in the open, never smoke in cars, have your shit vacuum sealed, and always assert your fourth amendment rights.



One Last Thing.



ALL OF YOU SHOULD BE CARRYING COPIES OF THE CONSTITUTION.

There is a website where you can buy it in bulk for like 20 USD for a thousand of them.

I will post that here so YOU FUCKERS CAN BUY THEM (GIVE THEM TO ALL YOUR FUCKING FREINDS) AND STOP BEING STEREOTYPICAL DRUG USERS WHO DON'T KNOW HOW TO STAND UP FOR THEIR RIGHTS.

DAMN IT this is fucking America and if you fuckers start standing up for the Constitution IT WILL START LOOKING LIKE AMERICA AGAIN!

Please hit up the links on my sig so you can be real mother-fucking Americans!


Don't Fucking Disappoint Murray N. Rothbard fuckers!

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InvisibleChiefGreenLeaf
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Re: I got arrested for bud, really need some help [Re: Mr.Al]
    #10609775 - 07/02/09 01:15 PM (14 years, 10 months ago)

that's the thing, I know my rights. I was exiting my car so he wouldn't have probab;e cause (the smell). I was prepared to tell him I DO NOT consent to a search. but when you get tackled and cuffed there wasn't much I could do.

after being booked he sat me down and said, "ur lucky you didn't get ur ass beat" wtf?

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Re: I got arrested for bud, really need some help [Re: ChiefGreenLeaf]
    #10611205 - 07/02/09 05:49 PM (14 years, 10 months ago)

Like Fraggin said, all that should be on the dash camera of the cop cruiser.  They have no way of proving that 2 grams was yours.  I don't THINK they established probable cause in the search of your car.  That means to me that your Fourth Amendment rights were violated and you were assaulted on camera by a police officer. 

Have you contacted Norml yet?

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InvisibleChiefGreenLeaf
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Re: I got arrested for bud, really need some help [Re: Mr.Al]
    #10612166 - 07/02/09 09:15 PM (14 years, 10 months ago)

i got the info for a lawyer who is a norml member. they were closed when i tried to call, so i will just wait till tomorrow.

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Re: I got arrested for bud, really need some help [Re: ChiefGreenLeaf]
    #10612373 - 07/02/09 10:01 PM (14 years, 10 months ago)

Good luck to you man.
Cops are societies enemy and I would love to hear that you managed to beat a corrupt system. Lets just hope they actually look at the dash cam video (and that nothing has "happened" to the dash cam video...).


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Re: I got arrested for bud, really need some help [Re: eligal]
    #10614560 - 07/03/09 08:11 AM (14 years, 10 months ago)

It would be awesome to see a cop perjur (sp?) himself in court.  I don't see how he could have been "resisting arrest" if the tape shows him being tackled.

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Re: I got arrested for bud, really need some help [Re: bumpn]
    #10614590 - 07/03/09 08:26 AM (14 years, 10 months ago)

Quote:

bumpn said:
the gov. "PIMP" Society "PROSTITUTE"



Amen brother! We are one. We are whores.

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Re: I got arrested for bud, really need some help (moved) [Re: ChiefGreenLeaf]
    #10615291 - 07/03/09 11:16 AM (14 years, 10 months ago)

This thread was moved from Physical and Mental Well-Being.

Reason:
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Re: I got arrested for bud, really need some help [Re: ChiefGreenLeaf]
    #10618231 - 07/03/09 10:17 PM (14 years, 10 months ago)

Quote:

that's the thing, I know my rights. I was exiting my car so he wouldn't have probab;e cause (the smell).




Its not a good idea to get out of the car and approach the cops.  Only guilty people do that.

There is a good chance you will be able to beat this in court, depending on how the arrest report was written.

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Re: I got arrested for bud, really need some help [Re: Mr.Al]
    #10618387 - 07/03/09 11:08 PM (14 years, 10 months ago)

I agree with allan.  Get an attorney, a public defender, whatever. 


Good news: recently the law on searches of cars when somebody was arrested was clarified a bit- in your favor.  This may be relevant to your case depending on what exactly the cop charges as his reason to search the car. 


Bad news: you were smoking in a car.  Worst thing to do, ever.  You have no fourth amendment rights, pretty much, if he claims the search was to discover further evidence of drugs that he allready had cause to believe existed.


Only if he's honest and says he didn't have probable cause to believe marijuana was in teh car, or is honest about why he had such cause, can you escape, it seems.  If he just makes shit up to justify the search (using the info he obtained during the search to formulate his evidence for prior to the search) you loose.



Bitch about the excessive force, get the tape, and see if it is at all supportive of you.  If so, perhaps they'll agree to work shit out.  I got out of some trouble due to a cop tackling me and pulling a gun on me, for no reason.  I was a juvenile, and he didn't know this, and this created a bit of a problem for him.

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Re: I got arrested for bud, really need some help [Re: deCypher]
    #10620140 - 07/04/09 10:32 AM (14 years, 10 months ago)

Quote:

deCypher said:
Sorry to hear that.  Try to think calm thoughts; relax.  It will pass in time.

Smoking in cars is probably one of the most unsafe drug habits you can have, but I'm sure you've realized this.





I think pushing off while driving, (:syringe:, using the seat belt to tie), and maybe smoking crack or meth from a stem while driving are just about THE shadiest administration-related drug activities one can participate in. Until you tie off on a crowded highway only to find a police on your left and a semi on your right you don't know shady driving; with the possible exception of road sex.

But yeah, this is like telling people about an operation, a VERY quick way to get yourself in a bit of a pickled horse nipple.




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