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OfflinePooGrower
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PF CAKES NOT COLONIZING? How do i make them?
    #1060572 - 11/17/02 08:22 PM (14 years, 3 months ago)

Im a first time grower using pf tek with brown rice and vermiculate. I used mazatapec mexican strain. the room temp was 70 and dropped once to 60 for 1 DAY ive kept them in the dark i now have them in a make shift incubator at 83 degrees the past 2 DAYS its now been 10 DAYS TOTAL and there is no sign of growth. Do you think it is the amount of water countent? Also theres a few white chunks the size of the vermiculate in them i think its just the brown rice powder not broken up the wouldnt it be brown. i dont know im confussed PLEASE HELP ANY SUGGESTION IS A GOOD ONE
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Re: PF CAKES NOT COLONIZING? How do i make them? [Re: PooGrower]
    #1060590 - 11/17/02 08:35 PM (14 years, 3 months ago)

wait.


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Re: PF CAKES NOT COLONIZING? How do i make them? [Re: PooGrower]
    #1060655 - 11/17/02 09:02 PM (14 years, 3 months ago)

It took 20 days or more for my first cake to colonize. So it could be that u dont have any problems. However it be that you ordered unviable spores or didint shake your syringes before innoculation. The cold temp for a day shouldnt be a factor. How much syringe liquid did u use per jar? Can u see any visible liquid droplets in the jar? If not u might try loosening the lid just a touch. And easy with those high temps mid 7o's and patience along with good sterile substrates and good syringes are the key..................................Good LUCK


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Re: PF CAKES NOT COLONIZING? How do i make them? [Re: MOE.shrooms]
    #1060756 - 11/17/02 09:38 PM (14 years, 3 months ago)

your answer would be if you fully did the pf tek word for word?? too much water ? how much did you put in?


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Re: PF CAKES NOT COLONIZING? How do i make them? [Re: MOE.shrooms]
    #1060768 - 11/17/02 09:41 PM (14 years, 3 months ago)

i ordered them from sporeworks.com and stuck them in the jar that day
and i dont see any of the liquid on the cake from injection.


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Re: PF CAKES NOT COLONIZING? How do i make them? [Re: PooGrower]
    #1060777 - 11/17/02 09:46 PM (14 years, 3 months ago)

I DID IT WORD FOR WORD 100% careful HERE ARE THE DIRECTIONS: For each 1/2 pint jar mix 2/3 cup vermiculite and 1/4 cup brown rice flour in a mixing bowl. Adaptation-23 When these ingredients are well mixed, add 1/4 cup of water for each 1/2 pint jar you plan to prepare.


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Re: PF CAKES NOT COLONIZING? How do i make them? [Re: PooGrower]
    #1060913 - 11/17/02 10:50 PM (14 years, 3 months ago)

I would say if you did the PF tek word for word it probably isn't too much water but not enough water. If you read the PF tek method closely they will tell you this can be a problem. They say if you see little or no growth that is possibly the reason. So try injecting a bit of water may 5-10cc.


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Re: PF CAKES NOT COLONIZING? How do i make them? [Re: MOE.shrooms]
    #1060922 - 11/17/02 10:56 PM (14 years, 3 months ago)

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And easy with those high temps mid 7o's and patience




He's trying to incubate, not fruit. He should keep the incubator as close to 85 degrees as he can for optimum colonization.



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Re: PF CAKES NOT COLONIZING? How do i make them? [Re: PooGrower]
    #1061046 - 11/17/02 11:53 PM (14 years, 3 months ago)

you have to sing to them.


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Re: PF CAKES NOT COLONIZING? How do i make them? [Re: MsPacMan]
    #1061252 - 11/18/02 01:28 AM (14 years, 3 months ago)

Here is what I noticed w/ the mazatapec strain... I inoculated 18 jars, 9 b+ 9 mazatapec... the b+'s started to colonize real fast, but the mazatapec's took a little longer to get going... and thats the same for fruiting.. the strain is generally slow to colonize and to fruit.. only advice I can give is to just be patient  :grin:


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Re: PF CAKES NOT COLONIZING? How do i make them? [Re: Fred Garvin]
    #1061892 - 11/18/02 10:03 AM (14 years, 3 months ago)

Is that so? Best temp for colinization is mid 80's? Damn I need to do my homework. Im colonizing my mycobag at 75 and its coming along nicely.....Are u saying I can speed it up and not hurt it by going up to low 8o's?


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Re: PF CAKES NOT COLONIZING? How do i make them? [Re: MOE.shrooms]
    #1061900 - 11/18/02 10:08 AM (14 years, 3 months ago)



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Re: PF CAKES NOT COLONIZING? How do i make them? [Re: PooGrower]
    #1061903 - 11/18/02 10:10 AM (14 years, 3 months ago)

Do not inject any water into your jars. Do not loosen the lids. If you followed the tek then these steps are unnecssary and will only increase your contam risk.

Germination can take up to 10 days even under ideal conditions and your jars have been cold. Like Fred said, incubate them as near to 85F as you can and WAIT.


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Re: PF CAKES NOT COLONIZING? How do i make them? [Re: Bilge]
    #1062188 - 11/18/02 12:22 PM (14 years, 3 months ago)

Bilge,
Thank you for your reply. The two times you have replied to my posts you have been very helpful and insightful. I assume you have been at this for a while. I am a fisrt tiime grower. I bought a pre-sterlized grow bag from the spore bank.com. I thought it was about 90% colonized and I read a post reply that said break up the colonized substrate through the bag to see if it is colonizied on the inside and I did. It was only colonized on the outside however I put it back in the closet and cranked up the heat and its now coming along very well. I really want to case it to increase my yield but I dont want to jepordize getting no yield at all. How hard is it to make a successful casing for a first timer. I already know how, im just afraid it wont work then I wont have jack shit.......Just wondering what u think...sorry if this is a bother.


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Re: PF CAKES NOT COLONIZING? How do i make them? [Re: MOE.shrooms]
    #1062225 - 11/18/02 12:46 PM (14 years, 3 months ago)

i think my post was very helpful as well, but no thanks needed.


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Re: PF CAKES NOT COLONIZING? How do i make them? [Re: MsPacMan]
    #1062253 - 11/18/02 12:55 PM (14 years, 3 months ago)

I have had some problem with spores from sporeworks, I recemmond the little guy spores,, Excellent results everytime I order form there.


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Re: PF CAKES NOT COLONIZING? How do i make them? [Re: PooGrower]
    #1062263 - 11/18/02 12:57 PM (14 years, 3 months ago)

BTW- PooGrower, i am interested in growing some poo, how might one do that?


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Re: PF CAKES NOT COLONIZING? How do i make them? [Re: MsPacMan]
    #1062466 - 11/18/02 02:03 PM (14 years, 3 months ago)

ms pac man. all you have to do is some pasturizing techniques with the poo and thats about it. try checking out some bulk substrate teks, they always have alot of information about manure and the proper way to pasturize it.


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Re: PF CAKES NOT COLONIZING? How do i make them? [Re: MsPacMan]
    #1063225 - 11/18/02 05:45 PM (14 years, 3 months ago)

o come on have some............THANKS


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