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JMath
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How do these look? (first grow)
#10605687 - 07/01/09 07:52 PM (15 years, 6 months ago) |
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Strange thing is, this is the only jar out of 10 that has any substantial growth, but it's only been a week.
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Re: How do these look? (first grow) [Re: JMath]
#10605696 - 07/01/09 07:53 PM (15 years, 6 months ago) |
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what kind of tape is that?
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Re: How do these look? (first grow) [Re: JMath]
#10605709 - 07/01/09 07:56 PM (15 years, 6 months ago) |
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that one looks like its starting fine. thats brf pf cakes right? is the holes on top covered? also, sometimes those shoulderless jars make life miserable when trying to get a colonized cake out of them.
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JMath
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Re: How do these look? (first grow) [Re: kaneabel]
#10605736 - 07/01/09 08:00 PM (15 years, 6 months ago) |
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masking. some kind of heavy duty painters tape from lowe's. I took it off yesterday though and raised the temp to about 80 to see if I could get faster growth
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Re: How do these look? (first grow) [Re: kaneabel]
#10605741 - 07/01/09 08:01 PM (15 years, 6 months ago) |
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Looks like masking tape to me, in which case your jars aren't getting any gas exchange, which would cause them to colonize slowly, or not at all. As your attorney, I advise you to remove the tape from those jars to let some oxygen in. Your dry verm layer should keep any contams at bay.
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Re: How do these look? (first grow) [Re: JMath]
#10605744 - 07/01/09 08:02 PM (15 years, 6 months ago) |
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Now that you've taken it off, expect growth but be patient. I f-ed up and done that once and it was a contributor to the grow failing. It is good tape to use when PC'ing though, so don't throw it away.
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Re: How do these look? (first grow) [Re: kaneabel]
#10605912 - 07/01/09 08:29 PM (15 years, 6 months ago) |
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i left masking tape on my first set of jars and it colonized just fine, havent done it since but just letting u know my experience.
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Re: How do these look? (first grow) [Re: JMath]
#10605939 - 07/01/09 08:32 PM (15 years, 6 months ago) |
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JMath said: raised the temp to about 80 to see if I could get faster growth
While you're at it, go ahead and put up a sign near the jars that says, "come on in bacteria, I got just the place for you to flourish, right here, in these jars"
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Re: How do these look? (first grow) [Re: Stealthgrower]
#10606204 - 07/01/09 09:17 PM (15 years, 6 months ago) |
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Stealthgrower said:
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JMath said: raised the temp to about 80 to see if I could get faster growth
While you're at it, go ahead and put up a sign near the jars that says, "come on in bacteria, I got just the place for you to flourish, right here, in these jars"
ha, yeha, 80 is too high. 70-75
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Re: How do these look? (first grow) [Re: ylibniquah]
#10606777 - 07/01/09 10:53 PM (15 years, 6 months ago) |
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Isn’t 85-86 is ideal for incubation or is it lower because of heat generated within the jars? Would temps in the 80's be more ideal for cultures?
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Re: How do these look? (first grow) [Re: chitown]
#10606810 - 07/01/09 10:57 PM (15 years, 6 months ago) |
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chitown said: i left masking tape on my first set of jars and it colonized just fine, havent done it since but just letting u know my experience.
I always keep the tape on my jars unless I notice that colonization is taking too long. I've never had a problem.
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Re: How do these look? (first grow) [Re: nexus1946]
#10606819 - 07/01/09 10:59 PM (15 years, 6 months ago) |
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nexus1946 said: Isn�t 85-86 is ideal for incubation or is it lower because of heat generated within the jars? Would temps in the 80's be more ideal for cultures?
The worst a cooler temp can really do is slow growth a bit. The worst a warmer temp. can do is provide a very hospitable environment for several common contaminates. You pick. For best results, keep jars in a room OUTSIDE OF A HEATED INCUBATOR, that is unless you live in a garage in Canada. Room temperature is ideal for colonizing jars. That is the rule of thumb. Yes they produce their own heat.
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Re: How do these look? (first grow) [Re: JMath]
#10607300 - 07/02/09 12:44 AM (15 years, 6 months ago) |
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Well i'm not using an incubator but I could move the jars back to my 76° closet. It seems like more people are concerned with the tape than the temperature.
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Re: How do these look? (first grow) [Re: JMath]
#10607438 - 07/02/09 01:14 AM (15 years, 6 months ago) |
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The closet i keep mine in sits at 72 F and my cakes are almost at 100 percent after 2.5 weeks. 80 is very warm and very close to the temps contams thrive in.
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Re: How do these look? (first grow) [Re: Lostkeys]
#10607468 - 07/02/09 01:19 AM (15 years, 6 months ago) |
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Flowhoods are your friend, built one...
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Re: How do these look? (first grow) [Re: JMath]
#10607492 - 07/02/09 01:25 AM (15 years, 6 months ago) |
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alcohol wipe a tote and put jars in it.spray around n in it every few days with lysol if ur worried about contams. been colonizing rye in a 85-90 degree atic 4 the past 5 months like this with no contams. 78-83 is safe n fast. ur choice the lower u go the slower it goes the higher u get the more flyers ur putting up for unwanted bacteria.
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Re: How do these look? (first grow) [Re: nexus1946]
#10607761 - 07/02/09 02:25 AM (15 years, 6 months ago) |
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nexus1946 said: Isn�t 85-86 is ideal for incubation or is it lower because of heat generated within the jars? Would temps in the 80's be more ideal for cultures?
according to RR, the ideal temp for all stages of the cubensis life cycle is 70-75. doesnt matter if your doing cultures, grainspawn, colinizing or fruiting a substrate, or whatever. i would be more concerned with your temps, high temps can make contams more likely, not to mention making growth slower. I put a window unit AC in my room for temp control, and keeping it steady between 70-75 has increased my growth very noticbly from the speeds i got in another part of my house that was cool, but not really properly air conditioned.
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Re: How do these look? (first grow) [Re: JMath]
#10607798 - 07/02/09 02:33 AM (15 years, 6 months ago) |
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JMath said: Well i'm not using an incubator but I could move the jars back to my 76? closet. It seems like more people are concerned with the tape than the temperature.
To be honest, the tape is fine for now. The only thing a lack of air flow causes is stalled jars. They should start doing their thing just fine with the air that's in there, and continue on until at least 70% colonization or so. After that, you will need some gas exchange as the existing air will be mostly used up.
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Re: How do these look? (first grow) [Re: Stealthgrower]
#10608162 - 07/02/09 06:22 AM (15 years, 6 months ago) |
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my closets kept at 78 i got em in a shoe box for 11 days now mist a alcohol/oust mix once a day there doing fine the Mycelium nock up spots are starting to touch each other i do live in a clean house tho so dunno no contains yet tape is off maybe some spore tape instead
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JMath
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Re: How do these look? (first grow) [Re: bumpn]
#10610435 - 07/02/09 03:21 PM (15 years, 6 months ago) |
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I have them back to 76 degrees and tape is off. But does anyone have any idea why I would see really good growth in only one jar and absolutely nothing in the other nine jars except for a tiny spot in one? They have all been kept in the same conditions and tape was removed at the same time. I do know for a fact that the jar that is doing well was the first one I knocked up with the syringe (all were done in the same sitting, it was just the first one).
Could the alcohol flame kill the spores if the body of the syringe got too close? I can't think of anything else.
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