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What do you use gypsum for?
    #10605341 - 07/01/09 06:27 PM (14 years, 10 months ago)

What do you personally use gypsum for?
What do *you* use gypsum for?
You may choose many


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Re: What do you use gypsum for? [Re: Doc_T]
    #10605394 - 07/01/09 06:39 PM (14 years, 10 months ago)

I use it in casing material-

per pint jar...
1 cup peat moss
1 tsp hydrated lime
1 tbsp gypsum
1 cup water
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Re: What do you use gypsum for? [Re: chillywilly419]
    #10605409 - 07/01/09 06:42 PM (14 years, 10 months ago)

Argh! I can't go back and edit that into the poll!
Casing, hm? Just in the casing layer? Or in the bulk sub too?


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Re: What do you use gypsum for? [Re: Doc_T]
    #10605653 - 07/01/09 07:43 PM (14 years, 10 months ago)

Wtf is STAL?

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Re: What do you use gypsum for? [Re: CH HELL]
    #10605757 - 07/01/09 08:04 PM (14 years, 10 months ago)

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Re: What do you use gypsum for? [Re: Doc_T]
    #10605793 - 07/01/09 08:10 PM (14 years, 10 months ago)

I voted bulk sub, but it's only because I don't want to mess with casing.  Although the way my tubs are taking their sweet time and seemingly only pinning near the sides, I may soon be reconsidering.


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Re: What do you use gypsum for? [Re: Stealthgrower]
    #10608145 - 07/02/09 06:15 AM (14 years, 10 months ago)

Bulk subs seems to be the big winner so far-

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Re: What do you use gypsum for? [Re: Doc_T]
    #10608187 - 07/02/09 06:36 AM (14 years, 10 months ago)

Doc_t,

With all the answers I am wondering if anyone of them know what gypsum adds and why it is used. Other than some one added it to a recipe they are using. :lol:

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Re: What do you use gypsum for? [Re: Cyber]
    #10608457 - 07/02/09 07:46 AM (14 years, 10 months ago)

Grain soaking and bulk subs.

I also use it compressed between 2 sheets of paper.  Also use it in powder form.  Add water and spread it evenly between the sections of paper coated compressed gypsum.

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Re: What do you use gypsum for? [Re: Cyber]
    #10608462 - 07/02/09 07:47 AM (14 years, 10 months ago)

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Doc_t,

With all the answers I am wondering if anyone of them know what gypsum adds and why it is used. Other than some one added it to a recipe they are using. :lol:




It also shows they haven't yet discovered :google:
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Re: What do you use gypsum for? [Re: RogerRabbit]
    #10608485 - 07/02/09 07:52 AM (14 years, 10 months ago)

calcium sulfate dihydrate, used as a ph buffer right?

personally in casings, bulk sub


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Re: What do you use gypsum for? [Re: antimatt3r]
    #10608494 - 07/02/09 07:54 AM (14 years, 10 months ago)

Try again.  Gypsum doesn't adjust pH in a meaningful way.  That's what lime is used for.
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Re: What do you use gypsum for? [Re: RogerRabbit]
    #10608508 - 07/02/09 07:58 AM (14 years, 10 months ago)

it keeps the ph the same for longer i thought


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Re: What do you use gypsum for? [Re: antimatt3r]
    #10608513 - 07/02/09 08:00 AM (14 years, 10 months ago)

Phosphor gypsum
It’s hard to overestimate the role gypsum plays in the compost preparation process. Even though it’s used in relatively small amounts – about 60 kg for a ton of compost, gypsum plays a decision role in the formation of the compost’s structure and pH level. The pH level, in turn, determines the content of nitrogen in the compost. It’s a very important indicator for the nutrition of mushroom mycelium. The point is that the mushroom mycelium assimilates organic nitrogen, and can «eat up» the ammoniac one. But when the pH level is high, the ammoniac nitrogen can turn into free, gaseous ammonia which is a poison to mushroom mycelium. One of the most important indicators of compost is a complete absence of the ammonia odor. It’s best to use ordinary construction gypsum. Phosphor gypsum can be used, but it’s necessary to increase the amount of it applied. 40 kg of phosphor gypsum have to be applied to a ton of compost. Usually, the exact amount gypsum to be applied is determined by the quality of the raw materials.


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Re: What do you use gypsum for? [Re: antimatt3r]
    #10608546 - 07/02/09 08:12 AM (14 years, 10 months ago)

Correct.  Gypsum tends to hold the pH stable.  Regardless of how much you use, the pH will stay at around 6.9 or so.  With lime, you can raise the pH to 8 or so for casing layers.

The main benefit of gypsum in substrates it the addition of calcium and sulfur, both important to proper fruitbody formation.  When you see grows with skinny, poorly formed fruits that have no dry weight, it's a good bet the person neglected to use gypsum.
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Re: What do you use gypsum for? [Re: RogerRabbit]
    #10608551 - 07/02/09 08:15 AM (14 years, 10 months ago)

RR what processes or stages of preparation and growth do you recommend the addition of gypsum?


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Re: What do you use gypsum for? [Re: antimatt3r]
    #10608572 - 07/02/09 08:22 AM (14 years, 10 months ago)

All.

It helps to prevent sticking and clumping of grains during the spawn stage.

It helps with health and vigor of the mycelium during fruiting stage.
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Re: What do you use gypsum for? [Re: antimatt3r]
    #10608579 - 07/02/09 08:25 AM (14 years, 10 months ago)

thats what i meant by buffer on the initial post maybe i used the wrong word :-X


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Re: What do you use gypsum for? [Re: Doc_T]
    #10608598 - 07/02/09 08:31 AM (14 years, 10 months ago)

grain soak, it helps the grain shake after PCing


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Re: What do you use gypsum for? [Re: fungusfeller]
    #10608726 - 07/02/09 09:09 AM (14 years, 10 months ago)

I have 8 pints of wbs im about to spawn to coffee/coir/verm what ratio do you recommend using?


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Re: What do you use gypsum for? [Re: antimatt3r]
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Re: What do you use gypsum for? [Re: antimatt3r]
    #10614154 - 07/03/09 06:02 AM (14 years, 10 months ago)

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RR what processes or stages of preparation and growth do you recommend the addition of gypsum?




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All.




Which pretty much answers the question I was actually asking.

RR- not in agar? Or just haven't tried it yet?


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Re: What do you use gypsum for? [Re: Doc_T]
    #10614224 - 07/03/09 06:20 AM (14 years, 10 months ago)

how would it help out agar?


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Re: What do you use gypsum for? [Re: TacoHerder]
    #10614263 - 07/03/09 06:32 AM (14 years, 10 months ago)

Beats me, man. :justdontknow: That's what I'm trying to learn.


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Re: What do you use gypsum for? [Re: Doc_T]
    #10614309 - 07/03/09 06:44 AM (14 years, 10 months ago)

lol!! maybe RR will wake up soon and help us out... Im still at work. had to work from 6pm to 8am. 15 min left, YAY!


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Re: What do you use gypsum for? [Re: TacoHerder]
    #10614556 - 07/03/09 08:09 AM (14 years, 10 months ago)

Not in agar, but it wouldn't hurt I suppose.  We aren't trying to grow mushrooms on agar so it really isn't useful, nor do we have to worry about grains clumping.
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Re: What do you use gypsum for? [Re: RogerRabbit]
    #10614594 - 07/03/09 08:27 AM (14 years, 10 months ago)

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Re: What do you use gypsum for? [Re: Harlz]
    #10614615 - 07/03/09 08:33 AM (14 years, 10 months ago)

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i know ive been wondering the same thing haha
and i bet that trip was rather spiratual :P

but i use gypsum in just about everything use it in my pint jars for spawn and my bulk substrate and my casing layer :smile:


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Re: What do you use gypsum for? [Re: Doc_T]
    #10617858 - 07/03/09 08:36 PM (14 years, 10 months ago)

I would have voted but I use it for multiple steps.  Always use it in my grain soaks and in my bulk substrates. 

It does hold pH steady, but that doesn't mean it is a pH "buffer", I think there was some misunderstanding on that above. ~Pixie~


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Re: What do you use gypsum for? [Re: Psuper]
    #10617943 - 07/03/09 08:58 PM (14 years, 10 months ago)

It's multiple choice- select all that apply. :smile:


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Re: What do you use gypsum for? [Re: Doc_T]
    #10619074 - 07/04/09 03:30 AM (14 years, 10 months ago)

I thought that STAL stood for short take off and landing.  This made me think of that legend about the rocket car in Arizona, so I said "No" in the survey.  But now I realize that those were JATO rockets. (Jet Assist Take Off)

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Re: What do you use gypsum for? [Re: antimatt3r]
    #10619178 - 07/04/09 04:53 AM (14 years, 10 months ago)

If you ad gypsum to your PF tek it will make it colonize significantly faster IMO...

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Re: What do you use gypsum for? [Re: Macropinna]
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Am I the only person that sometimes feels not so fresh?  Or do you just apply "Janitor in a Drum" to the affected area?




I just added it on a hunch.


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Re: What do you use gypsum for? [Re: rizingfire]
    #10619320 - 07/04/09 06:19 AM (14 years, 10 months ago)

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If you ad gypsum to your PF tek it will make it colonize significantly faster IMO...



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Re: What do you use gypsum for? [Re: rizingfire]
    #12801753 - 06/25/10 10:14 AM (13 years, 10 months ago)

How much gypsum would I add to a pf tek when I am mixing the substrate?

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Re: What do you use gypsum for? [Re: screamthedream]
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I use a good big pinch- maybe a teaspoon. Per cup of brf.


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