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What poo is the best?
    #10603914 - 07/01/09 02:29 PM (15 years, 6 months ago)

In general, which animal poo benefits mushrooms the most?

Cow? horse? a combination of the 2? Guano?

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Re: What poo is the best? [Re: doornoblightbulb]
    #10603924 - 07/01/09 02:30 PM (15 years, 6 months ago)

depends on what strain yer growin and how yu prepare it

theres no best poo


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Re: What poo is the best? [Re: lacma50]
    #10603956 - 07/01/09 02:35 PM (15 years, 6 months ago)

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depends on what strain yer growin and how yu prepare it






no it doesn't. 

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Re: What poo is the best? [Re: lacma50]
    #10603957 - 07/01/09 02:35 PM (15 years, 6 months ago)

Lets say wild birdseed and golden teacher? If you had access to every type of known fecal matter, which would you use, or which combination would you use?

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Re: What poo is the best? [Re: doornoblightbulb]
    #10603968 - 07/01/09 02:37 PM (15 years, 6 months ago)

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Lets say wild birdseed and golden teacher? If you had access to every type of known fecal matter, which would you use, or which combination would you use?





Whatever I could find for free.  ~Pixie~


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Re: What poo is the best? [Re: Psuper]
    #10603973 - 07/01/09 02:37 PM (15 years, 6 months ago)

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depends on what strain yer growin and how yu prepare it






no it doesn't. 

Cubensis like composted manure from animals that eat grass. ~Pixie~




I know this, lets not turn this into the whole "can human poo grow shrooms??" argument.

Out of the generally accepted types of poo, cow, horse, rabbit, deer, moose, etc, which one is the best, or which combination is the best? (when hypothetically applied to WBS inoculated with golden teacher

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Re: What poo is the best? [Re: Psuper]
    #10603981 - 07/01/09 02:38 PM (15 years, 6 months ago)

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Lets say wild birdseed and golden teacher? If you had access to every type of known fecal matter, which would you use, or which combination would you use?





Whatever I could find for free.  ~Pixie~




Ok... Lets say you're in my situation, and have to buy poo. From a store. Which offers many types of poo...

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Re: What poo is the best? [Re: doornoblightbulb]
    #10604004 - 07/01/09 02:41 PM (15 years, 6 months ago)

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Lets say wild birdseed and golden teacher? If you had access to every type of known fecal matter, which would you use, or which combination would you use?




if you put it that way i would go with unicorn shit.


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Re: What poo is the best? [Re: Psuper]
    #10604018 - 07/01/09 02:44 PM (15 years, 6 months ago)

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depends on what strain yer growin and how yu prepare it






no it doesn't. 

Cubensis like composted manure from animals that eat grass. ~Pixie~




Whn did he say he was growin cubensis, some ways of preperation wash out nutrients and in my experience, horses are more picky about the grass they eat compared to cows and not all animals that just "eat grass" can be used because their stomach acids are too strong


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Re: What poo is the best? [Re: doornoblightbulb]
    #10604026 - 07/01/09 02:46 PM (15 years, 6 months ago)

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Lets say wild birdseed and golden teacher? If you had access to every type of known fecal matter, which would you use, or which combination would you use?





Whatever I could find for free.  ~Pixie~




Ok... Lets say you're in my situation, and have to buy poo. From a store. Which offers many types of poo...




unicorn shit fo sho!!!
lol jk
if you wanna buy from a store ask any local farms in your area if yu can take/buy some of their manure off their hands for a small garden yu have out back


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Re: What poo is the best? [Re: lacma50]
    #10604076 - 07/01/09 02:55 PM (15 years, 6 months ago)

fuckin hilarious, respect.

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Re: What poo is the best? [Re: PaulStamets]
    #10604140 - 07/01/09 03:03 PM (15 years, 6 months ago)

I vote human


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Re: What poo is the best? [Re: medsn]
    #10604167 - 07/01/09 03:08 PM (15 years, 6 months ago)

Go for horse manure over cow manure... or mix some of the two together- more horse than cow. Straight cow manure is super digested; horse manure is less so. Horse manure seems to have a more light airy texture. Mix aged horse manure with straw for best effect.


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Re: What poo is the best? [Re: skd5004]
    #10604193 - 07/01/09 03:14 PM (15 years, 6 months ago)

So long as its leached, aged and dried, use whatever is free and easily had.
There are so many variables in mycology with the standards changing as we learn more and more.
Use whats free and use it with a combination of other additives. Coffee, straw, coir, gypsum, verm, worm castings, compost etc.

The 'search' feature will yield all your answers and you'll learn a lot from reading through the posts. Check the archive too.

Above all, use whats freeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee!


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Re: What poo is the best? [Re: medsn]
    #10604206 - 07/01/09 03:16 PM (15 years, 6 months ago)

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So long as its leached, aged and dried, use whatever is free and easily had.
There are so many variables in mycology with the standards changing as we learn more and more.
Use whats free and use it with a combination of other additives. Coffee, straw, coir, gypsum, verm, worm castings, compost etc.

The 'search' feature will yield all your answers and you'll learn a lot from reading through the posts. Check the archive too.

Above all, use whats freeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee!



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Re: What poo is the best? [Re: lacma50]
    #10604716 - 07/01/09 04:32 PM (15 years, 6 months ago)

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lacma50 said:
depends on what strain yer growin and how yu prepare it






no it doesn't. 

Cubensis like composted manure from animals that eat grass. ~Pixie~




Whn did he say he was growin cubensis, some ways of preperation wash out nutrients and in my experience, horses are more picky about the grass they eat compared to cows and not all animals that just "eat grass" can be used because their stomach acids are too strong




You're mixing up the terms "strain" and "species" in your statements.  It is safe to assume that new posters in this particular forum are referring to cubensis in their questions. 

Which animals are you referring to? ~Pixie~


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Re: What poo is the best? [Re: Psuper]
    #10604744 - 07/01/09 04:37 PM (15 years, 6 months ago)

I was going to say 'elephant', but I'll take 'unicorn' instead, please.

I keep wanting somebody to succeed w/ rabbit poo.


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Re: What poo is the best? [Re: Psuper]
    #10604778 - 07/01/09 04:42 PM (15 years, 6 months ago)

donkey poo doesnt work well
had some cakes made of donkey poo and there were only 2 flushes and the fruits were small


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Re: What poo is the best? [Re: Doc_T]
    #10604782 - 07/01/09 04:43 PM (15 years, 6 months ago)

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I was going to say 'elephant', but I'll take 'unicorn' instead, please.

I keep wanting somebody to succeed w/ rabbit poo.




rabbit poo wuld prolly be a bitch to collect lol


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Re: What poo is the best? [Re: lacma50]
    #10604790 - 07/01/09 04:44 PM (15 years, 6 months ago)

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I was going to say 'elephant', but I'll take 'unicorn' instead, please.

I keep wanting somebody to succeed w/ rabbit poo.




rabbit poo wuld prolly be a bitch to collect lol




:rolleyes: from domesticated rabbits. Not picking up berries in the field.


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Re: What poo is the best? [Re: Doc_T]
    #10604809 - 07/01/09 04:49 PM (15 years, 6 months ago)

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I was going to say 'elephant', but I'll take 'unicorn' instead, please.

I keep wanting somebody to succeed w/ rabbit poo.




rabbit poo wuld prolly be a bitch to collect lol




:rolleyes: from domesticated rabbits. Not picking up berries in the field.




yea but yud have to get so much!


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Re: What poo is the best? [Re: lacma50]
    #10604823 - 07/01/09 04:51 PM (15 years, 6 months ago)

Aha- not if it grows giant, super potent mushrooms! :mushroomgrow::mushroom2:


Really, I figure whatever a rabbit poops out in a week would be a nice additive to a monotub. But you'd have to pasteurize it or something.


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Re: What poo is the best? [Re: Doc_T]
    #10604834 - 07/01/09 04:54 PM (15 years, 6 months ago)

if i ever get a rabbit ill post up the results lol
a rabbit poo bulk grow...


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Re: What poo is the best? [Re: Doc_T]
    #10604835 - 07/01/09 04:54 PM (15 years, 6 months ago)

Can't you put it in a container and then microwave it to "pasteurize"?

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Re: What poo is the best? [Re: kaneabel]
    #10604840 - 07/01/09 04:55 PM (15 years, 6 months ago)

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Can't you put it in a container and then microwave it to "pasteurize"?




i prefer this..
http://www.shroomery.org/8393/Oven-Bag-Pasteurization-Pictorial


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    #10604851 - 07/01/09 04:58 PM (15 years, 6 months ago)

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Can't you put it in a container and then microwave it to "pasteurize"?




No.


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Re: What poo is the best? [Re: Doc_T]
    #10605682 - 07/01/09 07:50 PM (15 years, 6 months ago)

K, so I'm going to use either straight horse poo, or a combination of horse and cow poo, with the majority of the combo being horse poo. That sound good Doc?

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Re: What poo is the best? [Re: doornoblightbulb]
    #10605731 - 07/01/09 08:00 PM (15 years, 6 months ago)

Well, I guess it is going to have to do if you can't get the unicorn poo.

Seriously, I don't know- I don't use it. I just tried earthworm poo for the first time, it's too early to tell how it's going. And gypsum!


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Re: What poo is the best? [Re: doornoblightbulb]
    #10605784 - 07/01/09 08:09 PM (15 years, 6 months ago)

If you are able to find good quality manure, it sounds like you are on your way. Try to find manure that has been aged so that you won't have to leach the ammonia/ urine out of it. It should be nice and light colored like this:


A horse farmer gave me this manure to use as fertilizer in my organic vegetable garden. Stuff that smells like urine/ ammonia will need extra processing to be usable for your purposes!
If possible definitely go out and collect your own... Look up a horse farm in the phone book and go on a road trip... Just fill up tubs or lawn and garden bags.


See if you can find any straw to add to the horse poo/ other poo mix... helps to speed up colonization times. They usually sell bales at Agway or some other agricultural store- you want it to be golden in color, not green like hay is.


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Re: What poo is the best? [Re: skd5004]
    #10605870 - 07/01/09 08:22 PM (15 years, 6 months ago)

I've been wondering this a bit myself, and wanting to try goat/sheep/llama manure.  Also, there's a commercial rabbitry near me, and I can probably get vast amounts of rabbit poo whenever I want.  It's on my list of things to try in the near future anyway.


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Re: What poo is the best? [Re: Doc_T]
    #10605973 - 07/01/09 08:37 PM (15 years, 6 months ago)

Absolutely 100% gotta be horse poo... so i've heard.

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Re: What poo is the best? [Re: eviscerated]
    #10605982 - 07/01/09 08:38 PM (15 years, 6 months ago)

I might go out and get a rabbit just for the poo lol. And to see my beagle react to it. That would be priceless.

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Re: What poo is the best? [Re: lacma50]
    #10606025 - 07/01/09 08:44 PM (15 years, 6 months ago)

Duckbilled Platypus poo is best.  Everyone knows that, duh......
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Re: What poo is the best? [Re: moldem]
    #10606031 - 07/01/09 08:44 PM (15 years, 6 months ago)

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Absolutely 100% gotta be horse poo... so i've heard.




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